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Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by WhiteWash
I am curious if this statement the late Mr. Schneider speaks of has any basis in "fact" as far as where he got this story from. Does anyone know if this story is documented anywhere? I searched but came up empty.
thank you.
Many of Phils stories came from the Branton Files (COSCON). Did you check there? Unfortunately there is no search reference or index specific to Branton. If I had the time I would look but there are hundreds of pages.
Originally posted by johnlear
Tim, the question was asked where the "banditos" story came from. I answered that it might be found in the Branton files. Is there a problem here?
Originally posted by Ghost01
Yes! I have searched the internet using BOTH Yahoo! and Google for this "branditos" and for the Branton files. I can't find a single thing ANYWHERE.
Beyond your word, I have NOTHING that proves either of these things even exist. For the moment, this seems like a phantom source that is impossible to find.
How are we going to follow up on information, if the listed sources can not be found? Where are these mystery files? Tim
Originally posted by Ghost01
Yes! I have searched the internet using BOTH Yahoo! and Google for this "branditos" and for the Branton files. I can't find a single thing ANYWHERE.
Tim
Originally posted by smartie
whitewash,
You can find all the docs you need here:
www.crowdedskies.com...
And Phil Schneider:
www.mt.net...
[edit on 5-4-2007 by smartie]
[edit on 5-4-2007 by smartie]
Originally posted by smartie
Tim,
Check this out:
documentaries.ws...
documentaries.ws...
documentaries.ws...
John Lear, a captain of a major U.S. Airline has flown over 160 different types of aircraft in over 50 different countries. He holds 17 world speed records in the Lear Jet and is the only pilot ever to hold every airman certificate issued by the Federal Aviation Administration. Mr. Lear has flown missions worldwide for the CIA and other government agencies. He has flown clandestine missions in war-zones and hot-spots around the world, often engineering hairs'-breath escapes under dangerous conditions. A former Nevada State Senatorial candidate, he is the son of William P. Lear, designer of the Lear Jet executive airplane, the 8-track stereo, and founder of the LEAR Siegler Corporation. John Lear became interested in the subject of UFO's 13 months prior to the date given below, after talking with a friend in the United States Air Force by the name of Greg Wilson who had witnessed a UFO landing at Bentwaters AFB, near London, England, during which three small 'gray' aliens walked up to the Wing Commander.
Originally posted by Ghost01
Yes! I have searched the internet using BOTH Yahoo! and Google for this "branditos" and for the Branton files. I can't find a single thing ANYWHERE.
How are we going to follow up on information, if the listed sources can not be found? Where are these mystery files?
Tim
Originally posted by Ghost01
WOW!
These are the Dulce Flies. I though these documents where made by John Lear, now I honestly am not sure what to say?This thing even has a section on the History of John Lear in it:
I have two questions for John:
How did you end up IN the Dulce Files?
originally posted by Ghost01
I'm Done!
quote: Originally posted by johnlear
Tim, this is the 5th time in 3 days that you have called me a liar. If you are going to keep that up you need to post proof exactly what I lied about.
First off, I reposted this because you ignored the whole issue I raised in my last post. I didn't mean you lied today, I meant it in general as I feel you ignored the point of my last post.
You have been building the evidence for the Dulce Base off of the Dulce Papers. Having written the Dulce Papers, you knew that you had written them off of things you had heard. For whatever reason, you seem to have purposly avioded telling everyone that you are the origional souce, but instead claim it's official. On March 26th, you wrote:
quote:
I mentioned in another thread, I was the one that published the "Dulce Papers". I made the pen and ink drawings from the originals which were drawn in pen
You have been using the "Dulce Papers" as you official Source. Every time someone has questioned anything you have said about Dulce, you promptly refrence these papers as the proof behind your story.
Either you got your information FROM these papers OR you WROTE them. If you create something, and then use it as a refence Time and Time again to prove your claims, you are lying. What makes it a lie is the fact that you are intentionally hiding the fact that you didn't get your information from the source, but that you are being your own source.
You can't use yourself as proof! Yet, you cosistently do it. What do you call it when someone intentionally Misleads others time, and time again with their words?
I'm sorry if you feel offended, but now you know how I'm feeling. Everytime I try to confront the issue, you seem to change the facts as needed to suit your claims.
