Contact With Extraterrestrials

Hank:

hm... maybe the antichrist is here dabbling with his souls

I'm just kidding- had to make the joke.

Spirituality is everything- literally. If it weren't for our spirits... we wouldn't be sitting in these chairs now- we ("we") created them.

I give you respect Hank in that you are dedicated to your cause. I think that is honorable. Where I disagree, is the direction of your cause. In some cases, one would think no proof is coming.

*I'm an alien general sent to Earth. Can I prove this? No.

*I'm santa claus, and I gave you that tricycle for Christmas 10 years ago. Can I prove this? No.

*I sleep with my eyes open. Can I prove this? You get my point...

When it comes to these types of things, proof isn't coming. I respect your cause- I aggree proof is vital. However, it is my opinion that laying the foundation is more vital and top priority.

p.s. Everyone has a right to their religion. Calling Jesus out, from your perspective- I can guarantee your bone to pick is the followers- not Jesus or his message. By the way, i'm not Christian. Laying the foundation Hank, that's all that's going on.

Originally posted by IamnomanasIamallman
Everyone has a right to their religion. Calling Jesus out, from your perspective- I can guarantee your bone to pick is the followers- not Jesus or his message. By the way, i'm not Christian. Laying the foundation Hank, that's all that's going on.

Santa, being a widely known imaginary character created by a priest and given an image by the Coca-Cola company is a pretty good reference, seeing as this new breed of God-Aliens are created by new age holymen and given an image by authors selling books. ....But I digress...

Like I said before, I am not about to step on the toes of those having religous experiences, but lets label them what they are, and put them where they belong. Change the name of this thread to "Contact with Jesus" and it would be in the religous forum, and seeing as the OP believes Jesus was an Alien.. maybe that is where it belongs, eh?

Also, I would be interested in known what we are laying the foundation FOR.. but I think it would be best in a different thread, or maybe even in a u2u. I look forward to it if you decide to share

As for my involvement in this thread, I am done. Please direct any replies to me via a u2u, as not to derail the thread any further, mates.

Originally posted by spiritconnections
In working with my guide, I have only received spiritual information which is useful work understanding the spiritual nature of the universe and how to more quickly reunite with the Universal Spirit.

Very interesting thread SC and I'm glad you've posted it on ATS. There are a few guidelines that perhaps you aren't aware of though. When a thread is based on the spiritual aspects of aliens and their teachings on spirituality the thread should go into the spiritual forum on BTS or perhaps Skunkworks. If you try to stay on the A & U forum with it the thread will disintegrate with angels vs. demon arguments, Jesus, reincarnation, and anti-spiritual contactee skeptic attacks etc. etc. and the A & U forum is not the proper location for those discussions.

Have a look at both the Spiritual forum and the Skunkworks forum and see which is best for you. My personal opinion is that it would be a better fit in the spiritual forum.

Looking forward to reading more,

STM



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[edit on 24-1-2007 by seentoomuch]

Originally posted by spiritconnections

Originally posted by Mr Totality
care to elaborate on how the contact is made. I would love to meet a "guide"

Initial contact is made with a guided meditation my extraterrestrial guide, Gabriel, gave to me. You can download it for free from the site in my signature. It's called the Extraterrestrial Guide Hypno-Meditation. Let me know about your experience.

So how did you make initial contact if you need this guide that was given to you after you met your "guide"?

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Didn't the Bible warn us about demons that would fool us as beings of light?

Now wait just a minute there Hank. Let me respectfully ask where your proof is that there is one shred of evidence that those collection of tall tales bound together in a tome called 'The Bible' represent anything but allegory.

"Didn't the Bible warn us..." Are you trying to fool us HankMcCoy? You don't actually take all of that literally do you? Next thing we are going to hear is that you actually believe that there was a person called "Jesus". Talk about Dulce being unprovable.

Originally posted by spiritconnections

Initial contact is made with a guided meditation my extraterrestrial guide, Gabriel, gave to me. You can download it for free from the site in my signature. It's called the Extraterrestrial Guide Hypno-Meditation. Let me know about your experience.

Two quick questions:

1. Do all alien guides have Earthly/Biblical names (Gabriel), or did you just make that name up because our tiny human brains cannot comprehend/type the name of an alien guide?

2. Will you assume criminal/civil liability if I try your method of contacting my guide and have a traumatic/threatening experience due to a guide that is scary/malicious?

thx.

Originally posted by greerISaFraud
Will you assume criminal/civil liability if I try your method of contacting my guide and have a traumatic/threatening experience due to a guide that is scary/malicious?

thx.

