The Driver Shot JFK : REVISITED

I don't think the driver shot him. I believe he was shot 2 times at least in the head. One in back of head and one in the right temple. Greer was in wrong position for the temple shot. Oswald didn't make any shots cause J. Garrison said tests on his face for gun powder were negative. If Greer had shot him it would have hit JFK directly in the face or forehead. So far I'm up to ten shooters. 3 behind grassy knoll fence. (Files, Sarti, and man in suit the deaf mute saw) D. Ferry and man in tree to the left of Zapruder, 1 to the right of Zapruder, 2 in TSBD, Braden in Daltex Bldg, 1 on south plaza across the st. made neck shot through windshield. More if shooters were in sewers or on top of bldgs.

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This shows Greer on JFKs left side, in wrong angle for temple shot. Also look at the man next to Billy Lovelady in the doorway. His face is always blocked out. Is it Jack Ruby?

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(2nd half)shows James Files who confesses, he made the fatal temple shot.


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I heard about Wm. Cooper's idea many years ago, and like Groden et al, I thought it was disinformation or that Cooper was out of his mind. Now I'm thinking: Taking the driver shooting JFK purely as an optical illusion, what are the chances of such a dramatic illusion occuring at the exact most dramatic second of the most dramatic and important film in human history? A trillion to one? Or more than that? So if it's not just the most amazing coincidence in history, what was done to make it appear as an illusion? Could the gov't seize the film, copy it to large format film, add moving reflections, then recopy the large format film back to 8mm? It's either that or I have to believe in the Easter
bunny, which is actually more believable.

i dont think it was the driver,there were to many witnesses in the area at the time,ithink that the driver should of sped off at the sound of the fist missile that was fired,it looks like the brake was applied at one instance which may have given the shooters a better target

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Originally posted by dalethorn
I heard about Wm. Cooper's idea many years ago, and like Groden et al, I thought it was disinformation or that Cooper was out of his mind. Now I'm thinking: Taking the driver shooting JFK purely as an optical illusion, what are the chances of such a dramatic illusion occuring at the exact most dramatic second of the most dramatic and important film in human history? A trillion to one? Or more than that? So if it's not just the most amazing coincidence in history, what was done to make it appear as an illusion? Could the gov't seize the film, copy it to large format film, add moving reflections, then recopy the large format film back to 8mm? It's either that or I have to believe in the Easter
bunny, which is actually more believable.

The chances are statistically impossible. Greer fired the fatal shot by shooting over his right shoulder directly into Kennedy's right forehead.


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I saw this and was pretty blown away. Pun intended.

Greer places gun with right hand in left starting around frame 240.



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-Greer places gun in his left hand with his right starting at frame 242.
-The perfect view of the gun forms underneath fake reflections created during alteration in the days after the assassination. Frame 278 is the last frame the fitted gun is seen before the alteration pans upward to prevent viewing of Greer moving the gun near his right shoulder before turns the second time to shoot jfk.
-318 is the fake reflection
-319 is the physical gun bleached out in white. Watch Roy go after the gun by leaning way forward and to his left. Greer fired and quickly threw or laid the gun on the front seat floor.

Greer places gun in left hand.


Frame 278 (the gun in left hand goes missing after this and reappears with the alteration at 303-304.

The perfect view of the gun with arm and hand forms when Greer shoots over his right shoulder. The fake reflection jolts and recoils.




319 was pointed out to me by a researcher earlier this year but I then figured out 318 was the fake reflection.
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Case closed after less 47 years of constant Bull# by hundreds of researchers who have knowingly misled and lied to the american people for decades.

Roy Kelleman leans forward to retreive gun after Greer throws it to the floor.

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It's a ridiculous theory although I do admit, it does look like he did it BUT...........that's because it's been pointed out to us. It's like looking at cloud and until someone points out what it looks like, you would never have seen it!

Think about. Just think about won't you? Why would someone, in the middle of a live televised broadcast, in the middle of the day and in front of hundreds (thousands?) of spectators risk shooting someone, thinking, he wouldn't be noticed? I mean that's beyond brazen and ballsy!

I don't care what theories you people come up with as far as why he would do it because it's way too off the chart even for me to consider and I am a conspiracy enabler!

The CIA (Bush) and mafia were behind this. Case closed.

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I agree with you with the fact that this is a ridiculous theory (Well IMO it is anyway) but I just wanted to clear something up that you mentioned which is used to back up what you say but is false...

Think about. Just think about won't you? Why would someone, in the middle of a live televised broadcast, in the middle of the day and in front of hundreds (thousands?) of spectators risk shooting someone, thinking, he wouldn't be noticed? I mean that's beyond brazen and ballsy!

