Introduction to alternate history and Annunaki

The sons of Anu (The Anunnaki) answer to a higher authority. And even if they don't answer to it, they are still subject to its laws. the higher authority outlawed the usage of the gates on this planet. In fact, as I mentioned before, the entire solar system was modified.

According to Revelation 9, the bottomless pit (Same thing as a star gate, same thing as the Abzu) I'm theorizing its in the same exact place as Enki's big arrival gate and is in fact, the same exact gate, will be opened in the future. An extra-terrestrial invasion force of Anunnaki will come threw it. These are the same sons of Anu, who caused the trouble pre-flood. The same ones you read about in the Mahabharata, making their wars with their gadgets and vimanas.

And guess who is going to be there, to open it? Give ya three guesses and the first 2 don't count! None other than the Lord of the Abzu! His titles are Abaddon and Apollyon. The origin of the name Abaddon is the most interesting reference of all. It means Watcher of the Water (of the Abyss, of the Abzu. And as you know from Sitchin's writing and I Enoch, a Watcher is an Anunnaki). Revelation 9 describes him coming down from space, threw the atmosphere, to the earth, where he proceeds to open the Bottomless pit. His Abzu. Specifically, the same Abzu he arrived here from.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard


That's like concluding from one nuclear reactor being shut down that all future nuclear reactors will never be activated or used to power the homes of millions of people.

If there truly was star gate technology, it would be in use today

Hi Paul,

... in another of my other experiences, I saw keys and as you know Paul, I had some experiences with discarnate energies, I really got the feelilng that the energies were desperate for keys... what if the gates were locked? Who has the keys? I read a bit before that if you were descendants of sons of Anu you had the genes and you could access the gates.

Undo

the physical gate. prior to the tower of babel fiasco, i'm under the impression that the gates of the sons of Anu were physical and anyone who had the correct gene to access them, could do so

Perhaps, the Zetans & co need the genes as they can't access it, it could also be the another possible motive for alien abductions?

What if they are looking for their descendants? The bible is rather pedantic with the breakup and listing of tribes, descendents... etc. Either way, this is all just my thoughts.

Just also wanted to say, I am really enjoying reading this info..

way above to everyone!!!!









[edit on 16-4-2007 by NJE777]

Originally posted by undo
The sons of Anu (The Anunnaki) answer to a higher authority. And even if they don't answer to it, they are still subject to its laws. the higher authority outlawed the usage of the gates on this planet.

YES...I have seen that in another vision. I went for another walk with my guide and just above Earth, the first layer, there was an energy that *sigh, I have come to know and recognised and know what the energy represents, above that layer was another one and I also recognised another energy. So there are two 'heavens'. When I looked further up, there was another heaven, so far up all I could make out was this huge white light. The next vision I had was the one where I walked and opened the gates... but what I realised was that the two layers were very close to Earth and were completely separate from the other 'heaven'. The moment I was in the abyss and found the gate/door, once through that vortex, those energies could not access me and in all honesty, I was very pleased to know that.

None other than the Lord of the Abzu!

Revelation 9 describes him coming down from space, threw the atmosphere, to the earth, where he proceeds to open the Bottomless pit. His Abzu. Specifically, the same Abzu he arrived here from.

is he a good persona?

I really just want to thank you Paul and Undo, it is great to discuss some of these things. This is the first thread where I don't feel weird sharing some of my stuff. So a big thankyou!!!!!

There's more. In the previous chapter, Revelation 8, it describes what most think is an asteroid or meteor, crashing into the earth. It's named Wormwood. It's not a rock. It's a huge mothership. It's either going to crash into the ocean as a result of some battle above the earth, or it's going to deliberately dive into the ocean. I'm guessing dive, because it's Enki's ship and he's on his way to open the big Abzu gate in the next chapter (chapter 9). The reference to it being on fire, may be just how it appears to John the Revelator, as he sees the vision, when in fact, it may just be glowing from atmosphere entry. So Revelation 8 and 9 are describing the return of Enki to this planet. Not that he ever left, but his ship has been cloaked, I believe, and the Anunnaki, in general, have been maintaining a low profile until recently.

So when sitchinites tell you that Wormwood is space junk coming along with Nibiru, you might want to reconsider that appraisal.

