Mexicans showing how they feel

Originally posted by souls

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox

Plus we think taco bell is Mexican food.

I'm Mexican and I can agree, all Mexicans hate Americans because you think Taco Bell is Mexican. Also, because we want to be like you and we are so jealous of that. I wish we could have hot dogs, McDonalds, and American Idol too. Damn yous Americans!....

Hey, if someone was trying to pass that crap off as being tied to MY heritage, I know I'd be a little peeved. S'all I'm sayin'

Thankfully there's not a huge market for frybread (though there SHOULD be)

Hey, hate begets Hate, if you can’t live in the same house with someone from another country then boo to you... I don’t care if you think they’re not support to be here, they are flooding the county, bring terrorist with them bla bla bla.

This land was once the land of the free but its was taken. Now everyone wants a piece of the idea. White’s slash Europeans came here and made it into a burlesque/casino/toilet/Rompa room. Land of the free My native ashtray.

Everyone in America thinks their pooh don’t stink but yet the rest of the world can smells it, I smell it and I live here. Smell so thick its turn the air black can even see down the road. Don’t feel bad because your poah stinks just change your dippers.

Everyone can live in the land of the free and tolerate each others pooh.
I’m kind of like Mexico you could change your own dippers to. Along with rest of the world that stinks like Pooh do!

Did I offend anyone? or make some one made. don't blaim me I'm only you with darker skin, you can thank Chistian Reform for that.

Originally posted by Franz von Humboldt

You talk about the mexicans chating "osama", well you obviously have not been to any football match in this country lately so just shut up.

Franz don't take it to heart. They had to come up with something creative. Passing out sweets or passing out candies, dancing in the streets has already been taken up by the anti-islam crowd So to vilify another they came up with the new one. Pretty soon it will be sightings of mexican and Islamic people donning Ahminijiad masks to NY Yankee games and a joint AQ/Mexican task force.


Pie

I think everybody should take their hats off for that poor lady she was so dignified and even acknowledged Mexican in spite of the booing.To me she is the perfect representative for any country (no matter what gov admin their under) to put up with that and still smile deserves respect.I bet the poor lass went out the back and balled her eyes out just because some people cant distinguish between an individual and there government they need a "DENY IGNORANCE" light to go with the "APPLAUSE" and "LAUGH" lights at some events.I hope she won.

Leave it to a group of Mexicans who paid to get into the pageant, and didn't favor a model from a country other their owns, to set the stereotype that all Mexicans are the same, eh?

Of course, when is it ever right to stereotype?

I find the amount of hypocrites crying foul from a simple booing, while they themselves demonize an entire country's citizens with a negative stereotype, very saddening. If those people feel that the audience shouldn't have been allowed to boo, or have an opinion, the I guess they should also refrain from criticizing the audience as well. "Freedom of speech" can't only belong to one group and not another.

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Number 1) It's a pageant, not a hockey match. Anymore, pageants resemble hockey for Barbie dolls backstage, I hear, but that's not the point. For the audience, especially at the international level, its about representing your country and if you are there to support your contestant, doing so in a way that is in line with the spirit of the event. I don't go to a baseball game expecting to see very fine sports wardrobe and beautiful grease paint beneath the eyes of the outfielders. I want a no hitter or a grand slam

You can't compare the two events to each other, because if you do, then your disconnect to reality is beyond hope and perhaps a trip to Mexico City is in order for you...permanently.

Number 2) Politically speaking, I'm not sure that many have brought about this point: the Mexican audience was not only booing at Miss USA, but against the most winning kid in school...the United States. They would have been happy if Miss Nepal won over her, anybody at all. The only thing the people there probably did not want to see was one more reason for an entire country to stomp on their necks one more time for whatever reason. It's called dignity.

Number 3) This thread has been from what I've seen way too much about immigration. For everyone who is posting with their gut instead of their head, remember, illegal immigration is as bad an epidemic, it is a failure at the highest social level between two bordering countries and it needs to be resolved in a way that offers the least pain to both parties.

Spare me the "kumbayah" replies, also. There is only one way to solve the problem between Mexico and the US. Frankly, Miss USA has offered one of the best solutions I've seen yet: be proud, be polite, offer yourself in the most humble way you can and thank your neighbor for what they have to offer.

