The ETE interveiw footage, what to make of it? **Image Update**

As I am sure many of you have seen the so-called "Smoking-Gun" footage of an alien being interveiwed in a base (supposedly area 51). For those that havn't seen it, theres links here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.crowdedskies.com...

The footage was puposedly smuggled out of area 51 by a man that will only let himself be known by the alias "Victor". All of the people that have come in contact with victor have said that he is a very cautious, sensible, and fearfull man. And if what he claims is true, he has a damn good reason to be.

The tape is stript of all audio to protect the identities of the interveiwer and victor.

Many people have commented on the authenticity of the film. The film has already been analysed to see if it contains any digital manipulation, and to-date all analysis has ruled out digital manipulation of the film. Victor claims that the interveiw was recorded onto video tape, and not film. Some analysists have commented on the video screens in the background of the footage not reacting as screen captured on video tape are (they should appear to flicker) however due to the poor light-levels on the footage, this argument can be ruled out.

Victor commented on the fact that the light levels in the room are very poor, giving the excuse that the lights have to be turned down as to keep the aliens comfortable. Throughout the footage the alien looks at best "sick", it constantly lets its head waver, it coughs and eventually colapses, medical assistents rush to the aid of the creature and appear to check its throat and eyes for signs of irritation to the throat, and any signs of brain hemmoraging.

Hollywood special effects artists have had a look at the film, some commentings on the professionalism of the aliens appearence, others commenting "we could make better" both agree that some of the movements are very hard to recreate using todays methods of artificial movement creation.

The code on the bottom of the film shows the 3 letter acronymn DNI, synonenmous with the department of navel intelligence the group reseponsable with control of area 51.

When asked whether the alien was still alive Victor commented "I'm not sure, but I know it was retired from the interview process.".

The truth is I could bang on about this all day, but im too tired. The footage is certainly very eeiry. but to be honest I dont know what to think. Anyone care to try and shed some light on what they make of all this?


[Edited on 4-1-04 by BruceAkolD]

Personally, I'm inclined to think it's a fake. Granted, I've only seen the 52 second long "internet" version, so maybe I'm missing the best or most convincing parts, I don't know. I suppose I have to BUY the full version to see the whole thing...seems kinda suspicious.

Anyway, I just watched it again, and MOST of the footage (that I have) is while the the 'doctors' are inspecting it, so the creature is moving very little and is obscured by the men around it.
Also, I find the lighting very "convienient" (read: awful). You never see the creature's legs or lower torso. Just the head and upper torso appear to be visible, and the movements look very controlled, almost robotic; with very purposeful head movements.
Another thing is that this video is sold online and at video stores, so a definite profit is being made through all of this, giving another good reason for it to be a hoax.

Anyway, I'm no expert, but like all of these "Alien" films, it lacks any content to make you go "Wow!", ya know? The shadiness and "bits and pieces" effect is a great tactic of hoaxers. Give you just enough to make you think about it, but nowhere near enough for conclusive proof that it's eaither real or faked.
My final verdict: Inconclusive, likely faked.

I think it is very possibly real. I think the problem is that it is so spectacular that it is difficult to believe.

its a fake, seen it before and i must say its abit # aswell

Originally posted by maynardsthirdeye
I think it is very possibly real. I think the problem is that it is so spectacular that it is difficult to believe.

How is it spectacular? "Spectacular" would be seeing it stand and walk, or seeing the entire body in motion somehow, something VERY hard to fake.
But all you see is a generic alien head move slightly. Not exactly something it would take Industrial Light and Magic to do.

I will say it is kinda creepy when you first see it. I remember when I first downloaded it, it was late at night and I was all by myself. It creeped me out.

Creep me out a whole load aswell.

I admit that its movements do look robotic, but we cant assume thats how the alien is not ment to move, we cant comment on a biological entity we know nothing about.

My biggest problems with the footage are number 1 the lighting and number 2 the absolute seemingly stupidity of the doctors.

The lighting is a huge problem for many people, if you wanted to hide any robotic apperatus it would be most convenient if you toned the light levels down. But when you consider that most alien encounters happen at night, victors excuse of low light levels to make the alien comfortable seem more plausible.

