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Originally posted by Columbus
You're right. This game is too fun. I can't help it. At least it's good learning material for the kiddies.
Originally posted by Columbus
When you apply the brakes on your car, it just stops. It doesn't require some mysterious, unreliable agency.
Originally posted by Columbus
Exactly what exposes Second Death as a brainwashing tool and nothing more.
Originally posted by Columbus
Help me, Snake Oil! You're my Only Hope!
Originally posted by Columbus
Why chalk up to Free Will what is owned by knowledge?
Originally posted by Columbus
One in hell and the other before GOD.
As if there was a difference.
Originally posted by WiseSheep
Funny you should say that, when you speak their language.
The sun is made to rise on the just and on the unjust.
It's rather deceiving unless one understands it.
That's why wickedness is allowed. That's why the wicked can curse and deny GOD and still be blessed. He's giving them their chance to change. That chance is not eternal. This age will end.
He that is forgiven of the most, loves the most.
There is a way that seems right [and wrong] to man, but the end is death.
Yes it is.
The heaven and earth were created. The earth was covered in water. The water was divided. The water underneath was made into the sea, the water above was made into the heaven.
At the time of the flood, the windows of the heaven were opened.
Yes it is. Read it.
How does one know a swine, unless he first gives him a few pearls to trample?
We'll let those who have eyes to see and an ear to hear, determine that.
If I did, I wouldn't be wasting time here.
Drive at 100MPH toward a solid wall and believe in the wall. Also believe in how deadly it would be to hit the wall. Then believe in being saved from hitting the wall. Then believe in the brakes that can save you.
Believe in the brakes, but don't use them and see what happens.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Maybe you missed all of this or felt it was unimportant, so you picked and chose what you wanted to respond to. Look silly replying to these inconsistencies.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
How did you know? Are you fluent in demon too?! Zeebok goobok leeder bork mopoy gezoik!
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
The sun is made to rise on the just and on the unjust.
Actually the sun doesn't rise or set at all. The earth merely revolves on its own axis.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
It's rather deceiving unless one understands it.
Well, you proved that.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
That's why wickedness is allowed. That's why the wicked can curse and deny GOD and still be blessed. He's giving them their chance to change. That chance is not eternal. This age will end.
*Looks out side at the beauty around and abound, takes a deep breath and smiles*
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
He that is forgiven of the most, loves the most.
For give... for-give... forgive. For giving. What are you for giving? Oh that's right, you are for giving people of their demonizations and damnations, eternal sufferings and beatings in the lake of fire. Hello... Sata... no, I must be mistaken, he's not real.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
There is a way that seems right [and wrong] to man, but the end is death.
Well buddy, death is an issue life will always have to deal with. If you want to live, expect to die. It may not be pleasant for all, but it's the hard facts. Enjoy it while you're here.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Actually it's not, go look up our first two original statements about it. You have twisted it to fit your dogmatic agenda.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Oh gosh. So where was God before Heaven? So, are you going by the Hebrew definition of Heaven? The atmosphere between the top of the sea and the bottom of the clouds? If that's the case, then where is eternal life?! It can't be in... Heaven, could it?
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
At the time of the flood, the windows of the heaven were opened.
So, if Heaven is up in the sky now... then where is this eternal life in Heaven at? Does that mean hell is in the center of the Earth?! Wait, do we literally live in the sky for eternity?! Amazing stuff here, you should submit it to a scientific research facility for study and examination.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Really? Is this the same flood that coincides with every other religion?
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Yes it is. Read it.
Have many times...
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Well you see, pigs don't care about such petty material values like Humans do. They value each other and they are thank full for their food. They are just happy to be alive.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
We'll let those who have eyes to see and an ear to hear, determine that.
*touches his eyes and his ears* ... *looks around confused*...
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Wasting time... wasting time... hm... makes me feel so special to be going to heaven with you.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
I mean you're basically setting your self up for death.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Believe in the brakes, but don't use them and see what happens.
Well, duh. This is a no brainer (almost), you'd die.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Oh really, and how would that be? By bringing the sowrd and not peace and dividing us amongst our very families. He sure has a strange way of conducting salvation.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
The world only knows it's condemned in light of the law. In light of the law we are all guilty. All equal.
And also not guilty, and not equal. Through our differences we find our similarities, our differences are our equalities.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
The reasoning behind preaching the gospel is to show the condemned that they are condemned and there is a means for salvation. The only means. Jesus Christ. Also to do whatever one can to help them understand where it is the condemned go.
Okay, so we're all condemned and above you say where the condemned go. So we're all going to hell is your implication.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Okay, well let the Jesus that you worship know that I deny that message, yet accept him because I am obviously acknowledging him. Hope fully it doesn't confuse him as much as it does you.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Then the end comes. For some that means eternal shame and contempt. To others that means eternal life.
Both are eternal life.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Okay, then as stated above: why are you condemning that which is already condemned?
