Rapper: I Wouldn't Help Police Catch A Serial Killer

Originally posted by truthseeka


I am a black male. Cops kill black males quite often, EVEN when they're unarmed. A cop could kill me, unarmed, if he wanted to, and chances are great that he would be "justified" in killing me and would not be punished. I've had a cop shove a gun in my face before. I avoid encounters with pigs as much as possible.

This is not about a staring contest. I had a staring contest, eye to gun. I blinked IMMEDIATELY and put my hands up; next time I blink, I might get shot i

I just want to add that not only would you be unarmed and it be justified but it could be caught on tape. But we all know how video tapes 'dont show the whole story' (OFFICER:well judge sure i hit him 30 times with the baton, doused him in pepperspray, and shot him 39 times, but the tape doesnt show you that he flicked me off JUDGE; your right, NOT GUILTY)

All i know is that in my encounters with the police i make sure to state loud and clear what i am going to do b4 i do it, and repeat what the tell me do. Because heaven forbid you reach for your ID and they see this mysterious flash ..they start shooting only to realize it was the sun reflection off of your cross.

Man, I hate Cam'Ron. Please do not put all "rappers" in the same catgory. I rap and make albums.songs. On my own, indipendantly. It's because of rappers like Cam, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, etc....Hip Hop Music is catagorized as "Gangsta Music" . It's marketed this way to make a buck. Alot of bucks actually, and these heartless rappers follow suit. What is played on the radio is not considered Hip Hop music by people like myself. That's just bad pop music, it has no substance and is about as respectable as a Britney Spears album. there is good Hip Hop music out there, I won't plug any of my own stuff,,lol,,but there are emcees like: Immortal Technique, Public Enemy, Jedi Mind Tricks, DE LA Soul, etc that are makin thought provokin music and just havin fun wit it. So in closing,,(LOL),,,# Cam'Ron and these fake tough guys.

I do not understand why people would let pimps, gangsters and drugpushers drag their neighborhoods down and not call the police about it. Don't people realize that these people are taking advantage of them and steering their children to a life of crime and ignorance and potential prison time? Do you see white people selling drugs in black neighborhoods? No black drug dealers are selling drugs to black children and black mothers turn their backs on it.

And to top it all of rappers glorify it all. It is glamorous to enslave, demean,kill, and rape your own people.

if you like rap you should listen to 'trouble everyday' by zappa. (actually it came out under mothers of invention...the album is called freak out)...it is 'arguably' the first rap song...1965.


there are amny versions so if you are a dl'er, you might not get the original....anyway, thats rap with a message

speaking of cam ron...

From today's Toronto Star:

After the hearing, Steele's lawyer, Selwyn Pieters, defended his client's reluctance to testify, saying it has "nothing to do with the rap culture." Police and prison officials also obey the "no ratting" rule," he said. "It happens in every single group where there is a subculture, a cohesive group of people."

Christian Pearce, editor of the hip hop magazine Pound, said the "stop snitchin'" debate is typical since it's the negative aspects of hip hop that tend to get the biggest play in the media.

He pointed to Wise Intelligent's blog, where the rapper discusses a 60 Minutes anti-snitching segment that aired last weekend. Rapper Cam'Ron was interviewed saying he'd rather move than tell police if he knew his neighbour was a serial killer.

The blogger writes the CBS newsmagazine creates the impression that "Cam'Ron and other black youth in America's inner cities are the originators of this "code of silence" concept.

"It also gives off the misguided and completely false impression that this `code of silence' or `street code of ethics' is a precept or principle of hip hop culture and the black community in general."

Source

An interesting read.

Originally posted by intrepid

After the hearing, Steele's lawyer, Selwyn Pieters, defended his client's reluctance to testify, saying it has "nothing to do with the rap culture." Police and prison officials also obeythe "no ratting" rule," he said. "It happens in every single group where there is a subculture, a cohesive group of people."

That was the best part, and its so true

[edit on 4/26/2007 by ImpliedChaos]

Excellent point intrepid (and te originators of the article)

What about the police code of not snitching on fellow officers? Are they just as bad? Are they corrupting the youth?

I think we've all seen that episode of the Brady Bunch. You know the one I mean.

Originally posted by Rasobasi420


I think we've all seen that episode of the Brady Bunch. You know the one I mean.

OMG i have no idea what ur talking about but the fact that is somehow referenced on the Brady Bunch is just hilarious

[edit on 4/26/2007 by ImpliedChaos]

My Opinion

Loose lips sink ships you know.

Would you like to associate with someone who tells other people everything

all the time?