As for the doctors unprofessionalism, Victor comments that they work at area 51 because of there ability to keep there mouths shut and not for there skills.

I still dont know what to make of the footage, I beleive that Victor is telling the truth based on what he thinks he knows, he could be being manipulated by some unseen orginisation.

But hell if it would have been me that got the tape, I would have made some profit from it.

Its FAKE i have tons of video, i have been collecting theys videos for a cubble of years.

Its a puppit. A group on some scifi show showed this to a puppitteer witch said he was sure it was a puppit do to its head movment.

Also if therys videos were real, why soo short? if you can sneek out a hole VHS tape or even a cd 1 vcd can hold like 35 mins of mpeg video.

Originally posted by BruceAkolD
Creep me out a whole load aswell.

I admit that its movements do look robotic, but we cant assume thats how the alien is not ment to move, we cant comment on a biological entity we know nothing about.

My biggest problems with the footage are number 1 the lighting and number 2 the absolute seemingly stupidity of the doctors.

The lighting is a huge problem for many people, if you wanted to hide any robotic apperatus it would be most convenient if you toned the light levels down. But when you consider that most alien encounters happen at night, victors excuse of low light levels to make the alien comfortable seem more plausible.

As for the doctors unprofessionalism, Victor comments that they work at area 51 because of there ability to keep there mouths shut and not for there skills.

I still dont know what to make of the footage, I beleive that Victor is telling the truth based on what he thinks he knows, he could be being manipulated by some unseen orginisation.

But hell if it would have been me that got the tape, I would have made some profit from it.

I'm not saying it's impossible that its a real alien. I suppose you could say if it was real, those huge eyes the Alien has are very sensitive to light, so they have to keep it dim. Who knows? I suppose anything is possible.

I'm just saying that that video isn't conclusive, or too compelling either. It could be real I guess, but I think it's going to take alot more evidence to prove it to me. Right now, it would just be too easy to fake something like this if you have some background in SFX. If you saw more of the Alien, or if there was more movement or even audio, that would help alot. But right now, it's hard to think of it as anything more than a decent model.

I think this definetly has to be one of the most creepy (and perhaps believable) parts of the whole video.




I took a screenshot of this while watching it. It's at the very end of the video, after the "doctors" have left.
What's slightly more impressive about it is that you can definetly make out what appears to be a body. I made a little arrow pointing to it since the pic isn't very clear, but it's more noticeable in the actual video itself. You can clearly see the shoulders, and can make out a torso and what look like very thin arms.

Still doesn't do much to change my mind, but I thought it was interesting enough to post here and see what everyone else thought.

Its FAKE i have tons of video, i have been collecting theys videos for a cubble of years.

Its a puppit. A group on some scifi show showed this to a puppitteer witch said he was sure it was a puppit do to its head movment.

Also if therys videos were real, why soo short? if you can sneek out a hole VHS tape or even a cd 1 vcd can hold like 35 mins of mpeg video.

Appearently the footage is only part of a series some 35 volumes. The length is not the biggest issue here.

Once again I'm saying that I am not supporting opinion that it is real I am just offering veiws to why we shouldn't put it down so fast. The conspiricy community has been hit by hoaxes so many times and its destroyed are ability to beleive or to see what we're searching for could be right infront of us. The truth is that its easier to not believe and continue our journey then to beleive and have our world turned upside down on us.

Dm soldier, you say its fake then talk about how many videos you have, what the hell has that got to do with it. I'v got aload of James Bonds that doesn't mean I know everything about that subject.

The fact that some puppittier has said its a puppet because of its head movements does not really completly make the film instantly fake. One mans opinion (who could be a proffessional - I dont know). Can not put down the opinion of Other SFX artist, digital footage experts and people with a history of performing interrogation, all of which say that this footage would be damn hard to fake.

Another group of people have commented on this footage, people that have had CE3's or close encounters of the 3rd kind. One man commented "I cant beleive this, if it is fake, someone knows something about the way they move." Another women went into shock veiwing the footage, screaming "its them, its them!".

