"If you could ask a time traveler a question what would you ask?"

I wanted to test this out and see if I can embed my radio show here, if it works, the first 20 minutes or so explains where I am coming from.

it did not work so go to my last radio post from 3-11-2007 on my site, sorry.

Peace

(edited cause test failed)

[edit on 12-3-2007 by timedrifter]

"How did you get here?"

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
"How did you get here?"

in what sense? do you mean this forum? time machine? not sure how you mean.

OH MY GOD not this again so i guess you are jhon titor's broter now right??? thats is my question by the way

Originally posted by timedrifter

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
"How did you get here?"

in what sense? do you mean this forum? time machine? not sure how you mean.

Whoops! I didn't read far enough to know someone was claiming to be a time traveller.

Mine is a simple enough question that any rational, sincere being should be able to understand. There's no need to be evasive.

Sincerely, thank you for the time and effort you spent in thinking through your question and generously posting it here.

A note to anyone wishing to simply get something off of their chest at my and timedrifter's expense - we will not be responding to you.

By posting in this thread you send this topic back to the top of the "Skunk Works" thread and bring more attention to yourself and this topic.

If you wish to alert or save people from falling victim to this obvious ruse, the best way to do so is to prevent them from encountering this thread and allowing it to vanish to the bottom of the pile.

Continuing to argue your point in this thread will not elicit proof or acknowledgment of fault from the OP, and has not so far garnered you any support, so continuing in such a fashion is obviously absurd and fruitless.

If you wish to bring more attention to yourself, or this topic, please continue to post sincere questions, or conversely, to post vacuous tripe.

To those that believe this is all a complex fabrication created to mislead and draw attention, repeating this proposition ad infinitum does not by sheer force of will make it true.

If one more poster places a nonsensical, disrespectful, meaningless, non-constructive post, then by your efforts, this thread will move back to the top of the Skunk Works section, and you will have gained notoriety as someone simply seeking attention, and not wishing to constructively add to the thread, but who will have benefited myself and timedrifter by pushing this thread back to the top of the pile and earing us points. Thank you.

If it is worth that much to you please continue to post, for it benefits both yourself and the OP. Unfortunately, your posts will no longer be responded to.

I'll ask you the same question,

"How did you get here?"

There are many answers to your question: By boat. By plane. By walking here. I was birthed. I typed in an Internet address. I clicked on "Skunk Works". By using my office computer. By using my home computer. By car. I just found it. I hitched from Washington state. I rode with my sister-in-law. I defected. I was extradited.

What do you mean by "here"? The state? The country? The website? The planet? Skunk Works? This thread? The solar system?

Mine is a simple enough question that any rational, sincere being should be able to understand.

Neither myself nor TD are rational, sincere beings, so you will need to be specific.

I believe that everyone's opinion should be respected, and everyone should be treated with the same courtesy.

However, if you opt to be disrespectful, rude, or deliberately mean to simply cause trouble, TD and I will not respond to your post at all.

We won't engage in frivolous arguments and waste our time and everyone else's time.

So please post on topic and at least be courteous, otherwise you will be a ghost. If your questions are not serious, sincere and respectful, then you will be treated as a non-entity.

Any sincere posters can understand why we must take this stance. We understand that this is a controversial subject, and our claims are just as unbelievable.

However, please keep in mind that this thread is in the speculative section, and that it is not necessary to log in and type a post to assert your incredulity; especially at the expense of civility.

If you do not believe in TD's story, or time travel, I would suggest not seeking out such posts and instead simply avoiding them.

To purposely seek out a thread you don't agree with - that is posted in the speculative section of a website, and post insulting, derogatory, and slanderous posts speaks more about the person making the post than the intended victims.

If you would like to draw more attention to your ineptitude and more points to my own ATS pile, please continue to restate your positions. There may be an angle on "I don't believe this story" that hasn't been covered.

Otherwise, go in peace. The people you are insulting by presuming they don't have the wherewithal to avoid the siren's call of outrageous time travel stories do not exactly thank you for underestimating them. People are smart enough to make up their own mind without you making it up for them.

This is the last I will post on inconsiderate posts in this thread. We are here because we want to share a story. Believe it or not. We are not here to debate specifics, or to offer proof of our claims, but to share our experiences and beliefs.

If it is too much to bear, then by the gods move on. TD and myself could not bear it if we were to be the cause of another's suffering. Read no longer. Away with you.



