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Originally posted by esdad71
So you admit that there are no hijackers that are alive? Is that correct. You cannot play both sides of the fence and not get called.
Originally posted by esdad71
So you admit that there are no hijackers that are alive? Is that correct. You cannot play both sides of the fence and not get called.
Originally posted by esdad71
Lastly, like I said before, if there was even a shred of evidence that any of these men were truly alive, they would be on FoxNews or CNN.
Originally posted by selfless
Huh... no...
Do you honestly think that the news media channels who are owned by the corporations would broadcast something that would indicate an inside job?
Wow... never gonna happen.
Heck... they don't even show to people that they have found a possible cancer cure in Canada because the pharmacy companies don't want people to know about it...
I think pigs will fly before the corporate propaganda news channels reveals anything that is remotely true.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
AAC, read what I said again. I said THIS part of the conspiracy. Meaning the whole there were no hijackers conspiracy, as this is what this thread is about.....
Take your time buddy
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Thank you for clarifying what the thread I created is about.
This thread is highlighting the fact that the official story changed when CREDIBLE reports came out about some of the highjackers being alive. Now we are trying to understand how they had the list so early when there was a possibility that they may have stolen identities.
This leaves them just pointing their finger at who they wanted to be a highjacker on that plane. Get it? Take your time buddy.
AAC
You seem to be avoiding the points of interest.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
lol
Your previous post had 1 paragraph dedicated to the hijackers and that was just a quote from prison planet, the rest of it was talking about 9/11 in general. That's NOT what I was talking about in my post before then, I was only referring to the hijacker conspiracy...
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Since AAC's questions have been properly answered.
1. Were all the passengers on the planes in on it too when they called reporting what they saw? Were the air traffic controllers in on it too when they reported what they heard?
5. Has anyone here flown before 9/11? Do you remember how...bad security was?
Originally posted by esdad71
for clarification, they do not exist because they are dead. This is the same as the demo WTC arguement. Show us hijackers or proof of explosives and all arguements would go away. The post says show the hijackers, show track them down if they are alive.
Originally posted by esdad71
The post says show the hijackers, show track them down if they are alive.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Security handles sent the hijackers through after tripping the alarms. *FACT*
You don't have enough information to prove your points against the ones I have raised. You are just reiterating points of reference from the official story.
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
I see you did not say anything about my post.
www.trackingthethreat.com...
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
AAC, why did you quote me?
Absolutely nothing you wrote addressed any of my questions....
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Even the conspiracy sites have him listed as dead....
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Security handles sent the hijackers through after tripping the alarms. *FACT*
To illustrate how these anti-money laundering provisions aid our efforts, it is necessary to understand how the FBI has been re-structured to address terrorist financing matters. Identifying and tracking the financial structure supporting terrorist groups is critical to dismantling the organization and preventing future attacks. As in ordinary criminal investigations, "following the money" identifies, links, and develops evidence against those involved in criminal activity . In the early stages of the investigation into the events of September 11, it was financial evidence that quickly established links between the hijackers and identified co-conspirators.
It was also in the early stages of the 9/11 investigation that the FBI and DOJ identified a critical need for a more comprehensive, centralized approach to terrorist financial matters. In response, we established an interagency Terrorism Financial Review Group (TFRG) operating out of FBI Headquarters. By bringing together vast databases and the expertise of numerous federal agencies, the TFRG focuses a powerful array of resources on the financial tentacles of terrorist organizations.
After September 11th, the FBI and CIA quickly combined their resources to investigate terrorist funding mechanisms, including the exchange of personnel between the TFRG and the CIA Counterterrorism Center (CTC). In addition, at my request, the CIA generously agreed to detail a number of its analysts to the FBI Counterterrorism Division to help develop more effective analytical processes. I firmly believe the relationship and information sharing with the CIA is at an unparalleled level and will continue to pay dividends in our common mission. Information sharing has also been facilitated by PATRIOT Act provisions that permit the FBI to disclose foreign intelligence information, including information obtained through FISA, to intelligence agencies.
The TFRG was formed with a two-fold mission. First, it was designed to conduct a comprehensive financial analysis of the 19 hijackers to link them together and to identify their financial support structure within the United States and abroad. Second, it was designed as a template for preventive and predictive terrorist financial investigations. The mission of the TFRG has since evolved into a broader effort to identify, investigate, prosecute, disrupt, and dismantle all terrorist-related financial and fund-raising activities.
