c2c Drone alien text deceiper

Originally posted by hiii_98
excellent post and i'm surpised more people have not looked into this angle. Isaac claims the font is more of a coding diagram more than an actual technical language. A sort of hardware/software coding.

Yes, thats what I mean. The language is more like a programming language.
Another guess would be that these are messages for us, in case we (or any other race) captures these drone. They must have described its origin and who they are and from where it came etc etc in as primitive way as possible. They wrote it down all over their machine. Just like we did with the Pioneer spacecraft.

But I lean more towards programming language theory, it reminds me of Tibetan bells. The monks write down their mantras on the wheels and spin them, its called Mani wheels, something like that.


www.dharma-haven.org...

I'm also surprised that no one else is trying to break its code.
Edit: Tibetan font looks interesting ...
salrc.uchicago.edu...



[edit on 3/7/2007 by rocksolidbrain]

[edit on 3/7/2007 by rocksolidbrain]

Tibetan font looks interesting ...

sure does but far from a match

also i think that post by the previous user was interesting which showed similarities between the alien skematics and Nicola Tesla and crop circles. I've always been of the opinion Telsa had some extraterrestrial influence in his concepts. Notice how the lines with the circles (bottom right) are almost an exact match to Isaac's papers...







[edit on 3-7-2007 by hiii_98]

If this is a programming/coding system I think i can appreciate it. Coding always seemed like a logic and math based system (right brain?) whereas i have always had an aptitude for creative and imaginative techniques and if this is a "alien coding system" I think its beautiful in regards to how it dictates and interprets the commands.


[edit on 3-7-2007 by hiii_98]

As many others have said, it's most likely butchered katakana. I made this example to show you that you can make a lot of the characters just by flipping and duplicating them.

I don't have any custom Japanese fonts installed, so it doesn't look exactly like the original ones. It's pretty close, though. I also had a Star Wars font installed that resembles some of the other characters in the diagrams. I don't remember where I got it, but it's called "trade federation".

Originally posted by Farnswoth
As many others have said, it's most likely butchered katakana. I made this example to show you that you can make a lot of the characters just by flipping and duplicating them.

Nicely shown. Case closed.

Case closed??? By Whom?

This case is not at all closed. Not by a long shot. You can "flip, turn, invert, and mirror" any number of selected characters from a variety of fonts, both real and fictional, and force a few characters to kinda-sorta resemble the drone font.

Interesting "find" perhaps. Amusing even. But case-closing it is not.

If you want to close the case on this "evidence", kindly post a translation for the rest of us not so enlightened.

Originally posted by Outrageo
If you want to close the case on this "evidence", kindly post a translation for the rest of us not so enlightened.

I wish I could
I already posted a very long analysis of the diagrams on previous page. The diagrams are interesting and fit the description of "symbols running the machine", but when the symbols themselves are derived from an earthly language by simple flipping/mirroring then its all fake.

Yes, thanks Rock, I had read through your posts. Your diagrams analysis was thorough and well done (though I might not agree with the conclusion you've drawn). You've put some thought and effort into it - nice work.

What I was referring to (for the umpteenth time) is that we've had a lot of people come on to one of the many Drone threads (most of whom didn't want to be bothered with reading the research of others before them), and claiming that they "know" the drone font is Japanese Katakana, or a modified Klingon, or altered Enochian, etc. but NOBODY can make the 1-to-1 correlation to ANY font/language or come up with even a very rudimentary translation.

I've done many weeks of research on this specific topic already and have conferred with professional linguist experts from some of the top universities around the world. NONE of these experts is buying the connection to ANY Asian text, certainly not any specific one.

Because you can maybe take one or two drone characters and twist them into a Japanese character or two certainly does not equal any meaningful correlation whatsoever - and absolutely DOES NOT "close the case".

I am impressed with your attempts to increase your understanding of the diagrams, however, and would encourage you to continue your work...

Originally posted by Outrageo
...Interesting "find" perhaps. Amusing even. But case-closing it is not.

If you want to close the case on this "evidence", kindly post a translation for the rest of us not so enlightened.

The similarities are far to many to be considered just a coincidence. Hell, the rest of the symbols look like (+), (-), (), and random dingbats. I'll try to find the exact font for you, even though you won't believe me.

I honestly don't know what evidence you want. You are willing to accept that the symbols share similarities with crop circles, yet you don't see the striking resemblance it has with Katakana. Would it be easier for you to believe that it's a message from the muxxxmis of the planet khablurrrgh? The secret to happiness?

You talk about evidence, now what irrefutable evidence do you have to prove that the "alien" text is real? Would you care to share the names of the top linguists around the world you talked to? Even better, have them post their findings here for all of us to see.

I'm sorry if I sound rude. When it comes to UFO's, I'm a firm believer. I just hate the fact that people fall for this kind of stuff. And what's even worse, they only need a compelling story.