Originally posted by undo
The sons of Anu (The Anunnaki) answer to a higher authority. And even if they don't answer to it, they are still subject to its laws. the higher authority outlawed the usage of the gates on this planet. In fact, as I mentioned before, the entire solar system was modified.

What higher authority do the "sons of Anu" answer to?

Originally posted by undo
According to Revelation 9, the bottomless pit (Same thing as a star gate, same thing as the Abzu) I'm theorizing its in the same exact place as Enki's big arrival gate and is in fact, the same exact gate, will be opened in the future. An extra-terrestrial invasion force of Anunnaki will come threw it. These are the same sons of Anu, who caused the trouble pre-flood. The same ones you read about in the Mahabharata, making their wars with their gadgets and vimanas.

When is this supposed to happen?

Hi NJE777,

Originally posted by NJE777
I read a bit before that if you were descendants of sons of Anu you had the genes and you could access the gates.

Perhaps it would be best not to make that assumption.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Hi NJE777,
Perhaps it would be best not to make that assumption.

Point taken... just discussing some thoughts...throwing it out there, yanno!

I read before, you explained if they existed, they would be used?
And because they aren't, or we don't have proof that they are being used, they dont exist?


I get the feelilng, you know something else here ...

paul,

the timetable for the opening of the gate is right after the arrival of wormwood. wormwood is a future event (to us, anyway). unless it happened and didn't get any coverage at all, which is unlikely. the text claims that wormwood poisons various water sources: the underground rivers, the oceans, the rivers, streams and lakes, of one third of the planet's water sources. this sounds deliberate rather than accidental. it'd be hard to do that, by accident. and after that, we see the same event from another perspective, this time showing the arrival of the being instead of just the being's craft. he opens the pit with a key. perhaps some kind of device, like the dial home device on stargate. and out comes the invasion force. the thing to note here is, that time is very flexible unless otherwise stated. so one event may proceed the other by seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades and, maybe even centuries, although that seems rather unlikely as well.

Originally posted by NJE777

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Hi NJE777,
Perhaps it would be best not to make that assumption.

Point taken...

just discussing some thoughts...throwing it out there, yanno!

I read before, you explained if they existed, they would be used?
And because they aren't, or we don't have proof that they are being used, they don't exist?

I get the feeling, you know something else here

...

NJE777...you are a clever and intuitive gal.

After the fiasco at the Tower of Babel (which wasn't a tower, it was a ziggurat, an attempt to build a model of Enki's E.ABZU craft (wormwood, mayhaps?) , Nimrod was stripped of his power. He had been the Emperor of the Known World at the time. After his death, his authority and power were redistributed to a council of 70 Anunnaki, each of whom was assigned a nation of people. This is where the empire was split into 70 nations. They've been here, all along, watching over the affairs of humanity, taking care of business and so on.
this council of 70 is equivalent to the gods of Olympus and about a hundred other similar examples from ancient civs.

there was a proviso, however, and that was that they could not use the gates until further notice.



[edit on 16-4-2007 by undo]

Tying it altogether:

In the Legend of Ra and Hathor, Ra is likened to Enki's E.ABZU and Hathor is likened to the Abzu gate. Since Enki's E.ABZU was, I believe, a pyramidal type spaceship, this means Ra is being likened to a spaceship (not surprising if you consider all the discs in egyptian art). Anyway, destruction is wreaked on the planet when the Eye of Ra goes ballistic. A flood of red blood (water) abounds. Since the Eye of Ra is the Abzu gate, it seems opening the gate will have some bearing on not only the water turning red, but the poisoning and embittering of the water. notice how in Revelation 8, the water is turned the color of blood when a mountain on fire (Enki's Wormwood foreshadowing) crashes into the water. There's that pesky red water again, and always with a tie-back to Enki's E.Abzu and the Abzu gate.

[edit on 16-4-2007 by undo]

Undo,

To reiterate my question post...

Originally posted by undo
The sons of Anu (The Anunnaki) answer to a higher authority. And even if they don't answer to it, they are still subject to its laws. the higher authority outlawed the usage of the gates on this planet. In fact, as I mentioned before, the entire solar system was modified.