[edit on 12-3-2007 by OnTheDeck]

I would ask

"how did you make your time machine?"

any other question i can find out by traveling through time myself.

hi mate. well I am really open minded and I think I opened much more my mind after several 'weird' experiences I had, including having dreams that after some time came true, like premonitions. all the people can call me crazy but in one of my 'out of body' experiences I was able to ocupy 2 places at same time (bizarre isnt it?!) so all those stuff opened my mind and I sincerely believe many of the stuff we see in the movies are REAL!...What happens to our people nowadays is that they are blind. The system uses the media to manipulate them. The manipulation begins when you first go to school...it is like the force you to think in a certain way.

About time traveling I feel I have to travel back in time and even to paralel worlds...I really dont know why is that as it sounds really nuts but I really have. All I seek is the truth, help other people and also help people understand they must change in several aspects for the future that is coming. So yes I would like to volunteer in time travel. So I ask your friend what is necessary to be able to volunteer and get chosen to help in missions, etc, etc...what kind of skills and what kind of thing I have to provide in order to get contacted. I wanna make it clear that if I get contacted to join the time trips I will be helpfull and not use it only for fun and/or self gain. Now a different question:
as you stated, testing the grandfather paradox and go and killing your grandpa in the past is really idiot independently if u are going to vanish or not, plus it is so destructive and a waste of time if you know what I mean, so I ask... is it possible to prevent a person´s death and if you prevent it what consequences will it have in general aspects?...about the spirit, if we all have an spirit that will separate from our body as soon as our 'mission' here on Earth ends, what happens to a person whose natural death was prevented ?
btw, if you and your friend are interested in someone serious and with good good intentions please PM me and I can give u my email address/icq number.
thk u for your time and ignore those people that simply go and flame without having proves about whether this is real or not. when we are not 100% sure about something being real or not we must always leave an open door!!
ah sorry one last question...
will in the future, life after death be proven? or will it be proven that life after death doesnt exist at all ?....
thanks

[edit on 13-3-2007 by Edu]

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
Neither myself nor TD are rational, sincere beings, so you will need to be specific.

I think we've established that. hehe.

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
I believe that everyone's opinion should be respected, and everyone should be treated with the same courtesy.

Unless you find errors in the story, then you will be called names and shouted at to get out of the thread.

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
We won't engage in frivolous arguments and waste our time and everyone else's time.

Translation: If you are here to question our story, or make us work to explain ourselves, we don't want to hear it.

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
To purposely seek out a thread you don't agree with - that is posted in the speculative section of a website, and post insulting, derogatory, and slanderous posts speaks more about the person making the post than the intended victims.

To purposely post a hoax is against the terms and conditions of this site. Uncovering those hoaxes is part of what this site is all about. Don't come here posting a story and expect the members here to kneel before you and listen to your every word and NOT question the tale. I'd say at least half the members on the boards actively seek out things with an eye on the side of disproving the story.

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
This is the last I will post on inconsiderate posts in this thread. We are here because we want to share a story. Believe it or not. We are not here to debate specifics, or to offer proof of our claims, but to share our experiences and beliefs.

I've got five bucks says it won't be the last.

How can you post a story as amazing as this, swear it is 100% truth, then backpedal and say it is only speculative, have your time traveller admit that he is building a following (for what I don't know) and then get upset when people question the errors in your story? How can you not expect the folks at this site to not agrue over things like inconsistencies or errors in your story? It's what we do here. Have you not checked some of the other threads out? People here will spend months debating over almost any little minute blip in a story. It's fun. It's Entertainment or, as you might say

S-P-E-C-U-L-A-T-I-O-N

personaly I prefer entertainment but it is your thread so speculate away but don't pass it off as factual if it isn't.

thanks for bumping the thread again crakuer! did you get your praise yet?
did you listen to the radio show?? get off the * explicit comment removed *!!

tokyo rose, are you a time traveler too? cheers!

edu, your story sounds wild, would you be interested in being on the radio show? you too tokyo rose.

razor, just shut up, your as funny as not at all.



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[edit on 13-3-2007 by 12m8keall2c]

Please keep adding points to my ATS pile.

I will repeat myself - just because you repeat your position ad infinitum does not, by sheer force of will, make it so.

You have been rude and inconsiderate, you have not honesty challenged TD's story in its entirety, but battled with TD and myself, using your own perception and belief system as a battering ram.