And all those rappers that the one guy mentioned in my opinion have no

flow, and those "wanna be tough guy rappers" seem to have the talent.

So remember Snitching it not cool.

My opinion

for the record, calling the cops and saying you know your neighbor just stoled a tv from best buy is snitching....calling the cops to alert them to say, the green river killer or the night stalker living next door is not quite the same thing and you all friggin know it.

just stop trying to play that game with the 'street code of ethics' crap.

i'm not from 'the streets' but it was rough enough. i'm smart enough to know that 'you didn't see anything' or you were 'in the bathroom' cause hell, who wants to get leaned on, interviewed, possibly taped and possibly put on the stand?
not me

that said, jeffry dahmer is living next door, i'm phoning it in...

this dude is an ass

Funny, Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbor did phone it in....


Nothing happened. As a matter of fact, the cops escorted Dahmer's victim right back into his house.

So good luck with that.

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Funny, Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbor did phone it in....


Nothing happened. As a matter of fact, the cops escorted Dahmer's victim right back into his house.

So good luck with that.

you're right...they sure did..that means when/if we find out the night stalker is living next door, a person that has been murdering and terrorizing people that we shouldn't alert someone cause 15 years ago some dumb ass cops escorted one of dahmers vitims back up?

thats retarded. this entire argument fot hsi code of the street/snitching thing is retarded. people are trying to take it to the max.
when you think don't snitch it's don't tell on so and so for stealing something or whatever...you now what i mean...

you start getting into serial killers and all that...it's absolutely asinine to say you would keep your mouth shut cause the 'code of the street'..


you know, saying you don't know who started the fight when you really do is keeping your mouth shut. living by 'the code'....not telling them a friggin serial killer is next door is just retarded......sorry if you don't agree

Score one for Ras. Bet THAT one caught you off guard, Boondock.

I'm still with Cam. If a killer lived next door to me, I would move instead of calling the po pos. Hell, if they actually did their jobs, a serial killer wouldn't move next door to me in the first place.

SNOP SNITCHIN'!!! (=the Blue Wall of Silence for the po pos)

Originally posted by shots
I cannot believe I this. Haven't rappers got any morals?

Why does a personal statement from one rapper lead to the moral problem of rappers?

Originally posted by truthseeka
Score one for Ras. Bet THAT one caught you off guard, Boondock.

I'm still with Cam. If a killer lived next door to me, I would move instead of calling the po pos. Hell, if they actually did their jobs, a serial killer wouldn't move next door to me in the first place.

SNOP SNITCHIN'!!! (=the Blue Wall of Silence for the po pos)

not really. my point is just as valid...i'm not into the whole internet "ownage" thing or whatever it is you cool guys do.
i'd even go so far as to say a lot of you guys are simply talking junk, just like this rapper.

i don't beleive for one second that if you knew there was some serial killer in there cutting dudes up in his garage, you'd 'just move'...thats all.

i mean, cause you can move in a day right..never mind putting your house on the market and all that...that could take a year easy...so that whole time your're just gonna be 'la la la', there is a serial killer next to me and i don't care.....?
please

as i said before, i am no fan of the police for my own reasons BUT, telling the cops about a serial killer/spree murder/pedophile/rapist is not what i would call 'snitching'..it's called being a decent human and getting those people off the streets.

if i knew, hel, if i watched my neigbor carry a new 60 inch tv in their house in a best buy box and then 5 minutes later the cops came to my door and said they think the people across the way just jacked a tv, "did you see anything"?..i'd say nope(thats if i even answered the door).

we're talking serial killers here.
i was cought off guard cause the cops walked one of dahmers victims back up to his apartment? i don't think so

if you want to get technical about it

en.wikipedia.org...

One of Dahmer's victims escaped, only to be returned to him by police. When it was later publicized, there was widespread condemnation of the officers. In the early morning hours of May 27, 1991, 14-year-old Milwaukee Laotian Konerak Sinthasomphone was discovered on the street, wandering nude. Reports of the boy's injuries varied. Dahmer told police that they had an argument while drinking, and that Sinthasomphone was his 19 year-old lover
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now, that is not the same as someone calling the police to alert them to a serial killer.....and then we have....dun dun dun



On July 22, 1991, Dahmer lured another man, Tracy[3] (Traci[4]) Edwards, into his home. According to the would-be victim, Dahmer struggled with Edwards in order to handcuff him. Edwards escaped and alerted a police car, with the handcuffs still hanging from one hand.

