Assisting in Disclosure - What means do we have?

thx for links Tock..
I save them (links) in a notepad for now.

I really need the DVD i guess.

I like the idea too.

Originally posted by millerman
I should be able to divide this up, not just by country, but right down to the city you live in.....

Most important thing - is to make a page. With a login - a forum.

Then start we could start communicating only on that page for that purpose.
Like start - with a news letter. A nice picture on top.

I dunno - im not expert on setting up such things.

[edit on 18-3-2007 by Ram]

Then we could take one country at a time...

[edit on 18-3-2007 by Ram]

I've got my hands full at the moment myself, working on 2 projects right now.
But I'm sure other talented people can take care of this. Just talk to each other through U2U and get things going. This can be quite an interesting project too.

-Prepare a small UFO/ET Case and do a show to your uncle and aunts.
-Volunteer to assist one of the big organisations.
-Contact all independant media in your town about this subject, do it well prepared.

Originally posted by tock
-Prepare a small UFO/ET Case and do a show to your uncle and aunts.
-Volunteer to assist one of the big organisations.
-Contact all independant media in your town about this subject, do it well prepared.

Great ideas, but there is only 1 Newspaper and 1 radio station where I live.

Not wanting to pontificate but a real international effort in terms of a massive web site with the sum total of ufo sightings contributed by all the orgs that collect such data.....
Theis is very airy in some ways but if it could be accomplished then it could be statistically analyzed for more data .....
Some of the trouble with the "science of ufology"
it has no international really accredited reference and data retrieval org.
Many sightings reported in one country i have read duplicated in others, but never grouped or even connected.....
ith a central sight of data we could concievably pull out a lot of confirmations through mining fir similar sightings and such......
The factuous nature of the various orgs who do investigations seems ludicrous and totally unscientific.....
This fact alone is a great stumbling block, (and a KEY factor in the dis-information campaign we are struggling with.
No real unity exists in this side of the struggle....and the enemy is relentless and way ahead of us!
Part of what i am talking about and you too is already right here at ats!
just not quite enough...........
Yahoo and other orgs have these new friends groups which many people belong to.....perhaps a few discussions could bw initiated on those sites too........a few judicious reports and some thread or two.....

Call me a party pooper if you want, but even if every one believed in ET's and ufo's, it wouldn't make much difference. Even if the ET's come out and say "hi", there will still be wars, sickness and politics, unless they change it with technology or take over. There is a reason they haven't come out yet and its not "only" because no one believes. Its like trying to prove Santa's real, even if you succeed, what good is it unless he gives you a Red Ryder BB Gun or at least comes over for a visit.

In my opinion, developing technologies that defy the laws of physics (free energy/anti-grav) for non-profit would make people believe and draw the ET's out. The element "bismuth" may hold clues to anti-grav IF bob lazar was right about element 115 (115 is right below bismuth-Bi 83). Its said that elements directly above and below each other in the table of elements have similar properties.

What does this have to do with the thread?
How does your post assist in disclosure?

Here is another activity we could have to assist disclosure.
-Start a UFO discussion group in your town. Use internet to plan meetings with people, in a Cafe or somewhere else, where people can discuss.

Once more, stay on topic. If you don't want to participate positively, don't post.

[edit on 22-3-2007 by tock]

Originally posted by CidCaldensfey

I would, however, try to keep science and religion seperate. I know a lot of people believe that aliens and UFOs go together with religion, and maybe that is true, but the subject of UFOs is already obscure enough. To add an even more difficult subject to chew over, the existance of god and angels, would only make it more complicated, in my opinion.

Religion is something many people take extremely seriously. To suggest such a thing like aliens being Jesus or some other thing like that may offend some people and would only hurt your cause.


[edit on 16-3-2007 by CidCaldensfey]

I understand what you are saying here. However, what many 'religious' people misunderstand is that spirituality really has nothing to do with religion. Spirituality, in its truest sense, is more of a natural reconnect with nature (thus, God, which is where most people begin to make the incorrect assumption that it is a religion). It truly is at the very core of progressing to a point in which contact will come.

Just wanted to put that in there. I agree that religion needs to be kept out but spirituality is very important here.

Also, the whole idea of UFOs is a bane to most religions.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by tock
-High school student: You're next essay will be the ET or UFO subject.

Schools are not supposed to be breeding grounds for anything other than toeing-the-party-line.

Which is the unfortunate problem with our schools here in the U.S. "You will teach what WE want you to teach even though YOU know it is a lie!"

Okay, off topic. Sorry. I applaud your dedication to our youth. It's one of the most valiant careers out there. I'm lucky that my 4th grader is in a class with a man that has a very 'imaginative' view of the world. He has actually had a fantasy novel series published and is a huge LOTR fan.

Some people may frown on this but he inspires our kids to open up their minds and that is one of the most important lessons someone can learn from schooling.

Originally posted by Gazrok

Since Greer admits to being in contact with these ET's on a frequent basis and communicates with them; then why can't he just ask these same ET's to FORCE the world into a disclosure by simply making themselves known?

Because he's full of it....(imho)

The Disclosure Project has some great witnesses (and some serious crackpots), and it's a great idea... Unfortunately, with someone like Greer at the helm, it will never be taken seriously, because he's become a victim of his own schlock, and he fails to weed out witnesses that have serious credibility issues. All the pilots and military officers' testimonies won't help you when all the critics will remember are folks like Meier and his Plejarens.....

Not to mention the fact that he has had dealings with and received monies from some of the most notorious 'rich' families in the world. I won't mention any ...Rock... excuse me, had to cough... names.....

