"If you could ask a time traveler a question what would you ask?"

Originally posted by win 52
He has a blog? I didn't notice, or pay attention to it.

I have been trying to find someone who could convince me that I was insane, because of what I have been seeing. If crakeur could show me where I am wrong, with proof there of, rather than just spouting off, that would be great. The fact is that he is confused with the evidence, much like most people and so they deny that it exists, much like I had been doing.

you're not missing much on my blog as I don't write about the extraordinary. It's mostly comical rantings. If you have a sense of humor that is slightly twisted, you might enjoy it.

I never intended to prove that you are insane. I also don't recall even suggesting it. I do think that if you firmly believe you are talking to god or your future self, then there might be other issues involved. I personally don't believe that god talks to anyone nor do I believe that future selves come back to talk to us but you do and that is your business. Maybe I am the insane one as it seems so many people in this thread talk to god or future selves and I don't.

So, if you're looking for me to find proof that you are insane, all I can say is, if you think that might be the case, go see a shrink and let them determine your sanity.

OTD...you have been doing a lot of research... thanks for all the Info. I have been into a lot of the sites you posted, but there are some new ones to investigate.

Crakeur....It is "he" not "she", and I don't need to be saved.

There has been an error in judgement, putting this in skunk works. At least it is still here, so we can exchange thoughts and facts.

The stink that skunks spray
Keeps the predators at bay.

I was thinking about being one with creation.....Would not being a prairie wool plant, esisting to shelter and feed the animals as part of the food chain and living like this for thousands of years, be existing on a higher plain of conciousness? Devoting your existence to careing for the planet?

Then some sod buster comes along, wiping out your existence for the betterment of a society. Are we really better off or do we become slaves?

I have much more to learn, before I can become one with creation, this Earth, and my own spiritual existence.

Originally posted by win 52

Crakeur....It is "he" not "she", and I don't need to be saved.

Again, I never said you needed to be saved. I referred to God as a she for kicks. Sometimes a he, sometimes a she. God is whatever we want it to be. A bucket of fish, an all knowing orb in the sky etc.

Originally posted by win 52
There has been an error in judgement, putting this in skunk works. At least it is still here, so we can exchange thoughts and facts.

Seeing as both the original poster and TD have stated repeatedly that this all speculation (how it can be fact and speculation is incomprehensible to me by the way) and it belongs in skunk works. Where would you rather it be?

Originally posted by win 52
The stink that skunks spray
Keeps the predators at bay.

sorry about that. I had chili last night.

Originally posted by win 52
I was thinking about being one with creation.....Would not being a prairie wool plant, esisting to shelter and feed the animals as part of the food chain and living like this for thousands of years, be existing on a higher plain of conciousness? Devoting your existence to careing for the planet?

Then some sod buster comes along, wiping out your existence for the betterment of a society. Are we really better off or do we become slaves?

I have much more to learn, before I can become one with creation, this Earth, and my own spiritual existence.

ok, maybe you are insane

(I'm kidding)

I never intended to prove that you are insane. I also don't recall even suggesting it. I do think that if you firmly believe you are talking to god or your future self, then there might be other issues involved. I personally don't believe that god talks to anyone nor do I believe that future selves come back to talk to us but you do and that is your business. Maybe I am the insane one as it seems so many people in this thread talk to god or future selves and I don't.

Then I really have to wonder why you are here????

I will help you....you have had experiences that you are denying exist and have burried them in your subconcious mind. You are here because you have been tormented subconciously and are trying to get your concious self to admit to what you have experienced. It is a tough row to hoe for you. Have more faith in your own being, not what you are brainwashed into thinking.

Originally posted by win 52
I will help you....you have had experiences that you are denying exist and have burried them in your subconcious mind. You are here because you have been tormented subconciously and are trying to get your concious self to admit to what you have experienced. It is a tough row to hoe for you. Have more faith in your own being, not what you are brainwashed into thinking.

I do? You mean I too have been visited by my future self and I am suppressing this? Has Mel Gibson confirmed this? I take it all back TD, I'm with you on this. Apparently I've been tripping the time fantastic too!!!