I'm Done with this, take it or leave it!
Tim
originally by Ghost01 What part did you actually play in their creation and release?
Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by Ghost01
WOW!
These are the Dulce Flies. I though these documents where made by John Lear, now I honestly am not sure what to say?This thing even has a section on the History of John Lear in it:
I have two questions for John:
How did you end up IN the Dulce Files?
originally posted by Ghost01
I'm Done!
quote: Originally posted by johnlear
Tim, this is the 5th time in 3 days that you have called me a liar. If you are going to keep that up you need to post proof exactly what I lied about.
First off, I reposted this because you ignored the whole issue I raised in my last post. I didn't mean you lied today, I meant it in general as I feel you ignored the point of my last post.
You have been building the evidence for the Dulce Base off of the Dulce Papers. Having written the Dulce Papers, you knew that you had written them off of things you had heard. For whatever reason, you seem to have purposly avioded telling everyone that you are the origional souce, but instead claim it's official. On March 26th, you wrote:
quote:
I mentioned in another thread, I was the one that published the "Dulce Papers". I made the pen and ink drawings from the originals which were drawn in pen
You have been using the "Dulce Papers" as you official Source. Every time someone has questioned anything you have said about Dulce, you promptly refrence these papers as the proof behind your story.
Either you got your information FROM these papers OR you WROTE them. If you create something, and then use it as a refence Time and Time again to prove your claims, you are lying. What makes it a lie is the fact that you are intentionally hiding the fact that you didn't get your information from the source, but that you are being your own source.
You can't use yourself as proof! Yet, you cosistently do it. What do you call it when someone intentionally Misleads others time, and time again with their words?
I'm sorry if you feel offended, but now you know how I'm feeling. Everytime I try to confront the issue, you seem to change the facts as needed to suit your claims.
I'm Done with this, take it or leave it!
Tim
originally by Ghost01 What part did you actually play in their creation and release?
Tim. Are you kidding me?
Another strange story from an alternative source also backs-up the concept of underground bases involving alien life forms. In the late 1980s, Paul Bennewitz - a UFO researcher, discovered a report of an alleged abduction in New Mexico - Christine Tilton of Oklahoma, claimed she had been abducted by two grey aliens in July 1987. She described the events under hypnosis, revealing that she had been coerced into a saucer-shaped craft which took her to a hillside location where she was met by a man dressed in a red military type jump suit. From there, she claimed, she was taken through a tunnel ( with computerized check-points and security cameras ) and moved to another area by a transit vehicle. Here she was weighed and made to stand in front of a computer screen, following which she was given an identity card and was informed she had entered level one of an underground base. She was, eventually, taken to level five where she came across more of the small grey aliens and a number of the "saucer-type " craft. In an enormous chamber Tilton claims she saw computerized gauges connected to large tanks which gave off a smell of formaldehyde. She did not discover what these tanks contained but she was able to provide drawings and sketches of their exteriors. Bennewitz recognized the tanks she had drawn - he realized that they were almost identical to those shown in the Dulce Papers.
Originally posted by antar
With all of the alleged thieving of files from Los Alamos could there could have been an attempted coverup of stored information about the Dulce facility? Forgive if this has been asked before.
Originally posted by theutahbigfoothunter
Reptoids rightly consider themselves "native Terrans." Perhaps they are the ones we call the Fallen Angels. Maybe not, either way, we are considered the 'squatters' on Earth.
Originally posted by IronDogg
Originally posted by theutahbigfoothunter
Reptoids rightly consider themselves "native Terrans." Perhaps they are the ones we call the Fallen Angels. Maybe not, either way, we are considered the 'squatters' on Earth.
Yeah, I have heard this before, but I have always wondered if the Reptoids were natively here first and consider humans as "squatters", then why have they not just gotten rid of of us already, instead of allowing this human "pest" to continue to spread and desecrate the surface of their reptoid world?
Yes, I agree with this post John. I read a hand written letter from Phils first wife, I think his only wife, and she said he had gotten very suicidal in the early 1990's after she left him.
Also, Mr. Schnieder's parents concurred that he was a very troubled man.
Phil's suicide did not come as a surprise to even his own parents.
William Cooper did have allot to contribute, but, like so many good people with allot to offer, it was squandered.
Best regards
Roger M.