Originally posted by hippichick


The US needs to get used to being booed and discriminated against. The world has woken up to the lies about US attitudes to human rights and freedom. The world has woken up to the fact that real human value is not based on how many internal combustion engines are in your garage but is based on fairness and peace for all, not just the geographic elite. The US is not only racist within its borders but is racist against the whole of the non-US world.

I suppose you state that because the great majority of Americans want to secure our borders, eh? Because some of us would favor placing troops on our national borders, that makes us a "mean and hateful nation," I see.

I tell you what, since America is so bad to the rest of the world, why doesn't some other nation take on the perceived "obligation" to accept the poor of other nations? I certainly don't see any other country racing to the forefront to do so. Hmmmm.... And you want to talk about human rights? LOL

[edit on 30-5-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth


I tell you what, since America is so bad to the rest of the world, why doesn't some other nation take on the perceived "obligation" to accept the poor of other nations? I certainly don't see any other country racing to the forefront to do so. Hmmmm.... And you want to talk about human rights? LOL

[edit on 30-5-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Huh? America isn't the only nation on the planet that accepts immigrants. Canada accepts a fair share.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Inspiteof, why should people who come here illegally, be able to live the American dream when most American CITIZENS no longer live the American dream? Please, do tell.

ok, so this wasn't directed at me... but let me take this apart

what the (4 letter word starting with F) makes an american more worthy of the american dream than a mexican? the only thing i see is name association. since when did your birth dictate your worthiness in a democratic society? this is the exact problem. you see americans as worth more than mexicans... and that's just messed up in so many ways.

You totally circumvented, as per usual for people who want open borders, the illegal immigration part. If someone wants to assimilate into our culture and not force us to assimilate theirs into ours, that's fine. However, we are dealing with 12-15 million illegal immigrants, not immigrants. Who, by the way, seem to think it their right to have the same benefits as actual CITIZENS do. Technically they are not immigrants until they become a citizen of a given nation.





[edit on 30-5-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

You see, most of you are wanting to turn this whole thing into a racial issue. Race does not even enter the equation for me. I am angry because I have concern for the welfare of my nation and the fact that it is being invaded by not only illegals from Mexico but other places as well. How are we supposed to support all of these people? Someone, please do tell me...

Does it infuriate me? You damn betcha it does. What infuriates me even more than the actual illegal entry into our nation is that you have some citizens and most politicians who don't want to do a damn thing about it!! Americans who really give a damn about this nation are tired of it!!

As far as this booing incident in Mexico, it doesn't surprise me. As I stated in my initial post, it's all "lovey dovey" as long as the United States acts as some refuge for others, but as soon as we start to try and find solutions for problems that are being caused in our own nation, oh, hell, we are the "devil" then.





[edit on 30-5-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by intrepid

Huh? America isn't the only nation on the planet that accepts immigrants. Canada accepts a fair share.

I didn't say it was. It is the only country that overtly announces that it will accept citizens from other nations though. Not only other citizens, but the "weak, tired, and poor" citizens of other nations. I don't know of any other nation that overtly makes that proclamation.

Anyway, as one of the other posters stated, the young lady that took the booing should be applauded because, despite the extreme disrespect she and the nation she represented was shown, she was gracious. That's what a REAL American is like. A REAL American is nothing like this sniffling, arrogant, pompous ass, some of you try to make us be.



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Originally posted by Franz von Humboldt
Yes, we booed her which means we hate the US so much.

why when we pay your people so much more money than they could ever make in your inept homeland?

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Originally posted by Reform America


My favorite piece of propaganda that every kid in the U.S. knows is this "Our country is the best, and we have never lost a war." Well... there is Iraq, Vietnam, and well, Korea was a draw, but heck none of these were true wars, they were only interventions approved by congress without declaring a true war.

My point is that, alot of the U.S. population is brought up with the idea that we don't need anyone else, and we will wipe up the enemies right way if we feel like it. Which is clearly not the case, and we have people coming up with excuses for our failures.