Wow, I feel so....enlightened?

Originally posted by Crakeur

Originally posted by win 52
I will help you....you have had experiences that you are denying exist and have burried them in your subconcious mind. You are here because you have been tormented subconciously and are trying to get your concious self to admit to what you have experienced. It is a tough row to hoe for you. Have more faith in your own being, not what you are brainwashed into thinking.

I do? You mean I too have been visited by my future self and I am suppressing this? Has Mel Gibson confirmed this? I take it all back TD, I'm with you on this. Apparently I've been tripping the time fantastic too!!!

Wow, I feel so....enlightened?

That was me questioning your motives for what you are doing. I have also looked at some of your other posts, since that.

I do know what motivates me for being in here. It was out of curiosity as to why you are sticking around here. Reading your posts are confusing your motives a bit. That is understandable if you have a hidden agenda.

Originally posted by win 52
I do know what motivates me for being in here. It was out of curiosity as to why you are sticking around here. Reading your posts are confusing your motives a bit. That is understandable if you have a hidden agenda.

I'm a disinfo agent. Psyops, cointelpro etc.

that's my purpose. I know the truth and I don't want anyone to learn about it so I come here and find actual holes in people stories and I post them. Fortunately, there are actual holes and missteps so I don't have make stuff up like the folks telling the stories often do (lighten up guys, I'm not talking about you)

Originally posted by timedrifter
you are cheesy wanna be controller policer,
your cheesy accusations are not getting you far,

cheesy computer tech stories
cheesy coward
cheesy posts

I'm seeing a theme. Dairy farming perhaps? Does any of this have anything to do with cattle mutilation?

First I get the disinfo, then I get it again and now I am the cheese police.

I think I'll hire cheap trick to write me a theme song


The cheese police.....

Hey Win 52,
I say add craker (LIAR) to your ignore list, then poof, she is gone, it doesnt even show up on the thread after that!! maybe add her new girlfriend (yeahright) to the list too.

you know, its actually good these girls are here for us, cause we need examples to show how programmed and cowardly people are such as craker and her new girlfriend. I bet face to face they wouldnt say anything to us, they are side liners, pay no attention win52, they are trying to get us to blow our cool and get banned. they are diggin their own graves in the process though when the mods pick up on it.

after all, she is accusing us of being liars when remember, craker is a LIAR her self, she stated she contacted paris and mel and that turned out to be verbal diarrhea, so that makes the one accusing us of LIES turns out to be an attention wanting LIAR her self.

dont sweat it win 52, you found what you are looking for, forget them.

I'm terribly sorry. I didn't realize what a hardcase I was dealing with. Please carry on.

TD's not a hard case. Just a guy telling a story that involves made up stuff like phony IRS offices in towns that don't have IRS offices. I pointed out this gaffe and he decided to ask me for oral sex and now, it seems, he wants me to dress up like a girl for him.

whatever. He made stuff up and got busted. No big deal. It's a hoax in my mind but since his bot admits this is not true but, rather, only speculation, then it isn't a hoax. It didn't really happen. It might have or it might one day but, according to OnTheDeck it is speculation and not fact.

If they had said, up front, that "the things you are about to read are not fact, they are speculation" then I wouldn't have opted to find a few holes in the story. Now that OnTheDeck has admitted, repeatedly, that it isn't true, only speculation, I can see how they would make the mistake of saying there was alien contact outside the IRS office in Montauk. They make up phony business in entertainment all the time. Sometimes to avoid lawsuits. Sometimes it is merely to aid in the story. In this case, I am going with aiding the story as Mr. Drifter was, apparently, an employee of the IRS at some point and he, of all people, should know that there is no IRS office in Montauk and he, a NY resident, should have had the werewithall to look at a friggin map to find that the exit for montauk is not 52 but 71 and then you still have a long ways to go.

I think he just kind of tossed things out there for the sake of the story, not really worrying about the whole facts thing because, as OnTheDeck says, it's all speculation.



