UFO Photos Extremly Close Up, 2006

I am one of the "Three Amigos" (three owners of the site) here at AboveTopSecret.com and I would like to WELCOME Ambler and her Mum and let you both know that I have alerted two of the TOP photo experts on the planet to these images.

We will get these images analyzed and see what, if anything, can be determined. It's going to take some time and I am certain our experts will have questions.

I'll update this thread (or Jeff Ritzmann himself will) with any ensuing questions.

Please do keep checking back and thanks again for sharing these with our community!

Springer...

Thanks, Springer. About time someone took notice, and action.

BTW....her name is Amber, not Ambler.

Again, thanks.

Lex

What about CCD noise?

it is well known that low level (dark) pictures have quantization on the CCD.
CCD's are indeed photon limited at small intensities.

Great, I egarly await the verdict Of what the gurus findings are.. Being a believer and skeptic both, I await the word from the top to further my own thoughts and theroies.

Interesting pics. I think I can make out the outline of the trees in this first few...It almost looks like a mild version of TV static in the background. Anyways you have convinced me, and I am interested to see what the expert is going to say

I'm not completely sure about those photos but I do believe in UFOs so I wont say those photos aren't real

Hello Springer

very nice to meet you, and thank you very much for the welcome

I am happy to answer any questions and if need be I'm happy to be contacted by phone.
I am going to send you a u2u with a link to the photos taken straight from the memory stick, without being moved from computer to computer.

I'm also happy to send you the original memory card if it is needed.

Thanks again

possibly a remote control vehicle of some kind?
hints:

1. 5ft across
2. primary colors as seen on many remote controlled hobby craft
3. lights seem like light tubes you might find on a gussied up remote craft, for night flying
4. close proximity, meaning low flying
5. similar area from previous sighting, meaning hobbyist nearby who creates/flys remote craft for fun

possibly reasons it might not be remotely controlled

1. silent
2. responding to sound

similar body style remote control ships:

gadgets.qj.net...
www.elitemodelsonline.co.uk...
lib.store.yahoo.net...

similar light usage remote controlled ship:

images.hobbytron.com...

military remote control ship:

www.oilempire.us...





[edit on 26-3-2007 by undo]

Hi undo

thank you for being the first person to throw some ideas on what this might be

I also thought about a remote controlled glider at one point, in fact I spent hours looking on the internet to see if i could find anything that looked the same.
I did find similar things in a way, but there are a few things that ruled this out for me in the end.

As you said, it was totally silent, it could hover on the spot, and in the dark it could fly very very low to the ground.
On Admas Grave there has been a law for the last 5 years I think, that gliders are not allowed, there was a prosecution of a person, and since then no one flys there. That's not to say a hoxer wouldn't.

One of the other witnesses also happens to be a rc enthusiast, and he feels there is no way this was a remote controlled rc vehicle that he's come across.

Lastly, originally there were 3 crafts, the one we watched was on our side of the hill, the other two moved to the other side of the hill, to fly 3 gliders thats close to each other, at night and in that area is a very big risk, it would require a big team to pull this off. Night sights and walkie talkies and they would have to be sure they didn't crash and an ability to see and hear us in the dark, in order to pinpoint our position and stop over our heads. I also looked at the flying time of every RC I could, most don't have a flying time over 10 mins, we watched this from start to finish for about 45 mins.
Also, no one else in that area has to date seen anything like this, not that has come forward anyway

The sighting we had in 2004 was from the same spot, but it was in the opposite direction, and a considerable way away from us, again, there have been speculations about that. I still remain unsure as to what we saw that year.

Looking at your links, the closest to what we saw in shape, althought the wings are wrong and the nose would be the black wing thing.


Adams Grave it is however not to far away from Salisbury plain, a big military area.

[edit on 26-3-2007 by Ambergambler]

I see what you mean. I know next to nothign about remote controlled craft. It just caught my eye that it was so small and that it was displaying the primary colors. Seemed, hrm, man-made in that sense, but not really in the other details.

yes, I'm right there with you on that, thats why I spent so long looking at this possibility.

undo is thinking along the same lines I am, I've just been doing a search to see if there is some explanation for what you saw.
I was thinking that from your description that it could be some sort of illuminated kite maybe especially when you said that the air had an effect on it.
I found that you can buy LEDs to attach to kites to use in night flying.
Here is an example. It's a gallery of photos taken with time-delay photography so the results are quite impressive.

www.guernsey.net...


www.guernsey.net...