Originally posted by Outrageo
What I was referring to (for the umpteenth time) is that we've had a lot of people come on to one of the many Drone threads (most of whom didn't want to be bothered with reading the research of others before them), and claiming that they "know" the drone font is Japanese Katakana, or a modified Klingon, or altered Enochian, etc. but NOBODY can make the 1-to-1 correlation to ANY font/language or come up with even a very rudimentary translation.

I've done many weeks of research on this specific topic already and have conferred with professional linguist experts from some of the top universities around the world. NONE of these experts is buying the connection to ANY Asian text, certainly not any specific one.

Because you can maybe take one or two drone characters and twist them into a Japanese character or two certainly does not equal any meaningful correlation whatsoever

But why does there have to be a translation at all, I mean why cant it just be an artistic piece.

If the drone was real then yes there should be a possible translation, but if it is fake then there is no reason for it to be able to translate.

And if it was just an artistic impression it would keep people guessing far longer.

Originally posted by Farnswoth
As many others have said, it's most likely butchered katakana. I made this example to show you that you can make a lot of the characters just by flipping and duplicating them.

I don't have any custom Japanese fonts installed, so it doesn't look exactly like the original ones. It's pretty close, though. I also had a Star Wars font installed that resembles some of the other characters in the diagrams. I don't remember where I got it, but it's called "trade federation".

I personaly think you are on to something here, nice work!

Case definitely NOT CLOSED... thats ridiculous, perhaps later tonight i will take English fonts and twist and bed them into the same alien text. Its ridiculous to say case closed when all you merely did was to basically crop, cut, and twist, and even invent new characters. Rock, your analysis of the diagram was impressive but this conclusion I cannot concur with.

What do we/I want for proof? I want the origional font set if it exists or at least a set with an IMPRESSIVE number of matches to the alien text whereas the Katana set fails at miserably, until you basically mutiliate it and butcher it into a new font (which could be dont with any fonts, to mimic any language). I am not of the belief that these were altered fonts, not by a long shot. I believe their is a better matching example of this alphabet yet to be discovered, Or this is actual alien text. I have found several other matches to fonts other than Katana that are far better matches. Case wide open...

[edit on 4-7-2007 by hiii_98]

My humble opinion/observation is that there are many "time wasters" to be found here on ATS. I cannot see why a font, text, or whatever would matter when we're dealing with one of two things.

A) Hoax = Who Cares, waste of time, move on
B) Real Alien text = There is no mystery font

Yes, I realize the arguement that "if" you find this mystery font you can pinpoint some origin or possibility of where the hoaxer came across this "Language" as Isaac calls it, and even presents pictures that are an exact match of font etc.

I'll go out on a limb here, simply because this is top notch real/hoax stuff. There is no matching "human" font, because if it's being hoaxed, these guys are not dumb enough to use a font in existence. How easily traced that would be. The only logical answer to your quest here, is it was either "created" specifically for this hoax, or, it's real Alien text/font/language.

And that my friend is "Case Closed" ;-)

If we could find that it matches some ancient Samarian text wouldn’t that hold significance to you? Would it not further the discussion as to the possible origins of this object? What if the Roswell crash debris symbols lined up making a perfect match?... What if some relatively unknown Klingon PacMan type text was discovered would that not help label the Sci Fi hoax author?

[edit on 4-7-2007 by hiii_98]

Look at the "bracked" symbols in the Isaac diagrams HERE, they look like the number system I had drawn for a conlang. (Yes, I am Ohvhil.)


S.E.D. Conlang



[edit on 4-7-2007 by Kiddergold]

Originally posted by Farnswoth
As many others have said, it's most likely butchered katakana. I made this example to show you that you can make a lot of the characters just by flipping and duplicating them.

I don't have any custom Japanese fonts installed, so it doesn't look exactly like the original ones. It's pretty close, though. I also had a Star Wars font installed that resembles some of the other characters in the diagrams. I don't remember where I got it, but it's called "trade federation".

That font is an exact match. Good Job!

With that font you can make it bold, change spacing, height, width, and ANYTHING ELSE in photoshop. I say case closed.

Originally posted by Kiddergold
Look at the "bracked" symbols in the Isaac diagrams HERE, they look like the number system I had drawn for a conlang. (Yes, I am Ohvhil.)

Cool very good match. That explains why there are two kinds/styles of symbols. Those written inside ":" are numbers. Issac lifted it straight from you.

Edit: Found 7 symbols for numerals in the diagrams. May be I missed one , because octal system makes more sense :p



[edit on 4/7/2007 by rocksolidbrain]

isaaccaret.fortunecity.com...

is it just me or does all the Isaac picture links no longer work?

Been a while since I was on.

Anyway, I do think that the "schematical diagram" theory holds the most weight, great job for coming up with that.

Perhaps this was created by the übergovernment?

Originally posted by hiii_98
isaaccaret.fortunecity.com...

is it just me or does all the Isaac picture links no longer work?

They work when clicked from the site itself. Seems he has disabled direct linking.