Just to be absolutely perfectly clear - this thread is not to offer proof. This means that we are telling a story without proof. This is why this thread was placed in the speculative section.

The admins, fortunately, do not share your opinion, and they have allowed us to share our views here in a "speculative" section of this website.

Please keep posting. I am placing you on ignore. You are the first person to warrant my doing so.

I believe in civil, open discussion. Unfortunately, that is not what you are here for. You are creating a tempest in a teapot, so to speak, and you're wasting your own as well as everyone else's time.

Had you shown a modicum of courtesy I might have taken your posts seriously, but it's become clear that that was not your intention. So now you can shout your objections in the dark.

Hopefully many people will get to enjoy your personal lambastes, which clearly continue to your own detriment.

Peace be with you. Live long and prosper, and welcome to the void.

[edit on 13-3-2007 by OnTheDeck]

Originally posted by timedrifter
get off the * explicit comment removed *!!

Wow. Such a temper. Is it so upsetting to you that people question your story, find mistakes in your "facts" and ask for something more tangible than your mom's word as evidentiary proof that you would resort to these kinds of attacks?


I'm flattered by the way, but I don't swing that way. Thanks for thinking of me though.


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[edit on 13-3-2007 by 12m8keall2c]

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
You have been rude and inconsiderate, you have not honesty challenged TD's story in its entirety, but battled with TD and myself, using your own perception and belief system as a battering ram.

Lies about the IRS Montauk visit tell a bigger picture. You have nothing to go on but your story as you have already stated you have no proof of this entire tale ever happening. So, if you cannot prove the story, then it is the facts surrounding the story that shall be looked into. That visit to the IRS office in Montauk was a blatant lie. The facts surrounding the story are lies, the story is then suspect. An honest challenge to a dishonest story.

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
The admins, fortunately, do not share your opinion, and they have allowed us to share our views here in a "speculative" section of this website.

It's a mystery to me (and others) that this hasn't been called a hoax by the mods. How can you declare that these events happened and then say they are speculative. How can Mel Gibson verify an event that is speculative? It's true or it isn't. You guys claim 100% truth and accuracy, that ain't speculation, that's declaration.

I emailed your questions to TD and gave him a heads up. I would like to respond on my own time also, but he responded, so I'll post his responses below.

Thanks again for your questions.

1) What is necessary to be able to volunteer and get chosen to
help in missions?

RESPONSE: Simply state that you want to volunteeer here in this message board or enter your contact info on the "time travel volunteers" link.

2) What kind of skills and what kind of thing I have to provide in order to get contacted?

RESPONSE: Any way you would like to be contacted.

3) Is it possible to prevent a person´s death and if you prevent it what consequences will it have in general aspects?

RESPONSE: It is possible but not always carried out due to the future implications and possible loss of other life.

4) If we all have an spirit that will separate from our body as soon as our 'mission' here on Earth ends? What happens to a person whose natural death was prevented ?

RESPONSE: They continue to live of course, future is changed at that point.

5) Will in the future, life after death be proven, or will it be proven that life after death doesn't exist at all?

RESPONSE: Yes, it will be common knowledge.

I will respond more when I get a chance. Thank you very much for your post!!

Your experiences are very intriguing. You said it sounds nuts, but to me I've heard it all now. In fact, I've heard a lot of similar stuff from so many sources that now I'm taking a closer look at it all.

Thanks again!! Will post more later...

Peace!

sorry moderators, I did not mean to use profanity, there is no pleasing crakuer. we are trying to be as honest as possible and explore the story at hand our selves and he is persistantly trying to be an initializer, he or she will not be satisfied until I am banned from here for the mantauk mistake I may have made, is it OK if I call him or her a little girl at this point? I am doing my best to ignore this "person" but he is starting to insult me with continued antagonizing.

Hi

Thank you for the fast reply, bud. well I will look for the link and will apply for the time travel volunteering. I dont know if this issue is true or not, but I know my limitations so I cannot simply fully deny or agree to anything, never, even if proven right or proven wrong. why ? ... simply because everything we know is subject to a change. About people criticizing and saying your story is fake/hoax ignore them because they are also ignoring possibilities. About my story I have much more to tell but I dont think it would be apropriate in a public forum. Of course I can tell you on private messages, e-mail or instant messengers. What I know right now is that I need time/interdimensional traveling. I dont know why really but I am sure it is something really interesting and important. So will find the link and give some contact info.

for now I have 3 more questions... but hopefully they are not boring hehe.

