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Originally posted by DarkSide
Very interesting thread, and thank you for your contribution Mr Lear .
Bob Lazar says the aliens (zetans) gave the U.S 9 discs and a small amount of fuel (element 115), but why?
What did these aliens get in exchange? What did the U.S have that these aliens could not acquire without our consent?
I read before on various sites that they were allowing the aliens to abduct a certain amount of humans in exchange for technology, but what's stopping the aliens from doing that anyways if they wanted to, it's not as if we could stop them from doing so.
Originally posted by Diplomat
Hey John,
Why doesn't Lazar stay involved? F
I guess he's really said all he can say though right? I dunno, I still think he should be more "involved" somehow... maybe he is I just don't know about it...
Originally posted by TheAvenger
Originally posted by Diplomat
Hey John,
Why doesn't Lazar stay involved? F
I guess he's really said all he can say though right? I dunno, I still think he should be more "involved" somehow... maybe he is I just don't know about it...
What I have noticed is not only is Lazar no longer interested in ufology, a couple of other people well-known in the field have lost interest also. Bob, others could be a member here on A.T.S. though. How would we know?
Here on A.T.S. you're never certain whether you're communicating with a Ph.D physicist, or a very bright 13 year old kid. A few questions usually sorts that out, however.
[edit on 4/4/2007 by TheAvenger]
Originally posted by johnlear
Furthermore, we have yet to produce anything heavier than element 112.
As soon as each atom of 115 is transmuted into 116, it immediately decays and produces a radiation unlike that which we normally observe in nuclear decay. Each atom of element 116 decays and releases two antiprotons (anti-hydrogen), a form of antimatter.
The flux of antimatter particles produced in the reactor are channeled down an evacuated, tuned tube (which keeps it from contacting with the matter that surrounds it) and reacted with a gaseous matter target. This Total Annihilation reaction is the most efficient and energetic nuclear reaction there is. The more familiar nuclear reactions are Fission, producing energy from the splitting of atoms as used in nuclear reactors & atomic bombs, and Fusion, the fusing or combining of atoms (typically hydrogen nuclei) to release even more energy. Fusion is the reaction that powers the sun and other stars and is what gives hydrogen bombs their "punch". These two more common nuclear reactions are dwarfed by the power and efficiency of the annihilation reaction used in the alien reactor.
Lots of impressive sounding stuff about reactors and bombarding with protons and all that. But read it again. Antimatter and matter are converted into energy. Fine. But where does the antimatter come from? From element 115 when it is "bombarded with a proton" by the ship's reactor. Hmmm. And just exactly HOW MUCH energy would your reactor have to put into each proton to have it create an antiproton?? Well, exactly the mass energy of an antiproton! And how much energy do you get back out when the antiproton annihilates? EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY THAT YOU PUT INTO CREATING IT!! Conservation of energy rears it's ugly head, and once again - it looks like Bob's saucer is going nowhere fast! ~Dr. David L. Morgan
Originally posted by rocksolid
Interesting...
Mr. Lear...why do you think the aliens would want to keep themselves secret?
thanks
Thanks Glenn. There is no possibility that anything like the element 115 which powered the ET ships and which I got to hold in my hand in its lead container will every, ever, ever, be synthesized here on earth. There is no way that an accelerator working 24 hours a day for a thousand years could ever duplicate the teeniest, tiniest spec of element 115 for the briefest fraction of a second.
Originally posted by rocksolid
Thanks Glenn. There is no possibility that anything like the element 115 which powered the ET ships and which I got to hold in my hand in its lead container will every, ever, ever, be synthesized here on earth. There is no way that an accelerator working 24 hours a day for a thousand years could ever duplicate the teeniest, tiniest spec of element 115 for the briefest fraction of a second.
Does this mean that any attempt to build another ufo will never succeed?
Originally posted by topsecretombomb
If Bob Lazaar really worked for area 51 then why would people like William Cooper claim that Lazaar is a CIA operative sent to disinform everybody?
We all know William Cooper was assassinated for his many claims.
He also claimed Stanton Friedman to be doing the same as Lazaar, lying to the public and only telling things that weve already heard about.
Originally posted by Diplomat
I don't understand how people like them could just "lose interest" though.
Originally posted by SuicideVirus
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Thousands of people asking them the same dumb questions over and over again. Thousands of people calling them liars. Thousands of people annoying them with their own sad tales of contact with alien Radar Worms from the Moon.
Nah, who could lose interest in the face of all that fun?
[edit on 11-4-2007 by SuicideVirus]
Originally posted by rocksolid
So this means all the efforts of our government to secretly reverse engineer and build spacecraft based on alien taechnology has been a waste of time?
or did I not understand something...?
Originally posted by JackCash
If there are over 100 species of aliens visiting earth, then why aren't we conquered?
Why haven't we been taken hostage or killed off, if there are over 100 species of extraterrestrials who can travel the stars and we can't?
Do we know from these beings if there are other planets like us who have yet to master that technology?