What higher authority do the "sons of Anu" answer to?

Originally posted by undo
According to Revelation 9, the bottomless pit (Same thing as a star gate, same thing as the Abzu) I'm theorizing its in the same exact place as Enki's big arrival gate and is in fact, the same exact gate, will be opened in the future. An extra-terrestrial invasion force of Anunnaki will come threw it. These are the same sons of Anu, who caused the trouble pre-flood. The same ones you read about in the Mahabharata, making their wars with their gadgets and vimanas.

When is this supposed to happen?




[edit on 16-4-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Fine, just go to my stargate thread and read it for yourself

www.abovetopsecret.com...

41 pages of research, comments and additions by others.

Why would i spin it? I have nothing to gain from this.
no books to sell you, no ads for you to click on, no church to invite you to,
no donations or pleas for pay pal contributions. no author to
point you back to, other than my own research. i have no agenda or visions of rule the world. i don't want you or anyone else to die, or go to hades or shut up. i'm just here sharing what i know.

i've done my best to answer the questions i was capable of answering.
i've spilled my guts out here, laid it on the line, was as honest with you as i can be considering the subject matter is so scattered, over thousands of years. i've searched threw all my research materials, looked up the correlating images, tried to prepare thought provoking and informative posts, to bring you the information i've accumulated.

if you don't see its value as anything but spin, i'll leave.

the sons of Anu are the angellic hosts. Some are good, some are not.
i also believe them to be extra-terrestrial races other than us. i think they answer to Anu, who is the head of the Elohim.

as far as the gate being opened, I already answered that to the best of my ability. It's a prophecy of the future. When, I don't know.

Undo,

Thanks for addressing my questions.

To sum up your answers (and feel free to revise this for clarity):

The big arrival gate of Enki will occur "right after the arrival of wormwood," referring to a prophecy and you are not sure when that will happen. At which time, there will be an alien invasion.

And the "sons of Anu" answer to "Anu, the head of the Elohim."

I just read some of the posts in the thread reference you listed.

Okay...you seem sincere in what you are espousing.

However, I remain dubious as to the existence of a star gate back at the time of the Anunnaki, or that one exists now (anywhere), per the analysis conclusions stated earlier in this thread.



[edit on 16-4-2007 by Paul_Richard]

well to avoid highjacking your thread with page after page about stargates, let me just say that the clues are in the ancient texts themselves, even moreso than in the artworks.

such as enki's abzu upper emplacement being in the field constellation. i found a star chart for that, from babylon, that shows what i believe was the field constellation. it's the great square of pegasus.

if you look at the illustrations for the book of what is in the duat (egyptian), you see what appears to be an attempt on the part of the pharaohs, to understand their own ancient past. the gate systems, the concept of descending thru gates in an underworld, which leads to a place in the heavens. doors and chasms, surmounted by things like the snake of eternity that lead them into their version of heaven. i theorized that perhaps they had some vague idea what it all meant, and tried to recreate it but were having trouble as the gates had all been buried and made taboo.

on a side note, not diretly related to the stargate topic, and more related to the concept of hybridization, did you see the section in the stargate thread where i listed off my study on the abnormal skulls of the pharaohs and royals , all over the world?

also, just for your own interest, check out the history of Naqada, Egypt. now there's one strange town.

Say Undo,

This is a very interesting alternate history of Annunaki and star gates, can I get a rough summary of what you think, I've always loved alternate ideas. Here's an alternative theory of mine after reading some information.

Past Annunakis maybe some how linked to explanation by the bible like that of the fallen angels (early mankind caretakers and overseers) that rebeled and were throw down to Earth and imprsioned (closing of stargates) until a later time when the stargates are opened again. (judgement)

The Annunaki (fallen angels) gave mankind some technology/information/spiritual advice (fruit from garden of eden to eve) which angered the higher management resulting in getting them banished, imprisoned and isolated here along with their human charge.

Sure paints an interesting picture, it seem there is more going on in the universe then meets the eye. I read some hints of advanced civilizations that in the past that could rivial what we now have that could have gotten destroyed. (atlantis and others maybe) Our creator can be vengeful.

