Einstein was right: space and time bend

Originally posted by iori_komei

Originally posted by menguard
Like a tide, everthing moves in and out of itself, when a star goes supernovea it goes critical mass.Black holes collect things that are no longer needed in the Univerese, a hole with atomic mass to it.They are the trash compacters of the Universe.

A star does not neccessarily turn into a black hole when it goes nova,
it can also turn into a neutron star.

Consciousness has the ability to define any circumstance.There are a lot of things in "existance" that seem they have no awareness of its surroundings, but not always the case.

[edit on 16-4-2007 by menguard]

our sun is the worng type of star to form into a black hole isnt it???

Back on topic....I've always wondered why galaxies seem so freaken' bright at the center! And I wasn't aware that it was being speculated. I thought the science community confirmed what lies at the center of most galaxies. I know on a clear night, because our solar system is not too far from the outer ends of the galaxy you can peer into the center of our galaxy and see that goobe of light. It freaks me out 4 real.

Originally posted by cav01c14
our sun is the worng type of star to form into a black hole isnt it???

Actually, any star is the right type of star. All stars go supernova after the Red Giant phase. From where it goes after Supernova is an entirely different story. It can either stay supernova and emit cosmic rays or at can go neutron star or black hole.

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Originally posted by cav01c14
our sun is the worng type of star to form into a black hole isnt it???

Well it's the wrong size, the stars composition is not the deciding factor
in what it becomes, rather its overal mass.

Our sun is not massive enough to turn into a black hole.

Our sun isn't in the Red Giant phase yet so it has not gone through the necessary mass growth. It is still burning hydrogen atoms, next is helium until eventually all that's left is iron. This of course refers to the fuel.

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Our Sun will never supernova or turn into a black hole. it will suffer the indignity of becoming a white dwarf

On the right of the illustration is the life cycle of a massive star (10 times or more the size of our Sun). Like low-mass stars, high-mass stars are born in nebulae and evolve and live in the Main Sequence. However, their life cycles start to differ after the red giant phase. A massive star will undergo a supernova explosion. If the remnant of the explosion is 1.4 to about 3 times as massive as our Sun, it will become a neutron star. The core of a massive star that has more than roughly 3 times the mass of our Sun after the explosion will do something quite different. The force of gravity overcomes the nuclear forces which keep protons and neutrons from combining. The core is thus swallowed by its own gravity. It has now become a black hole which readily attracts any matter and energy that comes near it. What happens between the red giant phase and the supernova explosion is described below.

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Originally posted by shrunkensimon
Edisons DC current was never going to get anywhere, because it is very inefficient at being transmitted over distance. If Tesla hadn't challenged Edisons DC current, we could well have ended up with power stations on every block.

Wasn't that the business competition between Edison and Westinghouse?

Galaxies are bright in the center because there is a higher concentration of stars near the center. There is more energy towards the center of a galaxy.

Actually the idea of having a small station every other block or so would not be that bad of an idea. Ive been in 4 hurricanes in the past 3 years due to the type of work i do and having the grid the way it is now really sucks, ask anyone thats had to live 6 weeks without electricity.
That or just bury all the damn power lines and get them off the damn poles.

Originally posted by roadgravel

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
Edisons DC current was never going to get anywhere, because it is very inefficient at being transmitted over distance. If Tesla hadn't challenged Edisons DC current, we could well have ended up with power stations on every block.

Wasn't that the business competition between Edison and Westinghouse?

Well didn't we already prove his theory with the observations with black wholes?

Originally posted by iori_komei

Well think of it like this, space-time is a large sheet, now imagine the planets, stars and other astronomical phenomenon as balls, now when you put a ball on the sheet, the sheet is depressed under the ball.

That's the best explanation I can give, but basically there would'nt be any time travelish effects.

Actually, there is; was predicted (by Einsten['s Twin Paradox]) even. Time and space are interconnected [one and the same?] ie, if one is bent so is the other.

Time Dilation. Also see: experiments which confirm time dilation

Not the sci-fi type time travel, but none-the-less.

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Great Link! Thanks

Regards.

Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Yeah, the center of the universe is suspected to be a giant super massive blackhole. Although for some unknown reason galaxies tend to fly away from it instead of get closer.

It's believed (theorized) that all galaxies have at their center a super-massive black hole [SBHs.] We (Sol/Earth's solar system) are in orbit around the center of the MilkyWay just as Earth orbits the Sun (ie, we're not "flying away from it"). The expansion happens in the deep space inbetween galaxies, that are not close/massive enough to another galaxy (note: Our "Local Group of Galaxies" are not racing away from one another but everything else instead.) There is no center to the universe.

(edit)spelling; emphasis.

[edit on 17-4-2007 by Rren]

Originally posted by menguard

Originally posted by iori_komei

Originally posted by menguard
Like a tide, everthing moves in and out of itself, when a star goes supernovea it goes critical mass.Black holes collect things that are no longer needed in the Univerese, a hole with atomic mass to it.They are the trash compacters of the Universe.

A star does not neccessarily turn into a black hole when it goes nova,
it can also turn into a neutron star.

Consciousness has the ability to define any circumstance.There are a lot of things in "existance" that seem they have no awareness of its surroundings, but not always the case.

[edit on 16-4-2007 by menguard]

It can also have the potential of a Quasar.

Originally posted by shrunkensimon

I beg to differ. Tesla did give us electricity. Edisons DC current was never going to get anywhere, because it is very inefficient at being transmitted over distance.

I also beg to differ. DC current is just as useful as AC.. Look at the things that use it.. mobile phones, numerous hand-held devices from remote controls to torches and PDAs, cars, cameras, PC's.. these are just a few of the things I can think of that require DC to work as they do. I'll bet even the gravity B probe would not have even been possible without DC !

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
I beg to differ. Tesla did give us electricity.

Does the name Michael Faraday mean anything to you?

Or if not, how about the name Benjamin Franklin?

Why is the Science and Technology forum so full of drivel these days?

Indeed.
Tesseract

Silly, no one INVENTED electricity, only advancement and strives have been made in the field. No one gave it to us either, it was always there to begin with.

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time can be bent because in 1971 we did it.

Two atomic clocks were set off at the same time, down to the nano second. Clock 1 was placed in an areoplane and set off round the world for 80 hours, clock two was placed on the ground and left, after 80 hours of travel the two clocks were stopped at the same time. The clock that had been up in the air was 34 nano-seconds faster then the one on the ground.

sorry if some one already posted that.

Originally posted by Rren

Originally posted by iori_komei

Well think of it like this, space-time is a large sheet, now imagine the planets, stars and other astronomical phenomenon as balls, now when you put a ball on the sheet, the sheet is depressed under the ball.

That's the best explanation I can give, but basically there would'nt be any time travelish effects.

Actually, there is; was predicted (by Einsten['s Twin Paradox]) even. Time and space are interconnected [one and the same?] ie, if one is bent so is the other.

Time Dilation. Also see: experiments which confirm time dilation

Not the sci-fi type time travel, but none-the-less.

TechNovelgy.com, they report on scientific and technological developments the entire work-week.[/url]

Great Link! Thanks

Regards.

What if you could "pinch" that space/time continuum with a sufficient exchange of matter to energy and energy back to matter?

Then, suppose, at the point at which the pinching occurs, a vehicle or pod or anything that is made of sufficiently durable material, spans the gap that was made in that pinching??

I believe that would provide someone with a means of as fast as (or possibly faster than) light travel.

Someone check my theory on that one.