Ron paul to be removed..

DOC Velocity is a person who is afraid and hopeless. He is hopeless, but it doesn't end there. He is afraid of hope, because of what it might mean. For as long as he has been alive, no one has been able to change anything. It has been one perpetual cycle of corruption, greed, and selfishness.

Now, some one comes around and says it is time for change. He laughs for two reasons. The first is because he has never seen or heard of it being done, so why would it change now. But the second and more important reason, is fear. He wants to laugh it off. He wants it to go away. It is not the shadow government he is afraid of, or the terrorists they speak of, but change. He fears change, and what will become of it.

He has to deny Ron Paul, because if he supported him, and Paul succeeded, that will mean change. Now comes what we can't predict, what we can't expect. Some people fear that mystery of what will happen. What is the worst that could happen? For us, a deadlock between the president and congress for 4 years in which nothing gets accomplished....But for him, the worst that could happen is Mr. Pauls Success. His success brings change, and you don't want that do you? Because for the first time in your life, you wouldn't know what to expect, and you wouldn't have the excuse that there is a shadow government to shift the blame onto.

With Mr. Paul succeeding, you would have to start caring, because the way politics would change, you would have to. Until this change, politics didn't matter because you didn't have a say. But what happens when things change and you do? Then you have to start to care, and for some, thats just too much to ask of them....

Ram, you're a conceited son of a bitch who will criticize some other country's problems before looking at those of your own, and I don't mind telling you.

Can we please stick to the topic of this thread!
If you have forgotten it is tittled Ron Paul to be removed

Quote: "With Mr. Paul succeeding, you would have to start caring, because the way politics would change, you would have to. Until this change, politics didn't matter because you didn't have a say. But what happens when things change and you do? Then you have to start to care, and for some, thats just too much to ask of them...."

This is a great statement.

This is the EXACT reason I will be voting for the first time in my life. I will actually have a say in what I BELIEVE IN. Just like EVERYONE ELSE.

Every other election I didnt think my vote counted. But, this one, I think they have NO CHOICE but to count my vote because if they dont, REVOLUTION.

If we dont have a choice than this isnt the AMERICA I live in and love.

Originally posted by Ram
...I think you country is heading a bit to much towards civil war.
If your capable to see just a minor way out into your future country - Your are heading for civil war Cuz this crap is gonna explode one way or another....

We are already in a civil war of sorts. A civil cold war.

The 'sides' are difficult to categorize. From my viewpoint it is rural versus urban, but the differences are not merely geographic. It is more of a philosophy of governance.

Giuliani is a freaking joke and he likes to dress in woman... What does that say to you? And he's always wrapping himself in the flag citing 9/11, this is SICK. The majority of family victims are convinced that it was an inside job.

Also, in the first video, they try to spin it to say that Ron Paul said it was an inside job... he didn't say that at all.. even if he believes it...but it's another subject.

Michele Malkin is a biatch, like always. Good old Faux News... better than comedy central!

If they remove him, they'll have a big backslash... I hope there's riots... or something.

I vote Revolution in 2009. Paul/Gravel would kick ass but Paul said that he wouldn't run independant...

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Indoctrinated and radical sheeps, that's what so many of these neo-cons are.
Democratic? No.
Don't agree with the main stream propaganda? You are infected with a virus.

Bear one thing in mind. If there's one person who could prevent the US and thus the world economy from collapsing, it will be Ron Paul. Clinton and most of those ignorant neo-con apes desire power and power only.

However, one thing has become very clear to me. The lack of quality television explains why there's so many American radical sheeps around who know only one word: that of Islamofascism.

Fox news is the biggest joke in US media history. I always assumed that news channels were objective, obviously, this is only the case in the majority of countries in Europe.

Originally posted by Mdv2
If there's one person who could prevent the US and thus the world economy from collapsing, it will be Ron Paul.

From various clips I've seen of him as Congressman and since, I think even Dr. Paul is painfully aware of the fact that the economy is in dire condition regardless of what the president does at this point.

Unless the dollar is put back on a gold and/or silver standard like Kennedy tried to do, or unless the dollar is switched out with currency that's so backed, it's only a matter of time until it bottoms out and we got into a depression just asking for the Amero.

the asian lady said it perfect - " the truth virus " YES !

It really is disgraceful that Ron Paul has received so much harrassment. He paid his dues. No, they couldn't have an honest person in office could they? What this country needs, badly, is a government that has some form of decency.. it is so corrupy and rife with scandal after scandal, just sickening... people need to say enough!

It really is a shame. I know there was an alert on one of the other boards encouraging people to call their representatives to voice their concerns about Mr. Paul being able to run as a candidate because he was being rejected, even after he paid his fees.