The TFRG has taken a leadership role in coordinating the financial investigative effort, and it is a comprehensive one. To accomplish this mission, it has implemented initiatives to address all aspects of terrorist financing. For instance, it:
conducts full financial analyses of terrorist suspects and their global financial support structures;
coordinates liaison and outreach efforts to exploit financial resources of private, government and foreign entities;
uses FBI and Legat expertise and relationships to develop financial information from foreign law enforcement and private agencies;
works jointly with the law enforcement, regulatory, and intelligence communities;
develops predictive models and mines data to proactively identify terrorist suspects, and;
provides the financial component to classified counterterrorism investigations in support of the FBI's counterterrorism responsibilities.
The TFRG has conducted an aggressive international outreach program to share information regarding terrorist financing methods with the financial community and law enforcement, and has built upon long-established relationships with the financial services community in the United States and abroad. The international outreach initiative is coordinated through the network of FBI Legal Attache Offices located in 44 key cities worldwide, providing coverage for more than 200 countries and territories.
A significant focus of the TFRG is prediction and prevention. It has developed numerous data mining projects to provide further predictive abilities and maximize the use of both public and private database information. These efforts are complemented by the centralized terrorist financial database which the TFRG developed. This information is used to identify terrorist cells operating in the United States and abroad to prevent further terrorist acts. Indeed, the TFRG meets regularly with representatives from the banking community and the financial services industry to share information and to refine methods to detect and identify potential terrorists around the world.
The TFRG created and updates a financial control list which contains names and identifying data for individuals under investigation for potential links to terrorist organizations. These lists are regularly shared with domestic and international law enforcement and intelligence agencies, and with the Federal Reserve Board (FRB), which disseminates the lists to financial institutions so they can flag suspicious financial activity.
As a participant on the National Security Council's Policy Coordinating Committee (PCC) on terrorist finance, the TFRG leads the effort to target Non-Governmental Organizations believed to provide financial support to known Foreign Terrorist Organizations and affiliated terrorist cells. The PCC coordinates the development and implementation of policies to combat terrorist financing and provides analysis on these issues. Numerous FBI Field Offices have open investigations into organizations that may be funneling money to Foreign Terrorist Organizations and the TFRG has acted as a clearinghouse for these cases, gathering and summarizing data.
The TFRG regularly shares information with the Joint Terrorist Tracking Task Forces, Customs' Operation Green Quest (TFRG provides daily downloads from its RAID database to Green Quest), and FinCEN. Further, the TFRG is working with FinCEN to explore new ways to data mine the Suspicious Activity Report (SAR), Currency Transaction Report (CTR), and Currency and Monetary Instrument Report (CMIR) databases.
Based on its international investigative abilities, and its close association with the Intelligence Community, the TFRG is in a unique position to coordinate anti-terrorism financial investigations and to ensure those investigations are coordinated with the goals and objectives of our Counterterrorism program.
Originally posted by esdad71
I am not a teenager and you are bordering on being a jerk off AAC.
As this Committee is well aware, the FBI, along with other federal law enforcement agencies, investigates and prosecutes individuals who use false identities, or the identities of others, to carry out violations of federal criminal law. These violations include bank fraud, credit card fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, money laundering, bankruptcy fraud, computer crimes, and fugitive cases. When these crimes are carried out using a false or stolen identity, investigation of the offenses becomes much more complicated.
Seems that is someone doesn ot agree with your POV then you get slightly defensive.
I am repeating the same thing becuase you have backpedaled.
It is YOUR job to prove that they are alive, since that is what the thread is about.
(gotta laugh at that one too since they are scared to do anything to piss of hte Muslim popualtion in England)
After September 11th, the FBI and CIA quickly combined their resources to investigate terrorist funding mechanisms, including the exchange of personnel between the TFRG and the CIA Counterterrorism Center (CTC). In addition, at my request, the CIA generously agreed to detail a number of its analysts to the FBI Counterterrorism Division to help develop more effective analytical processes. I firmly believe the relationship and information sharing with the CIA is at an unparalleled level and will continue to pay dividends in our common mission. Information sharing has also been facilitated by PATRIOT Act provisions that permit the FBI to disclose foreign intelligence information, including information obtained through FISA, to intelligence agencies.
Live in the denial that terrorists are boogeymen created by the government and one day as you go to work you will die like those poor workers on 9/11 who did nothing more than wake up and go to work.
Now, I know you won;t read it, but you should. It jsut might open your eyes past prisonplanet and the rhetoric it spews.