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Thank you for the synopsis. That clears up quite a bit. Interesting that TD finds it insulting to consider someone female. Personally, I like women, but to each his own.

I'll leave the alien assisted time travellers to their own devices. As fascinating as it all is.

Do we make it past 2012?

If so, what's the world like?

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Originally posted by Pararesearchwriter
Do we make it past 2012?

If so, what's the world like?

Yes we do in the physical world, not all of us, but as human beings (I assume thats what you mean when you say "we") we do go on to exist.

the earth has major natural disasters, continents shift as well as oceans, the inner earth becomes quite attractive (again) and many of us take a break from earth and go elsewhere such as other planets and mother ships.

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craker, can you and your girlfriend back off now, I am going to find the name of the right location but that does not excuse you from being a LIAR yourself, you little hoaxer. I admittingly made a possible mistake, you are an out right LIAR with make believe contacts in the entertainment industry. for a minute I thought you were for real and contributing too hoaxer

[edit on 15-3-2007 by timedrifter]

Originally posted by timedriftercraker, can you and your girlfriend back off now, I am going to find the name of the right location but that does not excuse you from being a LIAR yourself, you little hoaxer. I admittingly made a possible mistake, you are an out right LIAR with make believe contacts in the entertainment industry. for a minute I thought you were for real and contributing too hoaxer

so much for the ignore eh?

First off, you cannot backtrack now and say that it was a mistake on the IRS facility in Montauk. When I raised the issue you said it was in Montauk and you took exit 52 to get there. You seemed pretty adamant about it actually. Now, after it is clearly obvious that the lie was a lie, you will backtrack to no avail.

Second, I have explained my attempt to get something from Mel Gibson from one agent to another and that was that. I never claimed to know Gibson or Hilton, nor do I claim to time travel and trip the times with them. That is you. Why don't you get one of them to corroborate your story? When you come up with a tale and you want to be believed, you have to have some kind of evidence beyond "ask a really famous person about it and they will tell you were there." Might as well tell me to ask a dead person.

Lastly, I really think you have some kind of hostility issues here as you are very combative when your story is questioned. That is the purpose of this site. To question everything. If you can't take the heat......

Would it make you happier if I was a woman? Does that make it easier for you to cope with me incovering the lies? Do you rationalize your story being unravelled in Montauk by saying "some girl....." or do you just have a hatred for women? I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I'm a guy and I'm not even remotely feminine and I doubt if I would even look good in a dress.

TD, I just this in another member's sig and thought you'd get a kick out of it

Soooooo many posts...but where is it going?

It stands to reason that if this thread has been moved by the mods to the speculative sites, then SO BE IT. It's just moved, not deleted or debunked or anything bad. People have their reasons for doing things.

It doesn't deter me from asking questions or adding little tidbits here and there to enhance the thread PLUS come away with a better understanding of another human beings' viewpoint

However lately, it has been increasingly difficult to 'keep up' with the main plot, the gist of the storyline, due to the overwhelming bantering going on.
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I liken this thread to 'seeing a movie in the theater':

"I want to see the outcome of the movie, but unfortunately, there are people who want to rant and rave or tell me what 'comes next' or have their own take on the whole sha -bang. I'd love to tell them to sit down/keep quiet/ or go watch another movie elsewhere...so as to not ruin it for myself and everyone else."
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, that's true enough, but I wish people wouldn't act like pit bulls. It's like once they snap their jaws on an idea, they don't want to let go...then things just get out of hand and down right ugly after that.

Like I said before, I have watched this thread from its beginnings and would like to see a positive outcome.

I've made my rants (appologized for some) and know that WHAT I will get out of this post or any for the like, is what I contribute POSITIVELY. I envy people who are very elequent in their speeches, I wish I could be that way, but alas, I'm a down to earth person. I try my best to convey ideas that best way I can.

Holy moly, I've seen heated arguments before, for less important things?

It's just getting rediculous now!!!

'He's lying'!!! NO...'She's lying!!!

What a head spin.
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From a Shakespear play: TAKE IT IN THE SENSE THAT THOU WILST
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