c2c Drone alien text deceiper

Vox, if and when you decide to prove your assertion that the drone text is katakana, you might want to avoid this pitfall. Nezuji's attempt backfired, convincing everyone who saw it that it wasn't katakana. Maybe you'll have more success (but I don't see how). You are spotted "fu". Good luck.

Originally posted by Nezuji
I've drawn the "unmolested" Japanese katakana characters onto the original image, so that you can verify for yourselves that they ARE, in fact, all just katakana that have been played with a bit (please excuse my writing;

Nezuji

Nezuji 's attempts look crude, unconvincing, and demonstrate the incompadability of the font types in my opinion.

Also to Vox my point is not to be rude or insult, but if you claim to know the answer its simple put up or shut up. We are all here interested in what you have to show us, but making claims without providing supporting evidence will not provide a conclusive answer to this alien text mystery...


[edit on 14-6-2007 by hiii_98]

On the Transformaer Viral/Drone hype thread, Hunt3r suggested that this all may be a part of tha Halo3 campaign. He even provided a link www....##.###/ar.jpg to an image that is definitely part of the campaign.

I piggy backed off his idea and started searching the bungie.net halo3 forums, and some of the users there think that the text resembles the language of something called "Covenant"

Someone better versed in "Halo" than I (I have never played the series at all) might be able to find more/understand what they find.

Happy Hunting!
Doc Moreau

There is no mystery.
All of these images, are from the preview release of Halo 3.

Michael,
Do you have links? Or is that just your opinion?

Did you play the beta release, and see something you are not allowed to speak about?


Doc Moreau

Originally posted by MichaelMyers

All of these images, are from the preview release of Halo 3.

Really ?

Any proof ?

Waiting as usual,
Lex

EarthFiles #1EarthFiles #2

The above links will clear up some misconceptions about the past drone sightings.

Originally posted by strat1961
EarthFiles #1EarthFiles #2

The above links will clear up some misconceptions about the past drone sightings.

Welcome to ATS. It would be really helpful if you did a little research before jumping in to straighten us all out. If you will read the posts on several of the threads discussing these drones, you will see that these 'photos' have been dissected to death weeks ago. Earthfiles is not what you would call a definitive or credible site. Thanks

Assuming that Issac's description of the writing being coded instructions (like a computer language) is true, we can stop attempting its translation into English or finding its meaning in human terms, as its likely that the language is meant for machines.

I got some time to view the "linguistic analysis primer" today and in the spirit of good fun, I tried to find what these diagrams could mean. Assuming that they are drawn by humans such as you and me, but a lot more smarter than us, its possible to at least guess some things out of them. Note that I'm not claiming its authentic or something, its just a good time kill for me.

1- As I posted in the sticky thread on the top, the pages are directly out of a scanner. The scanner was set at 300 dpi for 8,5"x11,0" paper, which is a standard size paper and which gives image size of 2550x3300 pixels. All pages have a width of 2550 and a height around 3000+.

2- The page 119 shows a part of "flow chart" with * marks leading to other parts. The numbers like 7128 etc show that there must be thousands of such pages. The other four pages are blow-ups of different parts. This image shows where each one goes and the amount of zoom in %.

3- The punch holes do not match, which means these are printed on entirely separate pages with one side blank.

4-Note that although its called linguistic analysis, the figure descriptions sound more like describing mechanical parts, e.g. junctions, switches, rotary members, linkages etc. So I figure out that these diagrams are symbolic representation of the hardware itself, with the various instructions that go with various parts. I guess, it was the job of Issac to find what each instruction do to its part. Below images show my guesses at what those diagram mean.

Each big part has smaller parts connected to it with "links" to form "unions". The big part has a "name" (the large symbols in the center) by which other parts identify it. (Though I did not try to find whether these names occur in the instructions anywhere). Obviously, these parts are connected via "anti-gravity", there are no physical links.(Or may be there are some when the part need to remain fixed and does not rotate etc)

The end parts are "nodes", that are connected to "junctions" of various types, sometimes via "switches" or "diffusers". The junctions can rotate in many axes (DOFs). The switches perhaps select what parts to move.

So, suppose if you want to build a car using this technology, simply link the steering wheel with four wheels using anti-gravity(or whatever) and write instructions on the wheels to follow the movements of steering wheel in some fashion. No need of any linkages, gears, bolts etc...

I could find some regularities (which also means that the diagrams are not completely random, and it took a great deal of time and effort to create them, if its a hoax). For example the "+" character marks the beginning and the ends of an instruction and ":" puts some part of the instruction in "blocks". So much like C++.

The curvy lines describe the motion of the parts and their weights indicate the "phases" or different stages of motion. I could not figure out what those clock like markings around the circumference mean. Tried to count them but no use. The circles and straight lines have stop/start points. And there is a hell lot more info encoded in these diagrams.