Originally posted by tock

Originally posted by bergle
How about a contest to get real evidence?
We could Have contests for the best moon anomaly or Marsifact....best ufo picture or landing traces of the year.....
On another forum i have tried to promote the idea of a full moon watch over the course of a year.....where people could upload their moon photos etc...
If we could get these type of participatory activities up and running i think the contributed evidence would keep them going after they get well known.
How about having a ufo spotting party this summer ?if we all organised one or two that would add up to a lot of fun and hours of skywatching by attendees.Whether believers or not.
When the weather warms a bit more i intend to spend regular times out nother group pyoject would be focussed intent towards contact by groups of people...Kind of like a seannce......if possible i will invite my friends to accompany me .

That's a good, turn it into a fun activity. Bring starchart books and study the sky as you do so. Try to get the kids involved with this activity.

Also, it starts with the parents opening up as well. I now speak openly with my own children about our non-terrestrial visitors. One is 10, the other is 6. Why do I do this? Well, first off let me explain something. I have not allowed them to watch movies that dealt with aliens except one. ET. That was roughly 3 years ago so my 6 year old doesn't remember it much.

Anyway, SHE approached ME about the subject because of the 'dream' she had about a light greenish man that took her to his planet and started talking to her about what's coming. The details she provided on the type of house they were in (shapes of windows and the strange colors coming in through them and the weird ceiling) were a bit too detailed for a 6 year old mind. It was extremely similar to a recurring dream I used to have when I was around her age.

Anyway, it comes down to educating our own young kids and neighbors first that the "Independence Day" and "Alien" films are not what it's about. It's more about "Close Encounters of the Third Kind".

Peace!

Opening up to the next generations is certainly a great way to assist in disclosure.

There is a saying that goes along these lines: "You don't convince your opponent of a concept, but they rather die and the next generation will be born with these concepts open to them."

I can't seem to find the actual quote...

Hey Tock and Everybody,

Man, you guys have posted some great ideas! I haven't checked out this post in awhile. Great stuff. I think I might be able to get the blog sites together, I've been thinking the same my self, but I wasn't thinking other languages, that's even better. Let me know.

I don't know any other languages but English, give me the go ahead and I will create a blog disclosureus.blogspot.com or whatever...I'm not sure about graphics but I can at least get the ball rolling....

Originally posted by XL5
Call me a party pooper if you want, but even if every one believed in ET's and ufo's, it wouldn't make much difference. Even if the ET's come out and say "hi", there will still be wars, sickness and politics, unless they change it with technology or take over. There is a reason they haven't come out yet and its not "only" because no one believes. Its like trying to prove Santa's real, even if you succeed, what good is it unless he gives you a Red Ryder BB Gun or at least comes over for a visit.

In my opinion, developing technologies that defy the laws of physics (free energy/anti-grav) for non-profit would make people believe and draw the ET's out. The element "bismuth" may hold clues to anti-grav IF bob lazar was right about element 115 (115 is right below bismuth-Bi 83). Its said that elements directly above and below each other in the table of elements have similar properties.

I know that is how many people feel. "there will always be wars, sickness and politics" But if we listen to what message many people are saying they are receiving from our friends (the word ET just seems offensive) then maybe you can start to see why it is important for disclosure.

There are a lot of 'crackpots' out there that are indeed spreading BS but there is also a very real message that is being spread by many different sources and it is virtually the same thing. When that starts happening you have to at least start to look at it more. The message is that once we gain a specific spiritual level (global consciousness) there will be no more wars. No more sickness. Politics won't be as massive as it is now. It will be how it was meant to be. Not about the rich controlling the majority of the world's assets or royalty being better than the 'serfs' (us.)

As for why they haven't contacted us yet, well, there are many theories to that. Much has to do with the fear that most people feel when they experience something out of the ordinary. This fear that our government and Hollywood has placed into us with the stories of evil aliens that are bent on world domination. Our friends from other worlds can sense this and will avoid causing ANY form of discomfort to people. So, until we reach a level of acceptance on a global stage they will most likely NOT make unilateral contact.

Maybe we should first start a Yahoo Groups account so that we can discuss these issues without interference from people that are not with this thing.

I can get that started, what do you guys wanna call it?

Great Idea C3hamby.
Something representing the population taking action would work

How does my post assist in disclosure? So just because I don't go along with word of mouth disclosure, I'm a disbeliever?

If alien technology (free energy/AG) was developed and released, the technology could be TESTED and proven around the world. Every one would believe then as the most skeptical are the scientists. They would televise the testable proof and everyone could connect the dots. They would realize that 90degree turns are possible and that it IS possible to travel to other planets beyond our solar system and that aliens would have that technology too. There wouldn't be wars for oil or land, they would be in space terraforming other planets instead.

What I'm saying is, you will never get every one to believe unless a UFO lands in thier yard and that the things that trouble us will still be there. No one will fix it unless they get paid to, people go to church but can't be bothered to stop the wars if it interrupts thier life (its human nature). Greers disclosure project and mufon are already huge and haven't made a dent, its not because no one believes, its because belief alone does nothing for them (unlike sci-fi TV and books lol). I think we should push for disclosure in another way as the others have been tried.

I still believe.

No, all Im asking is to stick to what I originally asked.
Offer advice to assist disclosure.
If you dont believe, dont post, since you have nothing to help disclosure
I dont understand what is so difficult to understand in all this?

-To assist disclosure, you can distribute flyers for you favorite organisation.

Originally posted by tock
-To assist disclosure, you can distribute flyers for you favorite organisation.

Would something like this work?

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[edit on 3/22/2007 by Alien42]