It's also suggested in some of the sites that I looked at that people should try flying these kites at UFO hotspots to see if they got a reaction.

Do you think this could be a possibility?

Edit to add
I guess that it would depend on the weather conditions, any idea if it would have been suitable for kite flying?

[edit on 26-3-2007 by pantha]

this one is pretty impressive

www.guernsey.net...-20

i don't mean to discourage you, that's for sure. i'm always interested in ufos. never debunked a sighting before. or, i take that back, one time i debunked a glowing top (the toy), but that's it. typically, i find this area very interesting and spend alot of time pouring over images of the moon and other planetary bodies, looking for anomalies

btw, here's a link to a very interesting John Lear ATS thread about anomalies on the moon. it's already 133 pages long. if you haven't seen it already, get another cup of tea!! no, get an entire pot of tea and big plate of crumpets! lol

www.abovetopsecret.com...

and the eye-popping clementine moon photos color thread

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That should keep you busy for awhile and encourage you regarding the ufo question.

hi, the pics are interesting, I see your thinking, but I dont know if a kite is thick enough, we think the depth of the UFO was around 10 inches although its hard to say, we never really saw the top of it. Also the area it covered in flight and the fact it stopped again, makes me rule it out. Heres a link to a rough pic of the area, I have marked out where we are on it and where the UFO first appeared, the grey line shows it's rought flight path, although it did deviated from this, sorry its a bit rough

uksoundlabs.com...

here is the google map place marker:

uksoundlabs.com...

thanks undo, kettles on, I may be gone some time

a question.
You say that the whole encounter lasted for about 40 minutes, but unless I've missed it , I don't think you mentioned how the object departed from the scene?

I'm pretty sure if you got your hands on some sort of model aircraft and attatched a couple lights and took photos on such a shoddy camera you'd get the same effect.

The fact this members Mother and Son joined in an attempt to lend credibility to the story makes it really hard to believe.

If it weren't for the fact here 'family members' registered and posted a response i might of had a little faith in the story and photos. But her mother and son just made this womans credibility almost laughable.

If her mother and son were going to add to this story as some sort of evidence; why the need and hassle for setting up 2 new accounts.

You're telling me anyone with the IQ above 20 would have their son create a new account as apposed to letting him poster under her username!?

She's trying too hard to prove herself as genuine, it's like a racist defending his racists ways by telling you he has 536949 black friends

Sorry i'm not buying it, and i believe anyone who does is quite foolish

Apolagies in advance for any offense i cause with this reply

Hi KingAmongstMen

Nice to meet you.

not much I can say to that really, you are intitled to your own opinions
I did not have my hands on a model aircraft, although i would like one like that!

My son wanted to join, if he'd used my account there would be people saying it was me also, you cant really win on here. As I already pointed out, my mum had an account, she couldn't remember her user/email she used, so created a new account, she doesn't live with me, so how to use my account? And again, why should she? After all, its not that difficult to create an account on ATS!

I don't want credibility, think what you will, you're wrong, and I think your analogy lends you no favors.

I'm not " trying too hard to prove herself as genuine"

Im trying to prove the photos are real, which you seem to think they are, even if you think it was a model aircraft, so thats one good thing

Tell me, if you were in my position, and telling the truth, how would you go about this?

No offence taken

Originally posted by KingAmongstMen
I'm pretty sure if you got your hands on some sort of model aircraft and attatched a couple lights and took photos on such a shoddy camera you'd get the same effect.

The fact this members Mother and Son joined in an attempt to lend credibility to the story makes it really hard to believe.

If it weren't for the fact here 'family members' registered and posted a response i might of had a little faith in the story and photos. But her mother and son just made this womans credibility almost laughable.

If her mother and son were going to add to this story as some sort of evidence; why the need and hassle for setting up 2 new accounts.

You're telling me anyone with the IQ above 20 would have their son create a new account as apposed to letting him poster under her username!?

She's trying too hard to prove herself as genuine, it's like a racist defending his racists ways by telling you he has 536949 black friends

Sorry i'm not buying it, and i believe anyone who does is quite foolish

Apolagies in advance for any offense i cause with this reply

I think this was a bit harsh comment. As I remember correct, she never claimed that she saw an alien spacecraft. She is just curious what this object could have been. There is a lot of interesting videos right now on ATS which are waiting to be cleared by the experts, therefore there is not so much to gain with these three photos. On the other hand, I am as much curios as the photographer, what this object might be.