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posted on Dec, 29 2003 @ 03:09 PM
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Hmmm...to answer the question of the thread. NO.
Would I fight the military occupation? Yes.
Would I go behind the lines to some village and blow up civilians? No.



posted on Dec, 29 2003 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Jakomo
No, you see, this is implying that the Palestinians are granted freedoms from their government, when in fact Israel is the ones in charge of saying if they are free or not. Curfews, raids, destruction of livelihoods, etc.


Israel still grants the Palestinian Authority sovereignty in their major population centers, even though the Palestinian Authority betrayed the promise (to crackdown on terrorists) that won them this concession. As for curfews, raids and checkpoints, these things can end when the Palestinian-Arabs use their freedom to reject the violence that is the direct cause of these things.



posted on Dec, 30 2003 @ 12:42 PM
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Mycroft: "Israel still grants the Palestinian Authority sovereignty in their major population centers, even though the Palestinian Authority betrayed the promise (to crackdown on terrorists) that won them this concession. As for curfews, raids and checkpoints, these things can end when the Palestinian-Arabs use their freedom to reject the violence that is the direct cause of these things."

I'm a little disappointed, this is the same tired diatribe that you always use.

If a foreign country has the power to impose curfews, violate your land's borders with JETS, TANKS, AND INFANTRY UNITS on a whim, it's NOT FREEDOM. Not even sovereignty.

"these things can end when the Palestinian-Arabs use their freedom to reject the violence that is the direct cause of these things"

Haha, yeah, good one. The violence is CAUSED by 35 years of illegal military occupation. Bottom line.

If you stop the Occupation, you stop the intifada.

But that would take effort and concessions from Israel's Zionist cronies. Ain't gonna happen.

The blame for ALL of this lies squarely on ther shoulders of the Israelis and their Illegal Occupation of a foreign nation. Without the Occupation there would be no intifada.

Common sense, common logic.

jakomo



posted on Dec, 30 2003 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jakomo
I'm a little disappointed, this is the same tired diatribe that you always use.


And you always blame everything on Israel and close your eyes real tight to avoid seeing Palestinian-Arab brutality.


Originally posted by Jakomo
If a foreign country has the power to impose curfews, violate your land's borders with JETS, TANKS, AND INFANTRY UNITS on a whim, it's NOT FREEDOM. Not even sovereignty.

"these things can end when the Palestinian-Arabs use their freedom to reject the violence that is the direct cause of these things"

Haha, yeah, good one. The violence is CAUSED by 35 years of illegal military occupation. Bottom line.


And yet, whenever there is an opportunity to win independence, the violence increases. Why is that?


Originally posted by Jakomo
But that would take effort and concessions from Israel's Zionist cronies. Ain't gonna happen.


Concessions without real effort on the part of the Palestinian-Arabs lead to more violence. History proves that. Did you know, for example, that after the Oslo accords were signed in 1993, after Israel recognized the PLO as the representatives of the Palestinian-Arab people, after Israel withdrew from Palestinian-Arab cities, after Israel paid to arm and train some fifty thousand Palestinian-Arab security officers, after Israel diverted tax revenues directly to Arafat, after they granted all these concessions on nothing more than the promise that the Palestinian Authority would use those newly trained and armed security officers to arrest terrorists and curb terrorism, that the death rate of Israeli citizens doubled for the next three years?! Did you know that the very same weapons Israel provided to the Palestinian Authority were used to kill Israeli citizens?

That�s the problem with negotiating with terrorists. It encourages terrorism. The terrorists, quite naturally, see what they won through terrorism and try for more.


Originally posted by Jakomo
The blame for ALL of this lies squarely on ther shoulders of the Israelis and their Illegal Occupation of a foreign nation. Without the Occupation there would be no intifada.

Common sense, common logic.


Uh-huh. That might make sense in another part of the world, but there it ignores the fact that there was violence, terrorism, before the �occupation�.



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