You've got... to be kidding me. You're 14 and you live in Ohio don't you. This is rediculous...

Originally posted by spiritconnections
In this case, I suppose the strongest evidence is in the pudding. In other words, those who have met their guides through the hypno-meditation have spoken of their experiences and have grown spiritually.

That isn't evidence that the experiences are anything other than fantasy. It may be true that they are USEFUL experiences in that they make a person into less of a jerk, more interested in the environment, in peace, etc, but Buddhism might do the same thing and that doesn't make Buddhism true.

Why is it that I get the feeling as a skeptic here that I'm like a non-christian in a church service who dares to raise his hand and ask a question? You might point out that (in my metaphor) I shouldn't BE in church, or if i go I should just hold my tongue.

BUT THIS IS NOT CHURCH. We're not talking about religion here. We're talking about aliens and ufos. And I'm gonna ask questions. If I interrupt the choir, I don't give a rat's posterior.

Damn it, I wanted to listen to this earlier but didn't have time.. Now that I do, I can't get at the file via streaming or via a MP3 download from the service hosting it... Anyone have any ideas?

This is SC's first day on the forum and he deserves some leeway. I read that he/she is in Korea and the time zone difference makes it difficult to reply during prime time, so back off and let him come back to the board and decide where he wants to move the thread to. In the meantime please don't post your low wit anti posts on his thread as they will not be appreciated once he is in the proper forum. Remember, this is his first day here. Thanks,

STM


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I can't download it from your page. Is there a way you could put it on youtube or something?

Seen2much - your insight and guidance is appreciated and welcome, as always...

One tiny caveat to your last post however: Our OP on this thread may be here on his/her first day, but he/she may also be here on their first day AS THIS MEMBER only - with the possibility that the OP may be a 'reincarnated' former member threading on as a pseudonym; w/ a motivation unknown...

Not saying that's the case here, in fact it probably is not. But we know it is technically possible, and with some of the postings we've all seen here on occasion, we can not dismiss the potential, however remote or unethical, of such an occurrence.

In any event, I'm looking forward to further interesting 'revelations' that may come from this thread, and also to your own timely morsels of mitigating wisdom.

Thanks - and keep looking up!

Originally posted by IronDogg
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Also, when I was downloading the file, "ExtraterrestrialGuideHypno-Meditation.mp3", another file started to download as well, called: "etguidefinal.mp3". They are both 30.7MB. Which file should I use and what is difference between the both of them?

Any chance you could send me those MP3 files? I could put it on a fast FTP for some people to grab from there while the site is down... I've just got some time and I am always open to giving someone's theory a chance.

Originally posted by Mr Totality
I am not 100% certain of what is being refered to as astral?

When I refer to astral meetings with extraterrestrial guides, I am speaking of the very real astral body traveling to meet guides. This can either be done in a deep state of meditation or in a sleep state.

Originally posted by HankMcCoy

Originally posted by johnlear

Originally posted by HankMcCoy Do you have any evidence of anything you are claiming?

Hank, I think you could answer that question yourself. Although everybody respects your right to ask questions some of us grow weary of the same question over and over and over. It should be obvious (but maybe its not to you) that there is not going to be any evidence that will satisfy you in these types of threads.

Nobody is trying to perpetrate a hoax here. People are just trying to share the extraterrestrial experience.

So Hank, with all due respect to your right ask questions, when you know what the answer is going to be why don't you just let it go? Your not contributing anything of substance to these threads except wasting everybodys time.

Thanks for your understanding Hank and I look forward to seeing a post from you that actually contributes something, or some type of information on ATS.

And what do threads like this contribute to Ufology? This is 1920's Spiritualism repackaged for the masses. It's doesn't have a place in the UFO and aliens forum in the first place.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not one to step on the toes of a true believer, but religon is religon, and is not defined by whether or not you are worshiping 'gods' or 'aliens'.

The OP is not forwarding any ideas other than those of a SPIRITUAL nature.

And with all due respect, Mr. Lear, I know that my scandalous questioning for proof may be frowned on by some, but even YOU offer evidence for your claims of life on the moon. I would not have returned to this thread had my post not been quoted, because you are right, I can and DID answer my question for myself, but not to ASK the question seems dishonest to me.

I will be the first to admit that the philosophy I have is of a spiritual nature. And that this philosophy is from an extraterrestrial entity. That is why, I think, it belongs in the aliens/UFO forum. It may not contribute much at all to the physical study of extraterrestrial craft and beings, but it goes a long way to further spiritual awakening in league with extraterrestrial beings.