1) time travel seems to be something too amazing and too hard to be acomplished but I bet someone one day will think and get to conclusion that we were always making things too dificult and probably using some other kind of energy or methods time travel could be acomplished in a much easier way. is that true??.... because u know, there are usually more than 1 way to achieve the same thing...harder and easier ways.

2) Is it possible to travel to the same time line (world line) and change something and see the effects, evertything in the same time line (eg. NOT creating alternate universes) ?

3) will it be proven some time in the future that dreams can disclose important things, even show us the future, and that it is possible to mentally travel through time and travel to paralel worlds?
I have a theory after many weird experiences :
Some times when we dream we are able to mentally connect to our paralel selves in alternate realities and experience what they hear/see/feel/think and when we wake up we remember (or not ) those experiences. u guys believe me or not but I had a dream in which an event happened and I felt and remembered everything after waking up. It was terrifying and bizare n I didnt care much... Several months later that even happened in a really similar way and thks to that dream (in which prepared me psychologically) I was able to prevent a loved one´s death.
so please ask him if there is some connection between dreams - mental time/dimension travel and alternate realities ??? ...

PS: Please can you provide the link to where I should put my contact info to apply ? cant find it ...if you wish I can send you via PM too and will prolly be better as I can tell u stuff with a bit more detail...

thank you very much!

[edit on 13-3-2007 by Edu]

hi mate. well I dont know about going to ur radio. I am shy and a bit reserved but for sure would like to share ideas and experiences and if u really have a radio station then u are a lucky guy! I believe radio waves can travel through time and who knows to paralel universes.

Originally posted by Edu
Hi

Thank you for the fast reply, bud. well I will look for the link and will apply for the time travel volunteering. I dont know if this issue is true or not, but I know my limitations so I cannot simply fully deny or agree to anything, never, even if proven right or proven wrong. why ? ... simply because everything we know is subject to a change. About people criticizing and saying your story is fake/hoax ignore them because they are also ignoring possibilities. About my story I have much more to tell but I dont think it would be apropriate in a public forum. Of course I can tell you on private messages, e-mail or instant messengers. What I know right now is that I need time/interdimensional traveling. I dont know why really but I am sure it is something really interesting and important. So will find the link and give some contact info.

for now I have 3 more questions... but hopefully they are not boring hehe.

1) time travel seems to be something too amazing and too hard to be acomplished but I bet someone one day will think and get to conclusion that we were always making things too dificult and probably using some other kind of energy or methods time travel could be acomplished in a much easier way. is that true??.... because u know, there are usually more than 1 way to achieve the same thing...harder and easier ways.

2) Is it possible to travel to the same time line (world line) and change something and see the effects, evertything in the same time line (eg. NOT creating alternate universes) ?

3) will it be proven some time in the future that dreams can disclose important things, even show us the future, and that it is possible to mentally travel through time and travel to paralel worlds?
I have a theory after many weird experiences :
Some times when we dream we are able to mentally connect to our paralel selves in alternate realities and experience what they hear/see/feel/think and when we wake up we remember (or not ) those experiences. u guys believe me or not but I had a dream in which an event happened and I felt and remembered everything after waking up. It was terrifying and bizare n I didnt care much... Several months later that even happened in a really similar way and thks to that dream (in which prepared me psychologically) I was able to prevent a loved one´s death.
so please ask him if there is some connection between dreams - mental time/dimension travel and alternate realities ??? ...

PS: Please can you provide the link to where I should put my contact info to apply ? cant find it ...if you wish I can send you via PM too and will prolly be better as I can tell u stuff with a bit more detail...

thank you very much!

[edit on 13-3-2007 by Edu]

hey EDU, sorry i did not reply myself today, it is getting tough to do at work, I squeeze where I can.

to answer the questions:
1) free energy is what powers the machine, its like a crank machine, like the crank up radio, human power, many things are powered like this, the gear ratios I think are much different than the accepted configurations of gears in machines today.

2) Yes, I think we are living ith those results today and tomorrow.

3)Yes, I call that astral travel (meditation, out of body, etc) and I think it is possible to meet your time traveling self in the physical and non physical world indeed, I even recently speculated I switched bodies via astral travel, or I am going to maybe.

Originally posted by Edu
hi mate. well I dont know about going to ur radio. I am shy and a bit reserved but for sure would like to share ideas and experiences and if u really have a radio station then u are a lucky guy! I believe radio waves can travel through time and who knows to paralel universes.

yes you can find your way to the audio files through my signature, the radio and audio files are there.

there is always using skype to record the conversation, I spoke to my cousin in belo horizante and it was clear.