Again I say that it is unfortunate that the footage was stript of audio, but victor had a point, is he's trying to protect someones Identity and all you can hear is there voice it would make sence to strip the footage of sound.

I agree that veiwing more of the alien would help determine whether it is real or false. But I cant agree with you Sevenzeroone when you state the need for movement. If in the footage the alien got up and walked around, it would almost prove the footage was false, Becase in a proper interveiw/interrogation there is no need to just get up and walk around.

This footage is both baffling and questionable at the same time

Bruce, what are your sorcses ?

like you saw this on a alien show on tv, or read what the contaktee's said? Becouse i would realy like to see that.

Do you know were to get theys other 35 videos? (i think you mean video's)

Now, I realy havnt seen you post before, but i have been one saying that there have been too many sightings of "aleins" for them all to be fake.

Now, theys people that said "thats the way it moves" did they discribe how they moved before they saw the video?

Please i realy want to know they name of the show you saw that on or websites.

Yes, it could be staring us right in our face, becouse we just dismet it as hoax.

A few observations.

1) Thats a some pretty lame quality video considering for $2,000 you can get a digital video camera that is leagues above that in clarity.

2) The room is dark. Why work in the dark? Cause the "Alien" is light sensative? Then why shine flashlights in his eyes. Flourecent lights are WAY less harsh then a flashlight in the eye.

3) Why do those look like TV doctors? One of them is wearing short sleeves which makes wearing gloves and mask pointless since the human arm can transmit contaminats as easy as the hanrds can.

also i was wondering why it dint close its eyes do to the bright light, unless it sees in a diffrent light ray

Originally posted by BruceAkolD

But I cant agree with you Sevenzeroone when you state the need for movement. If in the footage the alien got up and walked around, it would almost prove the footage was false, Becase in a proper interveiw/interrogation there is no need to just get up and walk around.

This footage is both baffling and questionable at the same time

Once again, thats NOT what I was talking about at all.

I realize that movement wouldn't be probable in such a circumstance.
My point was, the video is inconclusive at best. The only way we're going to have compelling evidence or proof that it is not a hoax, is when we are actually presented with a video where you see more than just a head move slightly.
Since that does NOT happen in this video, the best it can do is raise an eyebrow here and there. Could it still be real? Sure. Is there much reason or evidence to suggest it's real? Not really.

Again, this video doesn't show anything conclusive, and while I'm not faulting it for that, per se, it nevertheless does NOT provide enough to really turn any heads.

BruceAkolD, ya want my opinion?

I saw the video on tv when it was aired and it creeped me out. It's a real entity.

Whether or not it's an ET or a genetically created biological entity is beyond me .

I also have a VHS video of the Alien Autopsy. It's a female, you can clearly see the genital region.

It has 6 fingers and 6 toes.

The large black eyes were actually like lense covers or large contact lenses covering the entire eyes.

I believe it was also a real entity, but looked more like a human/hybrid than the other video.

Originally posted by PuPP
BruceAkolD, ya want my opinion?

I saw the video on tv when it was aired and it creeped me out. It's a real entity.

Whether or not it's an ET or a genetically created biological entity is beyond me .

I also have a VHS video of the Alien Autopsy. It's a female, you can clearly see the genital region.

It has 6 fingers and 6 toes.

The large black eyes were actually like lense covers or large contact lenses covering the entire eyes.

I believe it was also a real entity, but looked more like a human/hybrid than the other video.

Um...you do realize that whole "Alien Autospy" was all but proven to be a hoax, right?

pupp, check this out about the alien autopsy: www.trudang.com...

[Edited on 1/4/2004 by DiabolusFireDragon]

I think this picture says it all:

www.castleofspirits.com...

Other good links:

www.csicop.org...
www.eonline.com...

I have seen documentaries on the Alien Autopsy video and I already said I have the VHS tape.

I believe it is real.

The debunkers can cry hoax all they wish. It will never change my opinion of what I saw.

Remember, you cannot change the mind of a believer.

Though you can influence other weak minds that may be reading your words.

I like the pic of the guy kissing the latex dummy.

Head looks much smaller though than in the video.

Thanks for the laugh. I needed a chuckle.