It really is disgraceful that Ron Paul has received so much harrassment. He paid his dues. No, they couldn't have an honest person in office could they? What this country needs, badly, is a government that has some form of decency.. it is so corrupy and rife with scandal after scandal, just sickening... people need to say enough!

It really is a shame. I know there was an alert on one of the other boards encouraging people to call their representatives to voice their concerns about Mr. Paul being able to run as a candidate because he was being rejected, even after he paid his fees.

Originally posted by gen.disaray
the asian lady said it perfect - " the truth virus " YES !

You are very right. American citizens have the right to know the truth. It's like a virus, more and more people want to know the truth. Instead, they are getting more and more lies.

Right. Just like all the revolutions throughout history, I'm sure. A country doesn't just wake up one day and decide its leaders need to be forcefully removed. It happens over time, as people slowly realize more and more what a mess their country has become.

In today's age that means overcoming the MSM barrier, and to these brain-dead (or worse) anchors and "contributors", I sure as hell hope it seems like a virus to them, because if justice is served, that's exactly what it'll be for them, and they should have their days at the gallows for what equates to psychological complicity.

The MSM barrier is the only thing keeping rational people like Ron Paul out of reach, and putting sick bastards like Rudy Giuliani in their place. Banning them from debates, ignoring them, demonizing them, is their methodology.

Too bad Ron Paul is such a charismatic, reasonable guy, or they wouldn't be having such hell right now trying to demonize him.

Originally posted by uberarcanist
Ram, you're a conceited son of a bitch who will criticize some other country's problems before looking at those of your own, and I don't mind telling you.

Im a bit ahead of time uberarcanist - Im communicating with the new Global community. This is what Tony Blair and all european leaders are preaching for aswell.
A new order of the world is one global community - On global coin.
And so you must learn to talk to people in other countries - cuz they are making this planet a much more happy and safe environment.

A world with no terrorist - a world where evil has been removed form the planet. It interrest me.

Our leaders are asking us to think more globally - and this is what im doing for them. Is this is the global mind you want??

A world where there is global control - And we all share this place under one law. I am just preparing you for what the global mindset is. If you don't like it - What the hell are you voting for then?

We have a european union - We are all good freinds here in EU - And our leaders ask us to think Globally... This is just me taking care about your part of the global union that will come when America becomes a Neo-con state. Offcourse connected with both Mexico and Canada. Such good freinds - such a safe dream. A global army...ect. One big happy economic family.

Just look at Tony Blair in this nice thread Tony Blair new President World Bank? - They want us to care about eachother you see? It's the happy global family.

Why do you think I sing my national song when taking a shower - ?`It's a joke.. This is the new world order...And you proberly cannot understand it one bit. Do as your leaders say - Think Global.

Thats why - Bitch!.

Originally posted by Sauron Can we please stick to the topic of this thread!
If you have forgotten it is tittled Ron Paul to be removed

I explain you why..
It's peoples right to know why their next president is being dis-qualified..
This is what it's all about... people have a right to discuss such matter. It's their hope he will become president - And now their media tells they want to remove him.
That is basically what the discussion is about.

Is it not allowed for people to have dreams about the future anymore?
you see... Logic.
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-a side note-
One more thing I wanna add.. Is the insanity..

Both sides talk about logic - Saying some things are logic - be logical..
That is the proof that this world is insane.
If you don't understand how that is insane - Well - think logic...

They are using words such as logic - on both sides - there you have it.

What is logic then? I dunno.

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"The 9/11 Truth Virus"

Clever use of words.

From my perspective, as someone who looks at propaganda in language, its a gold mine.

It plants an idea that questioning the official lines is dirty. People associate virii - especially in this day an age - with things like AIDS, SARS and Ebola.

It suggests that it infects, takes hold and can be deadly. Its one of the most acidicly sublime pieces of Newspeak I've come across in a while and it shows that the Republicans have come much much further that the days of describing people as "cheese eating surrender monkeys".

You need to watch the words people. Its the subtleties that make all the difference.

Originally posted by chibihogoshino
Everyone should vote for this at leat it will send some kind of message.

Ron Paul RNC Participation Petition

Cool Keep them coming!! As of now Ron Paul has 9577 votes to stay in. Whooot!!!

Originally posted by Caustic Logic
Thank you, good to see that actually happen. Where did Paul say the US had a hand in 9/11? He said our actions were responsible for the anger that led to the attack in the kind of cause and effect thing by which the world actually works. Pretty tame statement if you ask me.
Giuliani's heard some ridiculous things about 9/11 huh? He's probably all up on the mini-nukes stories and such, but he's NEVER heard that we might've helped inspire the enemy? He never heard of bin Laden's Fatwas of holy war over American actions? And he wants to be friggin' President? this is INSANITY. Pure good vs. evil symbolism divorced of ALL SEMBLANCE OF REALITY! Please, how could anyone take this seriously and clap? I feel a deep pit in my belly opening up and my guts sliding down in despair. It's a familiar enough feeling by now of course.

edit: I think they were more clapping against Paul than for Rudy

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The points are well made on this. Paul wasn't making any massively enlightening statement or even aligning himself with the 'truthers' viewpoint. I also like how Fox later places a statement up like "Guiliani takes on 911 truther...blah blah blah". It's SPIN people. It USED to be an art. Now it simply appears childish and everyone can see through it.