America hasn't actually won a war since WW2. That is true. I am beginning to view my country as little more than a paper tiger. However, there are contributing factors to that and it's not because we look out for our nation's own benefit either.

that's because they haven't formally declared war since Korea. in times of wars, soldiers' wages are massively increased. naturally, and sadly, today we see "conflicts."

This is not about nationalism.

Its even simpler than all of that. You live in a country and people are running next door to avoid....death by starvation and other not so nice conditions.

In the receiving country, people are saying "WTF! Where did all these people come from and why are they spillin' my drinks on my patio as they run through my backyard to get away from the Police??"

And this has been happening now in varying forms of news coverage and levels of people crossing the border for probably well over 20 to 30 years now.

So, you have those conditions and lo and behold, the most beautiful woman from the neighboring country comes into town for a pageant. This has absolutely nothing to do with illegal immigration this, posturing that, this person said this about them, that person said that about us...

Under these conditions, were the shoe on the other foot, Americans would find themselves behaving poorly in some way, I am sure. We already exhibit other behaviors that are so lovely and pure that I'm willing to accept our country for the pack of marauders that it truly is.

So there is no high ground in this argument. Only conditions that were favorable for bad behavior.

Now, sit up straight and eat your vegetables!

Originally posted by LooseLipsSinkShips


that's because they haven't formally declared war since Korea. in times of wars, soldiers' wages are massively increased. naturally, and sadly, today we see "conflicts."

My dad was in the Korean Conflict and as far as I know, it was never actually declared a war either.

[edit on 30-5-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by newtron25


And this has been happening now in varying forms of news coverage and levels of people crossing the border for probably well over 20 to 30 years now.

That is what is so disgraceful about the current situation. It's not new and there still hasn't been anything, of any significance, done about it.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Originally posted by seesinclouds
Not much room in the middle for us who play neither game! She was supposed to represent the beauty in the USA.

With all due respect, how does one get caught in the middle of this issue? You either support state sponsored terrorism or you don't... I'll admit that has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, so, why bring it up?

Ummm....what??? You get caught in the middle, much like she did...she doesn't sponsor terrorism, nor does she probably sponsor anything governmental, besides the fact that she is trying to represent the beauty of American women. She was not there to represent American government, which is the reason that they no doubt, booed her. They are probably glad that a riot didn't ensue. I don't think it wouldve taken much.

Originally posted by seesinclouds

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Originally posted by seesinclouds
Not much room in the middle for us who play neither game! She was supposed to represent the beauty in the USA.

With all due respect, how does one get caught in the middle of this issue? You either support state sponsored terrorism or you don't... I'll admit that has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, so, why bring it up?

Ummm....what??? You get caught in the middle, much like she did...she doesn't sponsor terrorism, nor does she probably sponsor anything governmental, besides the fact that she is trying to represent the beauty of American women. She was not there to represent American government, which is the reason that they no doubt, booed her. They are probably glad that a riot didn't ensue. I don't think it wouldve taken much.

She was not there to represent the US Govt, but she was there as a representative of the United States in the capacity of embassador of good will. As far as her title takes her, of course, and as far as she is bound by way of employment to Donald Trump.

She symbolized our country, which apparently, was enough for the Mexican audience. And as a beauty pageant winner, you have to accept carrying symbolism as one of your job descriptions. Symbol of beauty, grace, style...and a citizen of the country that "crowned" you. It is unfortunate that our Miss America has led such an insular life that she was not fully aware of her role or how others might truly perceive her presence there.

Actually, after watching the YouTube, she handled herself incredibly well. Better than I've seen the current U.S. President handle himself on most occasions.

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[edit on 30-5-2007 by newtron25]

Originally posted by Franz von Humboldt
Yes, we booed her which means we hate the US so much.

Hey, fine with me... Then STAY THE F#@* OUT!!! And tell your firends to STAY THE F#@* OUT as well!

I have a few strange thoughts on this.

You know why Mexicans speak Spanish? Because their forefathers came from Europe, just like most of the majority of America's did. Spanish is a European language, just ask anyone from Spain.

So the forefathers of the Mexican peoples came from Spain, Mine came from Ireland. That still makes us pretty close blood wise.

Strange thoughts, strange thoughts indeed....

I know, I know, it doesn't add much to why the lady was booed, just some food for thought.

Now back on topic

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