Edwards led police back to Dahmer's apartment, where Dahmer at first acted friendly to the officers, only to turn on them when he realized that the officers suspected something was wrong. As one officer subdued Dahmer, the other searched the house and uncovered multiple photographs of murdered victims and human remains including three severed heads. A further search of the house revealed more evidence, including photographs of victims and human remains in his refrigerator.

[/yawn]

please just admit there is a diufference between that stupid ass code of 'snitching' and alerting the law to a serial killer.....i mean if you can't seperate the two then, WOW is all i can say

[edit on 27-4-2007 by Boondock78]

[edit on 27-4-2007 by Boondock78]

The point of the Dahmer case (which you obviously missed) is that 1) the police one way or the other were alerted to an incident at Dahmers house 2) They saw a young black man covered in blood with handcuffs on who ran into the street naked 3)After listening ONLY do dahmers side they returned the boy to him (this may have been due to a language barrier) 4) That you man was later murdered. They should have taken him to the station to sort out the situation but no if you listen to the tape you can hear the offiers laughing in the background as they explained to dispatch that it was a'lover's quarrel' If the victim had been a white girl in the same situation they would not have returned her. The point is why call the the police when they obviously wont put in the effort to figure out the situation nor save your life.

Originally posted by ImpliedChaos
The point of the Dahmer case (which you obviously missed) is that 1) the police one way or the other were alerted to an incident at Dahmers house 2) They saw a young black man covered in blood with handcuffs on who ran into the street naked 3)After listening ONLY do dahmers side they returned the boy to him (this may have been due to a language barrier) 4) That you man was later murdered. They should have taken him to the station to sort out the situation but no if you listen to the tape you can hear the offiers laughing in the background as they explained to dispatch that it was a'lover's quarrel' If the victim had been a white girl in the same situation they would not have returned her. The point is why call the the police when they obviously wont put in the effort to figure out the situation nor save your life.

i think the point you missed is not ALL cops are like this...i think you know this...i also subscribe to the theory that you can't rely on a cop to save your life...matter of fact i know it to be true. when i was 7 my house was broken into and my parents almost killed. i watched it....cops took their time getting their..
all that has little to do with alerting the cops to a serial killer living next door.
keep tossing up they won't do anything all you want...thing is, you don't know that and you guys are all trying to make up these lame excuses..

can you agree that ratting on someone for say taking a tv or something is more along the lines of 'snitching' than calling the cops to alert them to a serial murderer????
if you can't or won't acknowledge that, there really is no point in trying to argue it with you.



edit* i like this too
en.wikipedia.org...

n the early morning of Sunday, October 23, 2005, Cam'ron was shot in the arms three times after a botched carjacking in Washington, D.C.[9] He was leaving a popular nightclub after performing earlier Saturday at Howard University and stopped at a traffic light at the intersection of Kenyon and Warder streets in Northwest D.C. Shortly after midnight, a passenger of a nearby car threatened Cam'ron to "give up" his 2006 Lamborghini. Cam'ron resisted and the gunman then shot him. Three bullets struck him as he held the steering wheel, [B]but he was able to drive himself around going the wrong way on streets and flashing his lights, trying to get a police officer's attention because he didn't know where he was or how to get to the hospital, until a fan finally drove him to Howard University Hospital for treatment.[/B] He caught a plane back home the next day.

The gunman and passenger sped off in and crashed into a parked car and a home and then fled the scene. D.C. Metro Police also recovered a cell phone from the scene of the crash, which they are trying to use to trace the suspects.

[B]Cam'ron refused to give police information about the suspect because he claimed it would hurt his business and violate his "Code Of Ethics[/B]

bwuahahahahahahah

he didn't want to taint his 'street cred' by giving them info to find the guy, but he sure don't mind trying to flag the cops down to help him find a hospital....
what a turd
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Cam'ron achieved notoriety for his 2001 release from Sony Records under Tommy Mottola. Reportedly using unconventional methods such as physically assaulting and threatening numerous Sony Records employees
---street cred yo^^^



[edit on 27-4-2007 by Boondock78]

Originally posted by frenzy_boy

Originally posted by shots
I cannot believe I this. Haven't rappers got any morals?

Why does a personal statement from one rapper lead to the moral problem of rappers?

Because it happened with other rappers as well. The stop snitching campain is good example. This is not limited to just him alone.

Originally posted by shots

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Please don't use one man to quantify all rappers. It's like saying "Haven't asian people got any morals" in response to the VT thing.

Excuse me since when are all rapper white? Also did I mention any race? No I did not you assumed I meant it as a dig towards one culture when I did not,

[edit on 4/19/2007 by shots]

There is still the stereotyping which is what bigotry is based on.