Originally posted by tomra
Actually, Hank has a very valid point in this thread.

spiritconnections, what makes you think this is ET channeling and not some other form of entity/spirit? I mean, to me it appears that there´s a wide variety of entities floating around and also channeling´s of spirits who do not step forward as ET´s. Even tho they could be ET´s in the same context that we are ET.

Hm...we should define "ET" because in this context there´s no such thing since we are all a part of the same universe regardless of galactic geography. Wow, i believe i just invented the phrase "Galactic Geography", cool

Gabriel is very clear that he is a physical extraterrestrial beings from the planet Cyrcadia. Also, I was taken aboard their ships at the age of 4 and 7 - strangely enough not since. I am convinced that my guide is of extraterrestrial origin as are others who have partaken in the guided hypno-meditation.

Originally posted by HankMcCoy

Originally posted by IamnomanasIamallman
Jesus Hank...

Would you please start a thread, beg for it to get stickied, and then stop it? You are getting very repetitive. I watched ATS for a while before I joined, and all I hear from you is "proof proof proof". Silence yourself please- aliens exist, let us big kids have a discussion ok?

Sorry for to be rude, but this is way overboard on your part; enough is enough!

What exactly is overboard? My initial asking (Mind you I asked.. ONE TIME) for evidence, or responding to a post directed at me?

Evidence for a claim SHOULD be the rule, not the exception, yet here in the UFO and Aliens forum, evidence seems to take a back seat sometimes. Not all the time, mind you, there are loads of fantastic threads heaping with evidence, but what is STRIKINGLY similar about all of the 'contactee' cases lately is their insistance on SPIRITUALITY.

It is almost as if contactees feel the need to meld Jesus with Aliens so that a belief in aliens doesnt get in the way of their belief in Jesus. That seems to be the case, quite literally with this thread.

Didn't the Bible warn us about demons that would fool us as beings of light?

I did not endeavor to meld Jesus with extraterrestrials. That information was given to me by Gabriel without my asking. Jesus was an incarnation of an extraterrestrial entity named Yeshua. Now, just because I say it does not mean you have to believe it (as I'm sure you do not). Just take it for what it is - an experiential message I believe to be true based on my relationship with my guide.

Hi Outrageous!

As you know I’m a big believer in redemption and resurrection, so if SC is a former member I would hope that he has repented his past misbehavior to Springer? (Am seeing Springer with a robe and halo, am ROFL) and that SC will do his best to be honest, upfront and considerate in his responses and also to realize that his IP address could be checked.

Best wishes and yes, you’re right, we should always be looking up, good to see you again,

STM




[edit on 24-1-2007 by seentoomuch]

Originally posted by seentoomuch

Originally posted by spiritconnections
In working with my guide, I have only received spiritual information which is useful work understanding the spiritual nature of the universe and how to more quickly reunite with the Universal Spirit.

Very interesting thread SC and I'm glad you've posted it on ATS. There are a few guidelines that perhaps you aren't aware of though. When a thread is based on the spiritual aspects of aliens and their teachings on spirituality the thread should go into the spiritual forum on BTS or perhaps Skunkworks. If you try to stay on the A & U forum with it the thread will disintegrate with angels vs. demon arguments, Jesus, reincarnation, and anti-spiritual contactee skeptic attacks etc. etc. and the A & U forum is not the proper location for those discussions.

Have a look at both the Spiritual forum and the Skunkworks forum and see which is best for you. My personal opinion is that it would be a better fit in the spiritual forum.

Looking forward to reading more,

STM



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[edit on 24-1-2007 by seentoomuch]

I see. Thank you for your guidance in this matter, and feel free to move it to a forum you think is more appropriate. Just let me know where you move it, since I'm a newbie and have no idea how things work here~

Originally posted by joemustard

Originally posted by spiritconnections

Originally posted by Mr Totality
care to elaborate on how the contact is made. I would love to meet a "guide"

Initial contact is made with a guided meditation my extraterrestrial guide, Gabriel, gave to me. You can download it for free from the site in my signature. It's called the Extraterrestrial Guide Hypno-Meditation. Let me know about your experience.

So how did you make initial contact if you need this guide that was given to you after you met your "guide"?

Good question. I met Gabriel through meditation. After meeting him, he gave me the guided meditation to better help people meet their extraterrestrial guide. Of course, the meditation is not necessary - it simply helps.