You said a lot in your posts! It's really cool that you are experiencing so many things.

You said,

I think I opened much more my mind after several 'weird' experiences I had, including having dreams that after some time came true, like premonitions.

This is certainly a reality. I've experienced a dream that came true and never forgot about it.

You also said,

all the people can call me crazy but in one of my 'out of body' experiences I was able to ocupy 2 places at same time (bizarre isnt it?!) so all those stuff opened my mind and I sincerely believe many of the stuff we see in the movies are REAL!

Not only is our journey on this planet connected to those sharing this earth, but we are also connected to every other being in this universe - more than that, we are one with, not just a part of, this universe. I experience this reality more and more deeply every day.

However, we are also on a personal journey. Each of us walks our own path, and the things we experience are often for us and us alone.

When we experience things that are for other people, or large numbers of people, there is a larger universal purpose or agenda there. But for the most part, our dreams and our experiences are ours alone. Each life is tailor made for each of us. We walk together, but we are on our own path.

The only proof you need of your experiences is simply your experience of them. They are yours. You can share this information with others, but it often either falls on deaf ears, or elicits envy, bitterness, or antagonism. It only matters how you are affected by these experiences. Let everyone else sort out their own stuff.

You also said,

What happens to our people nowadays is that they are blind. The system uses the media to manipulate them. The manipulation begins when you first go to school...it is like the force you to think in a certain way.

There is a program in place, particularly in the west, that people are wittingly, or unwittingly cooperating with; either as victims, or who operate as part of the machine.

There is no doubt that the system in place is a closed system, and is meant to suppress rather than to free - and this is in every sense of the word.

It's an oppressive machine, and a system such as this can only last for so long. It doesn't really matter anyway, because this system is going to meet a sudden end very soon and be replaced by a much simpler, but profoundly more effective system.

You said,

About time traveling I feel I have to travel back in time and even to paralel worlds...

Have need, will travel. You've pretty much signed up by offering to do so here, but I'll u2u you another link you can use to sign up.

You said,

I really dont know why is that as it sounds really nuts but I really have.

There is no such thing as crazy anymore. LOL It's the new sane.

Also,

All I seek is the truth, help other people and also help people understand they must change in several aspects for the future that is coming.

I am very curious about the things you see as coming to pass. Can you share a few of them? Just curious.

You asked,

what kind of skills and what kind of thing I have to provide in order to get contacted.

Your skills are simply your desire to help others. The only "program" to get with in this universe is that you are part of this universe, and every other being in this universe are your brothers and sisters. Now, I'm not saying hug the first ET that comes up to you, because some may bite LOL

But I'm saying, we are from the same creator, we are literally composed of the same "stuff", and they look out at the same universe around them that we do. Essentially we operate the same way. And I'm finding more similarities with these beings than differences.

Sgt. Clifford Stone says this same thing in his interview on Project Camelot. He wants you to note that we share physical characteristics with these beings that should show you that we are more alike than different. These are very "human" characteristics.

You asked,

is it possible to prevent a person´s death and if you prevent it what consequences will it have in general aspects?

There are consequences to actions that you would never think would have consequences, and conversely, where you think great alterations might be made by your actions, in reality very little may occur. It's all very strange.

I've asked TD if he could explain these seeming contradictions. He's said that sometimes even if you try to change events they still occur. After talking with him about these things, I've come to the conclusion that there are natural laws or barriers that operate despite our seeming ability to alter things.

It's very interesting. It's almost like god has a safety net. He has a larger plan in motion that we can toy with on a smaller level, but it seems it really is true about all things heading toward the same end result. And that end result is god, or whatever you want to call it.

You asked,

will in the future, life after death be proven? or will it be proven that life after death doesnt exist at all ?

I have to tell you that I've heard a lot about ET interaction with deceased persons. I've heard accounts of people who were alive having a spirit brought to them with the aid of a group of ETs so that spirit could communicate with the living person.

I also understand that ETs can travel at will to the place we consider "the other side". ETs, at least many of them, are actually interdimensional beings from what I've learned. As we learn more about multiple dimensions I know that part and parcel of that will be what we consider the other side.

All of these things are connected, but right now we have separated them and believe they are disconnected. The reality of this WILL become known to us.

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