Why Don't you Beleive in God?

Everyone who does not beleive in God.

Tell me do you honestly beleive that all the magnificent universe came from the BIG BANG. That everything we know came from a ball the size of a basketball floating in nothingness.

Where did the basketball come from? What is the Nothingness?

The universe just is and always has been right?

Keep going back into the past and tell me where that basketball that created the big bang came from. Something had to put it there. I beleive that the God spoke of in the Bible put it there but everyone here should agree that some supreme being started it all.

*Not in his/her religion.

*Believes in a different form of god. Like Buddah for example.

Ok, lets turn it around....

Where did God come from?

God just always is, and always has been?

Ahh..see? we both share the same dilemma.....

But, there are even more problems with God....

How can a perfect being make an imperfect one? Isn't this a paradox?

Why should one revere a deity who, according to scripture, had his last personal appearance more than 2000 years ago.

How can a monotheistic religion consist of a God, a Demigod (Jesus, half god, half man), and a Lesser God (Satan)?

How can one believe a book which constantly contradicts itself?

Originally posted by Gazrok
Ok, lets turn it around....

Where did God come from?

God just always is, and always has been?

Ahh..see? we both share the same dilemma.....

But, there are even more problems with God....

How can a perfect being make an imperfect one? Isn't this a paradox?

Why should one revere a deity who, according to scripture, had his last personal appearance more than 2000 years ago.

How can a monotheistic religion consist of a God, a Demigod (Jesus, half god, half man), and a Lesser God (Satan)?

How can one believe a book which constantly contradicts itself?

~Cheers Gazrok.

Originally posted by Gazrok
Ok, lets turn it around....

Where did God come from?

God just always is, and always has been?

Ahh..see? we both share the same dilemma.....

But, there are even more problems with God....

How can a perfect being make an imperfect one? Isn't this a paradox?

Why should one revere a deity who, according to scripture, had his last personal appearance more than 2000 years ago.

How can a monotheistic religion consist of a God, a Demigod (Jesus, half god, half man), and a Lesser God (Satan)?

How can one believe a book which constantly contradicts itself?

I am not asking you to beleive in my god I am asking you do you beleive that some supreme being made the universe.

Because He/she/it doesn't believe in me....

hrxll

The nothingness and where the universe came from is the crux of human intelligence.

I think the universe came into being by an energy, but I don't think that is was made by a 'God' as an individual god-person. I think God is that vibrant-creating energy that started it all.

When I keep going back into the past, all I see is nothing--but wait, there is an intelligence, an order, that provided that spark of the universe.

The Buddha did not try to answer how the universe came into being.

If you think of it this way, before something is created, it comes from nothing. Like the human intelligence, before we create something tangible before our eyes, it is the intangible idea that sparks the flame. This provides an analogy of the greator universe's creation.

I am not asking you to beleive in my god I am asking you do you beleive that some supreme being made the universe.

Fair enough...you named him God, so I made an assumption...thanks for the clarification...

No, I do not.

Beginning and End are a human concept. It is not practiced in nature. In nature, and the universe, things work in cycles, not beginnings and ends. The big bang didn't start it all....nor was it the first "big bang". Eventually it (the universe) will collapse again, and it will all cycle....just as we see with stars, and everything else in nature.

I'd have to concur with the general idea of the Buddhist ideal above....

Well, Gaz...you Just Paired god up with the bible.
My first Guru had his first relevation from GOD himself.
This was 600 years ago.
We dont believe in satan, or any crap like that ethier.
Deep

Originally posted by Gazrok

I am not asking you to beleive in my god I am asking you do you beleive that some supreme being made the universe.

Fair enough...you named him God, so I made an assumption...thanks for the clarification...

No, I do not.

Beginning and End are a human concept. It is not practiced in nature. In nature, and the universe, things work in cycles, not beginnings and ends. The big bang didn't start it all....nor was it the first "big bang". Eventually it (the universe) will collapse again, and it will all cycle....just as we see with stars, and everything else in nature.

I'd have to concur with the general idea of the Buddhist ideal above....

mm I think in nature not everything cycles, if then that would mean that for instance we are also reborn, wich would make the idea of a god not so bad..besides the speed of expanding is i read still not slowin down so a recollapse is not sure..
For me BlJa i dont think a supreme being created the universe, the big bang, looks like it but i dont know that for sure ofcourse..but indeed, does adam and eve sound better to you ?
Pz, joz

Originally posted by Gazrok

I am not asking you to beleive in my god I am asking you do you beleive that some supreme being made the universe.

Fair enough...you named him God, so I made an assumption...thanks for the clarification...

No, I do not.

Beginning and End are a human concept. It is not practiced in nature. In nature, and the universe, things work in cycles, not beginnings and ends. The big bang didn't start it all....nor was it the first "big bang". Eventually it (the universe) will collapse again, and it will all cycle....just as we see with stars, and everything else in nature.

I'd have to concur with the general idea of the Buddhist ideal above....

What I am really wondering here is this. When I was a teenager I went through a stage when I questioned the exsistence of God because I thought to myself who created God and who Created the guy that created God and so on and so forth.

Now when I think about it something had to create it all. Something had to set all of the big bangs in motion. I just think its naive to beleive that everything just sorta happened.

Of Course this is my personal opinion and I am very interested in hearing everyone elses beliefs

I think it takes more faith to believe that the universe was created by a Big Bang, but that's just my opinion.

because god supposebly takes care for everything. everything you do or hapens is because of it you have to do what god says to you. this is what the leaders say and what the bible / koran/ ect say. If so we have nothing to bring in and we will be slaves. A slave has to do what his master says to him and if he doesn't do it he will get punished. God does it also people say and there are many stories of them in the bible and koran. So if there is a god we will be slaves and today this is prohibited by law. So if there is a god and we are his slaves then god is a criminal because he broke laws. global laws from the UN ect.

Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
because god supposebly takes care for everything. everything you do or hapens is because of it you have to do what god says to you. this is what the leaders say and what the bible / koran/ ect say. If so we have nothing to bring in and we will be slaves. A slave has to do what his master says to him and if he doesn't do it he will get punished. God does it also people say and there are many stories of them in the bible and koran. So if there is a god we will be slaves and today this is prohibited by law. So if there is a god and we are his slaves then god is a criminal because he broke laws. global laws from the UN ect.

I honestly don't think a supreme god would care too much about laws his creations make.

Ever read Nietzche? He had it down. God is dead. And we have killed him...

DE

Asking where God came from or where "He" began is liking asking where the starting point is on a circle.

Not every question has an answer.

We must all assess the world based on what is revealed to us, and what is revealed to us is what we ask for.

If you seek God, you will find Him.
That is my experience and my belief.

Peace,

+Jammer

Originally posted by DeusEx
Ever read Nietzche? He had it down. God is dead. And we have killed him...

DE

Talking about this quote

After Buddha was dead, his shadow was still shown for centuries in a cave - a tremendous, gruesome shadow. God is dead; but given the way of men, there may still be caves for thousands of years in which his shadow will be shown. -And we- we still have to vanquish his shadow, too.

Actually, I was talking about the parable of the madman from Thus Spake Zarathustra. But that is what I basically believe.

Before I ever had seen stargate I had the same ideas which later on I did see it in this serie. I still believe that is a much better explenation.

Let me just add to this if i can, i love it when people ask how can a perfect being create and imperfect being. But how can it be a perfect being if it dident experience imperfected.