Some of the weird circles are from Cropbats or Crop Circle Bats font's, I've also found the two squiggly lines that cross over in a font (going to open my 889 fonts now and have a shufty since I can't remember the name). I've also asked several times, if this IS alien language, did the crop circles come before the batz or vice versa? If it IS their language, then that could explain why the circles sometimes seem to eminate strange energies that make plants grow, make people feel weird, and why some seem to magically appear (since IMO the whole thing seems like some sort of nanotech but we didn't really know about it back in the 80s so that's just how he explained it to himself 'language').

To give you some background, I do scale modelling as a hobby, and so I collect fonts to make decals, I have a variety of dingbats and self-created fonts from things like Warhammer 40k manuals/books. I've probably downloaded almost every free sci-fi font available, but it takes time and of course, not everything comes up in say a Word document, so you have to use things like X-Fonter to go into the Unicode and find some of the symbols.

I'll also pass on this amusing tale: I was reading the Voynich (sp?) manuscripts and the Rennes mystery documents a long while ago while talking to some friends, one of whom is a cryptographer for the gubberment. We were joking around that it was probably easy to make a language cypher that couldn't be cracked, he of course, thought that preposterous.

I whipped out a 'normal' albeit weirdly 'serifed' font, put it in italic, some bolded, some underlined, etc and then sawed it in half in PSP (vertically) and various other chunks and then flipped some, rotated others, etc. I then made it look like it actually said something (the actual text was 'the cat sat on the mat over and over...'.

He spent MONTHS and got some colleagues and the work mainframe involved in the end, and kept saying it was the 'find of the century' since noone could translate its cypher or even match it up to normal cryptographic standards.

I eventually told him I'd made it and oh the look on his face was priceless. He never quite forgave me to be honest, but at least I know the human mind is fallable.

If I find the pieces again, I'll edit this post and give ASCII codes and font names.

i don't think this is from them. because i spy some wingdings, japanese, and some other languages. so unless i'm proven wrong i will hold fast to my theory.

Take a moment to browse these "Star Trek" Alien fonts.. There are also Babylonian(sp?) Fonts and other alien fonts which shows how easy it would be to just mix up some font packs and get an "Alien Language". Also it's not that hard to make your own fonts similar to these. I think alot of the symbosl look alot similar though to the documents.

www.geocities.com...

OK for some reason, I can't edit that post, so I had to make a new one, sorry.

First off, I'm referencing the symbols from:

lucianarchy.proboards21... .com/index.cgi?board=ufosandextraterrestrial&action=display&thread=1183057365&page=1

I will attempt to upload the fonts to my personal website so you can verify them yourself in a zip when I've finished.

So far, the one font that fits a fair few is WP Japanese as Springer said.

I'll edit this post instead from now on.

EJ,
Your link doesn't work, but I copy/pasted part of it and
got to Here.

Wasn't the owner of the Lucianarchy page here during the
SERPO days and shown to be a fraud ?

It's been a long time, and his ATS name escapes me.

Anyway,
Lex

[edit on 1-7-2007 by Lexion]

Someone posted the link before anyone at ATS (or at least before I noticed this thread) and so I was working off that before I noticed this thread, hence I decided to post it as my 'reference' since some people might view the symbols differently.

I'm sure he's probably as tied up in some weirdness as much as the next man, but the symbols are what was important to me, since the spiral document page was irritating to have to try and work out the shape of the symbol and then go look it up, at least they were straightened out as much as possible on that page.

I'm going to stop looking for tonight, I'll carry on again tomorrow, because that DAMN alien language consistently makes me nauseated, and its got so bad now I can't sit still my stomach is aching so badly.

Anyone who owns a Microsoft joystick or steering wheel: I THINK I saw that weird two squiggly line symbol down the bottom left hand side in the aforesaid page on lunacy inside a symbol font for the joystick driver. Alas, I've not got the font now, but can someone please take a look if they do?

On a sidenote, there is also a font called Roswell I just noticed in my collection. As to whether the font matches the symbols I don't know, its been a while since I looked at the Roswell incident in any detail, but the font is mostly circles, these seem to be consistent with brushstrokes (like Japanese). Anyone remember that isolated tribe in Asia somewhere that was supposedly alien in nature (Dropas maybe?). I wonder what their language base was.

A couple of fonts with a very similar feel:
Tecnojap
Citrus Fruits

[edit on 1-7-2007 by AmbientNoise]

[edit on 1-7-2007 by AmbientNoise]

What the hey, maybe I'll just toss the lot of symbols into a font ... Could be interesting, maybe it'd sell... Here's a slap dash start with just two characters (A, B): PACL font

I was just reading though the Earthfiles, at what point did Chad state that he took the photo in the Bakersfield area????


I missed this... and i live here...

Assuming that Issac's description of the writing being coded instructions (like a computer language) is true, we can stop attempting its translation into English or finding its meaning in human terms, as its likely that the language is meant for machines.

excellent post and i'm surpised more people have not looked into this angle. Isaac claims the font is more of a coding diagram more than an actual technical language. A sort of hardware/software coding.

Furthermore with the clarity of these new fonts from the Isaac photos, i would think that finding a match would be much easier.

[edit on 2-7-2007 by hiii_98]

Look what I found.

here