All of the comments about civil war and no civil war...well, if martial law is declared and then UN troops come into this country, I guarantee you that civil war will follow no matter how many different factions there are. The primary targets will be the manipulators that will have sent us down that road.

This is pathetic! If anyone has any doubts about how Democracy is being compromised in the United States... If anyone doubts that the Oligarchy/Plutocracy/Meritocracy has hijacked our government... If anyone cannot make the connection between how the media is biased and influences the political process then they simply need to take a careful look at what the GOP and the mainstream media are doing to Ron Paul.

The damned GOP had better begin to understand that WE, THE PEOPLE get to choose our candidates through the caucuses and primaries. WE will vote for those candidates that WE believe best represent OUR interests! Today's politicans obviously feel that it is a government BY the politicans FOR the politicians and I can assure you - WE, THE PEOPLE are getting pretty damned fed up with this and the sentiment on the street is that it is time to take the government back!

As a lifelong Conservative, I can admit that I have favored the Republican party in past elections. Now, however, I am strictly Independent and am watching many among the masses come to the middle as well - the middle, devoid of EITHER poltical party. I don't believe that I can ever cast another vote for any candidate from either party unless they possess the honesty, frankness and interest of the American people. Today, that candidate is Ron Paul!

Rest assured though, the Oligarchy/Plutocracy/Meritocracy are going to do everything in their power to oust Dr. Paul from the political process. If they are unsuccessful due to the publicity, then you can guarantee that they will sabotage and hijack the election internally - in other words, your vote won't count.

Honestly people, we are on the eve of a new revolution!!! This needn't be a bloody coup, simply an honest demand for the power to be restored to the people. Civil disobedience. Boycotts. Protests. Demand your rights and demand your place in history. For if we fail to do what is both necessary and right, there is no future.

Originally posted by xEphon
We have no choice? Then why is everyone so threated by what Ron Paul is saying!? They're threatened because for the first time, in a long time, we actually DO have a choice. People resonate with the fact that he is speaking what many are feeling and hes not afraid to say it. The polls prove it.

That's exactly the kind of brain washing techniques the shadow government would implement after having to expose them selves so extremely in the last 6 years. When things becomes too obvious, they have to re-assimilate the populations into thinking the people are in control. This of course being a perpetrated mass illusion.

You can only brain wash a person to a certain point. But when a key to unlock the collective consciousness subliminal lock is offered due to extreme measures taken by the shadow government who had no choice to risk exposing them selves to a high degree in order to maintain control is created, they need to water down their operations and create the illusion that the people after waking up a little bit are now offered a choice to elect a person that represents the collective consciousness shifting of perception towards how the US government is actually a fascist faction in the eyes of the American people.

This means that who ever is elected is just part of the agenda, the agenda to maintain collective brain washing onto the masses. Trust me, they invested a lot of resources into mind control methods, no matter what happens in the news and in the media is all part of a whole wide scale population mind control method that creates intended ideological perceptions from the shadow government. With out this brain washing control they implement into our collective stream of thoughts, they would be hunted down by every single person on the planet for all the atrocities they committed.

But of course since this shift was the result of the shadow government having to go to desperate measures to maintain their ritual magic on reality, they know that they can only prolong the inevitable.

They are a dying breed and in desperate need of a miracle cure... They think that the chip implant is the answer to all their struggles but it will only be their undoing. They are not advanced enough to force technology on us in our reality that would physiologically interrupt the choices of our souls, they are not even close to that understanding. Most of them are just manipulated by naturally evil incarnates and aren't even aware of the things they are doing. Slaves with in their own selves serving the higher ranked people who put this whole thing together from their knowledge obtained by awakening perceptions.

''the unnatural souls who doesn't belong in our existence will ultimately try to invent their own home into this foreign reality and it won't be compatible''

Just like all magik rituals, the spell has an ending and the edge of the end of the spell is always the roughest part of the spell for those who are under the control of it but after the hard part is over, the spell dies and peace surfaces once again.

When their spell wears off, all the natural souls of this existence won't be blinded by materialistic ideology anymore and that's when the ones who implemented their delusional home on us will be casted out into lower realms of existence.

Please, oh God PLEASE tell me this is just a bunch of sarcasm! If not then I feel very afraid for you and any offspring you have or may have in the future.


Mod Edit: Removed the big quote from the post right above.


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