Please stop with the 2012 A.D nonsense.

Originally posted by albie
Yeah, the mayans. How many people did they sacrifice I wonder.

Great people to take advice from about the end of the world.

Thats funny you could say the same thing about the church - how may did they kill in the name of christ yet people still told how to live and to believe everything they say.

Our countries forefathers had slaves yet we hold them as great icons.

The world was differant back then.

but the fact they knew certain thing about the galaxy and the way things happened/happening cannot be explained by sheer coincidence.

i suggest people do some research on the Mayans.

Orion_

I talked about this once on a podcast a while back, I think it was one of my first podcasts ever


WUKNR 2012

It's just people somehow want the world to end before they do. There has always been a date for the end of the world sense the dawn of time. The truth is the world probably won't end within our lifetime or our grandchildren's lifetime for that matter. Unless something unforeseen occurs.

Everyone should read this book.
It gives a great insight into the mayans beliefs, and how these crystal skulls link in to the whole 2012 thing.
Its an excellent read, I couldn't put it down, and I wasn't interested in any of this before I read it!

Double post sorry!
TO

[edit on 23-9-2007 by TheOmen]

Originally posted by Now_Then
The mayans have (had) several different types of calenders for different purposes, i,e one simular to the gregorian one for planting crops etc cos that needed to be yearly.

Can't remember the specifics at the moment, but the one refered to in all this about 2012 has a system of so many symbols and I think 12 numbers, so a date could be something along the lines of sun - cow - 4 or something. It wasn't to hard to find out when I went looking for is ages ago.

One thing I do remember for sure is that if you extrapulate fowards the calender does 'end' in 2012, then it simply begins again. That will be the 4th time, as we are currently in the 3rd cycle. Hope that helps a bit

They might have had a handle on Astronomy but I would take their words with a grain of salt. These were the same people painting their bodies blue for good luck, thought periods were ominous signs of bad luck, and sacrificed people's lives according to how well the crops were doing.

Alot of The ancient civilisations like the Aztecs, Mayans, Mixtecs, Toltecs and the people of Teotihuacan believed in Quetzalcoatl, a feathered serpent God here's wiki's rendition on him.

Here's some info on the Mayans, their practises and beliefs. Should clear up alot of problems people might have, or just give you all some more info on the civilisation.
Hope you all find it interesting!

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I cannot agree with you more TheStev. Just because we are used to 'normal' doesnt mean something 'abnormal' cannot happen. People are so sure 2012 wont happen is because they are so adjust to having the normal day to day life and simply cannot put into concept the claims and predictions of the Mayan prophecy. Good on you buddy! Take care

documentary on mayan doomsday calander
its the history channel program, fairly interesting as well

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Just study and keep doing research. I dont think the world will end, but i do think we will finally get to see what are government is been hiding. such as the real reason why we came to earth after we ruined Mars, I am a college student and i been studying some crazy stuff/ 2012 isnt the end so dont worry, but worry with what we might see on this date, the Maya wanted us to see are close friends who helped us learn how to live. They speak of them. So it must be true. the government know this and they know what is says on the first temple they found, I talks at the end they will come back to make sure the world they helped creat is still moving on and not messed up.

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I think the myan calendar ends because the astonomy they used to create it will be different. if a pole change occurs it would put constalations and stars in different position of the sky therefor the calender is void. that calender to my knowledge was created useing the stars and constalations so anyone else think that.

They did predict when thier world would end and are world is going downhill fast can't you see that? I'm not saying that thier right or wrong but I do think that it should be taken' into account.

Why should they? Some of em are still running with US civil war predicted for 2006.

Some people just don't have anything better to do.

The world only ends when you die.

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it said it would end some time in the 20th century not year 2000

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My god I'm with you. If I hear anyone else say 2012 with a straight face my XYZ may ABC. I can't WAIT for the first seconds of 2013 to tick over so we can leave this behind.

Originally posted by thehumbleone
Also, what's with this theory stating that mankind will obtain a higher consciousness?

Hopefully we will. Humanity needs a higher level of awareness.

Too many believe the meaning of life is to buy a home to live in, get the latest model car, have kids, be good slaves to those with more wealth and then die. They believe that our Governments love and care for us, and are looking out for our best interests.
Having a higher consciousness begins with knowing this is BS, and then discovering the truth.

the world will not end in 2012..the planet nibiru is a cover up for Lucifer coming to earth. it is an embodiment. God and his angels will defeat him just like he did all those billion years ago. all good of man will become warriors in spirit and all evil will become lucifers followers. this is not a physical battle, but a battle of spirit, i know that i will be on the front lines to protect everything and everyone beautiful in this world. join the real cause dont believe everything that is written

Reminds me of a cute site I visited last night, entitled
' 200 end-world predictions' lol

and yes, 2012 was in there.

The 7th Day Adventists hold the record for failed world's-end predictions, apparently .. running at around 13 or so at the moment

For those who're actually worried by the ignorance surrounding 2012 and the 'promised' (by some) end of world scenarios, you could do nothing better than depart ATS for ten minutes and run some searches on 'failed world end predictions' or something similar. You'll find enough to keep you reading for a solid month. And religion's as guilty as all the false prophets. In 1000 AD for example, people gave away everything they owned to the poor or made pilgrimages to the alleged Holy Lands .. because they had been TOLD and were CONVINCED the world would end that year.

World end scenarios were rampant prior to 1000AD and since.

Few seem to be aware that there's been a world's-end prediction for virtually every single year since the year dot .. and all through the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and of course .... 2000.

But it hasn't stopped there. The world's end folk have kept up the pace since 2000.

And believe it or not .. there are world-end predictions far into the future, for 2047 for example.

So 2012 will pass just as 1000AD did, just as 2000AD did.

Some won't be happy to hear that of course. Their ego demands that the world end during their lifetime. The drama ! The appropriateness ! Of course, because it's THEIR life and thus everything of any importance just has to revolve around and focus on THEM.

Then 2012 trundles through, just like any other year.

Then they get into their 30s and 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s

Then the SHOCK ! They're OLD ! They're dying in hospital of old age! Their hair is gone, like their hearing and eyesight and sphincter control !

Oh my ... they're dying ! Going. Gone. And the world still hasn't ended !

All around them in the visitor's room are BABIES and YOUNG people !

How can this BE ? The damn world has kept on turning and new people have continued arriving on the planet ! It wasn't supposed to happen this way. Not when they devoted so much of their youth fixated on the world ending and dying WITH them !

Then they realise what they threw away. All that time, playing it brooding and moody and believing the world would end while they were young.

But the world never agreed with them
The world never agreed to end just to indulge their drama-addiction

The world laughed
The world has seen it time and time again

The world has every intention of continuing through 4000AD, 5000, 6000

Sees them all come and go with their puny little lifespans during which they imagine everything of importance must happen

Plan for a future beyond 2012.
Otherwise, you're fated to be disappointed

Has anyone ever thought that maybe when the poles shift in 2012 it will not only change our consciousness but the powers that be like whose at the top will be at the bottom and visa versa. I think black and white people get along together relatively good but physically are polar opposites. Right now i would say the white side has the upper hand. the question is do you guys think the when the world is turned upside down and the poles shift could there be a shift in power. maybe that's why we are seeing the coming of a black pres and more prominence in the black community than we have ever seen in years? What do you guys think?