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
If you know it is impossible then why in God's name are you doing it? You make absolutely no sense... and I apologize for showing you who you are and how you act, but you need a mirror.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
And no, I am not changing.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Well, the eternal dead are the same as the eternal live.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
One can not experience life and one can not experience death. In essence neither of them know what Existing is all about. That which is dead can not be killed: Jesus/God. That which is eternally alive, can not be killed : Jesus/God. Jesus/God = eternal cycle of life and death = eternal energy.
On the same note, you have to prove he doesn't.
If God is the eternal energy of Existence, that which we are comprised of and that we comprise, then yes, the definition of the eternal Existence is true, only miss understood by many.
You also have to prove that this garbage that you come up with repeatedly.
One Human's garbage is another Human's treasure.
Has been tried and tested for thousands of years as have the manuscripts that make up the BIBLE.
The manuscripts that made up the Bible are from and of the eternal energy. If it were not for the eternal Existence and eternal energy, then there would have been no Bible to be made. Thousands of years are not even measurable from the scope of eternity, that which Existence is, that which is immeasurable; time is defined by nothing.
Rather than some brain garbage that's formed itself between your ears in the last few years, give or take a few.
I have a recycling center within my brain and all goes to good use.
If he were dead.
To never have lived is to never have died. To never have died is to never have lived. Jesus fits both, thus he never Existed.
and going to hell, yes.
Heaven is going to be jealous of the parties me and Satan throw.
Spiritual death is the last can of worms they'd open.
Mhm, the non-physical. Existence, non-existence. Physical, non-physical. See the direction this is going in?
Originally posted by NJE777
When are people going to wake up?
Originally posted by NJE777
Jesus did not come to be better than anyone, he had one motive, that was to wake up people, that is called the Christ Consciousness
Originally posted by NJE777
Christ brought to humanity a state of consciousness and was crucified for it. And how amazing is that?
Originally posted by WiseSheep
Yes the demons do accept him and tremble. Go back to the brakes on the car analogy and rip the scales off your eyes.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
See here's the thing: I (and other secular/athiest/non-believer types) believe that the scales HAVE been ripped from our eyes, which is why we don't believe in the Guy in the Sky or his mutant son.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
A great number of us "types" have tried Christianity and found it to be lacking, a waste of time, or completely illogical and nonsensical.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
Statements such as this amuse us.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
If "god" were real and this heaven and hell business were, then I think I'd rather be in hell with all the interesting people than in heaven with the sanctimonious and judgmental.
Originally posted by LastOutFiniteVoiceEternal
Actually the sun doesn't rise or set at all. The earth merely revolves on its own axis.
Originally posted by WiseSheep
Here you go again. You can't see. The meaning had nothing to do with the sun whatsoever.
It's a way to speak so those who get it, get it and those who don't, don't.
Originally posted by WiseSheep
You'd be entertained to see just how few sanctimonious and judgmental people will be there.
You can't see what I mean. You put your foolishness on display.
Again, see above. You don't have the ability to understand this age, and how it will work in the end. You have the freedom to do whatever it is you wish now. There will come a day when you will pay for your works.
GOD's word is final, he's the judge. Whether you like it or not, your knee will bow also, and you have no whining excuse that will cut it.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
All that talk about being right and my being wrong is very self-righteous.
Statements such as these:
Wisesheep
You can't see what I mean. You put your foolishness on display.
GOD's word is final, he's the judge.
Then please leave my judgment to "god." I'm sure he's more than capable of telling me how I erred when I die.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
See, I beg to differ. People telling me that I need the scales ripped from my eyes and that I'm going to burn in hell are being sanctimonious, IMO.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
sanctimonious
adj : excessively or hypocritically pious; "a sickening
sanctimonious smile" [syn: holier-than-thou, pietistic,
pietistical, pharisaic, pharisaical, self-righteous]
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
All that talk about being right and my being wrong is very self-righteous.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
Statements such as these:
You can't see what I mean. You put your foolishness on display.
Again, see above. You don't have the ability to understand this age, and how it will work in the end. You have the freedom to do whatever it is you wish now. There will come a day when you will pay for your works.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
Strike me as extremely judgemental and self-righteous.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
GOD's word is final, he's the judge. Whether you like it or not, your knee will bow also, and you have no whining excuse that will cut it.
Then please leave my judgment to "god." I'm sure he's more than capable of telling me how I erred when I die. If he actually existed, that is.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
I don't believe in a "god" and no amount of proselytizing or "righteous" anger will change my mind, any more than I could (or would) attempt to change yours.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
Just my humble opinion.
Originally posted by NJE777
My response wasn't nasty to anyone
Originally posted by NJE777
what a shame...
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
It appears that yours is a kind of Christianity that I do not find offensive in some way. I don't find that to be true very often.
Originally posted by WiseSheep
Your response was nasty to the gospel. Quite anti-christ in nature.