It seem that the higher management is very determined to keep us primitive and would cleanse the Earth of technology when it reaches a certain level. If this alternative theory is correct, they may do so again soon and may have a good reason for doing so as they are afraid mankind would use these advanced technologies and their anti-soical behaviour to cause great suffering onto other space faring races.

Maybe the higher management places more importantance that we develop our morals or our obedience to them before allowing us access to the universe and other planes of existence.

Since we are not kept in the loop of knowledge and information that other speices may have, it is difficult to tell what our creators/higher managements true intentions are, which could be benevolent, evil or cruel.

But there seem to be other races in the universe that are challenging their rules and interfering with their plans by giving us other advice and information which our creators do not wish us to know. It seems that these other racces do not agree with way we are being treated by our current guardians.

Both sides claim the other are wrong.

I feel that our guardian/creators are doing what our governments are doing, with holding information which the public should know about in order for them to make better informed decisions.

We are being treated like children living in one of our parents houses, obey and conform to the rules of the elder or suffer the cane. Kept in the house, kept from the outside world, ignorant as little children, knowing little of what layed beyond the property, except by the grace of our parents and stray information that leaked pass them.

Are we being keep in the dark for our own protection or is it done so that our parent can control how we think and act?

I am interested on your take and your alternative views.


[edit on 16-4-2007 by ixiy]

Hi Ixiy, The usual explanation for the fallen angels or elohim is both the Annunaki beginning with brothers Enlil and Enki plus their wives and offspring forming the pantheon of "gods". But according to the texts the Mars Annunaki who were fleeing the destruction of that planet. These may have been more numerous and they were treated like outsiders by the gods pantheon.
Generally your alternative version sounds good. If you have supporting sources, please site them. Thanks!

Undo,
Your research has opened my eyes to information that I somehow missed or just did not see as important I guess. The story of the fallen angels is so much more complex and twisted than I had imagined.
I will say that the Reptilians are the Anunnaki and the Greys are another species of beings created by God who come from Zeta-Reticuli.

The main thing to remember is that demons can take any form they want to, be it a reptilian creature or a human being. They can appear to have any motive they claim and create an entire false history. It might sound racial and controvercial but I can clearly see that Adam and Eve of the Bible were not created by Anunnaki but by the hand of God directly.
In chapter 1 of Genesis, God creates mankind. In chapter 2, Lord God creates Adam and Eve. The creation of Mankind marked an end to millions of years of creating life because God had made his perfect creation.
Mankind was supposed to evolve into what we were to be because that is the law of nature and Gods will. God has an order to how things work and that order is nature. When Lucifer and his angels revolted against God, it changed everything and an end had to come.
But to save his people, God created another race of humans who did not follow the laws of evolution but were EQUAL in their humanity to other races. Adam and Eve were the first Jews. When Satan infultrated the Jews God became flesh himself in his son Jesus Christ, and a savior for ALL humanity who would seek him.
And even after all the enslavement, confusion and disimformation caused by the Anunnaki, Christians still rose up and the promise to Abraham was still realised. America and the English speaking nations are the lost Jews and are Gods people. This sets the stage for the battle of Armaggedon.
Again, it might sound racial but look at the different races on the planet and tell me that some kind of different creation did not happen.
Blacks look like they decended from apes because they did. Spanish people all share the same black hair and brown eyes because they all came from the same decendant, the result of Anunnaki DNA experiments. The same can be said for Asains and Pacific Islanders.
But look at white people. Whites can have different eye and hair color, do not come in one basic size and can differ drasticaly in almost every way from one another. Now take a modern day Jew and stand him side by side with a caucasian American. You cant tell the difference.
This fact alone should point to something being different between our creations. This is an idea the KKK has and uses it to show that other races are evil and not made by God but that is not true.
We were all made by the hand of God and are all created equal.

Megadeath,

Well you might want to consider that the idea that the Anunnaki modified primates or cavemen to make homo sapiens, is actually a misunderstanding of the texts themselves.

see, the story is that Enki saw uncivilized people, drinking out of the rivers like the animals, and thought they needed an upgrade, which he proceeded to do both genetically and via teaching them civilization. the modification was to homo sapiens not to homo erectus.

i theorize that homo erectus was not a human at all but a reptilian.