This isn't actually a live televised broadcast at all, in fact there shouldn't be a film of the events here as it wasn't deemed “important enough” by the media to film in the Dealey plaza area as it was of insignificance. Instead the film we see was captured by Adrian Zapruder (hence the name “The Zapruder film”) who was simply a civilian trying to capture a glimpse of the president as he passed by but instead he inadvertently captured the assassination itself.

So to say he didn't do it (greer) because millions would be watching is pretty much incorrect as this part of the journey had no media coverage at all. Although I suppose he would've seen the photographers but hey, he didn't shoot the president anyway did he?

The only live assassination of the entire Kennedy case captured was in fact the assassination of Oswald (the alleged assassin himself) by Jack Ruby which was filmed live on television and seen by millions.

Greer fired the fatal shot beyond a doubt. No one has or will ever challenge it because they can't.
319 is the gun bleached out and you can see Kellerman reaching for it after Greer throws it to the floor.

Roy reaches forward for gun.

319 is the bleached gun in white.

Forward 316-321 you can see the object disappear into the floor.

Backward-You can see 319 is definitely an object rising from the floor with 320 as part of it. 318 is totally the fake hair reflection.

I'm in agreement. William Greer killed Kennedy.

The grassy knoll theory has been debunked, the reason being it was a right front and right rear exit wound fron Kennedy's head. Greer was the only one who had the shot to deliver that wound, it couldn't have come from the grassy knoll. Wrong angles.

Originally posted by Guerrilla Train
I'm in agreement. William Greer killed Kennedy.

The grassy knoll theory has been debunked, the reason being it was a right front and right rear exit wound fron Kennedy's head. Greer was the only one who had the shot to deliver that wound, it couldn't have come from the grassy knoll. Wrong angles.

Finally some people thinking right after 9 months of posting on boards. Simple geometry excludes the picket fence on the north side of elm street.

Movie angle is a LIE. Oliver knew Greer fired the fatal shot because it's totally obvious when researching this.

Originally posted by 7forever

Originally posted by Guerrilla Train
I'm in agreement. William Greer killed Kennedy.

The grassy knoll theory has been debunked, the reason being it was a right front and right rear exit wound fron Kennedy's head. Greer was the only one who had the shot to deliver that wound, it couldn't have come from the grassy knoll. Wrong angles.

Finally some people thinking right after 9 months of posting on boards.

Simple geometry excludes the picket fence on the north side of elm street.

Does it also exclude the sewer drain?. Better angle?.

Originally posted by Guerrilla Train

Originally posted by 7forever

Originally posted by Guerrilla Train
I'm in agreement. William Greer killed Kennedy.

The grassy knoll theory has been debunked, the reason being it was a right front and right rear exit wound fron Kennedy's head. Greer was the only one who had the shot to deliver that wound, it couldn't have come from the grassy knoll. Wrong angles.

Finally some people thinking right after 9 months of posting on boards.

Simple geometry excludes the picket fence on the north side of elm street.

Does it also exclude the sewer drain?. Better angle?.

I told this one poster to dig a hole, stand in it and get back to me.LOL The driver firing the fatal shot excludes all other known theories and new ones.

7forever, Will we ever find out? or will the US Government ever tell us?.

Great research and breakdown of the frames.

It would be too much of a coincidence for me to believe that a "random reflection" would be move into position and aim directly at the front of Kennedy's head as impact takes place, then the "reflection" recoils,....all while Greer's body positioning and motions are in perfect sequence with these. That's no reflection from the guy's head.

Bill Cooper was right. Greer shot Kennedy inside the car.

Even though Jackie was not looking when the shot from inside the car was fired, it makes me wonder how she couldn't have been in on the conspiracy and coverup. That shot was fired from less than 10 feet away from her.

because when the third shot was fired I

Originally posted by shasta9600
Great research and breakdown of the frames.

It would be too much of a coincidence for me to believe that a "random reflection" would be move into position and aim directly at the front of Kennedy's head as impact takes place, then the "reflection" recoils,....all while Greer's body positioning and motions are in perfect sequence with these. That's no reflection from the guy's head.

Bill Cooper was right. Greer shot Kennedy inside the car.

Even though Jackie was not looking when the shot from inside the car was fired, it makes me wonder how she couldn't have been in on the conspiracy and coverup. That shot was fired from less than 10 feet away from her.

Connally was turning to his left during Greer's last turn to shoot Kennedy and saw the gun in his hand before he could pull the gun back down. CONCLUSIVE CORROBORATION from the man who knew exactly what happened. OOPS!!!

Governor CONNALLY. Well, first, again I assume the bullet was traveling faster than the sound. I was hit by the bullet prior to the time the sound reached me, and I was in either a state of shock or the impact was such that the sound didn't even register on me, but I was never conscious of hearing the second shot at all.
Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.

Connally said he saw the third shot and quickly corrected himself but the film and his reaction proves he saw Greer's gun before he pulled it down. He freaked in horror and hit the floor.