UFOs are time traveling devices?!

Time as We currently know it is a relative illusion created by the Human species and measured through the revolutions of the Earth, and the speed of light is only set to relative perception. The "speed of light" is constantly variable and variability is its only constant.

If We are placed between Andromeda and Milky Way what do We have to measure time by? The ship experiment with Einstein and his imaginary twin brother was uncorrect.

Light Exists every where for ever and all ways has. What Mr. Mallet is attempting is consciousness travel. Energy is Eternal and the consciousness of energy for ever Exists, the "in-formation" that would Be received would Be conscious transmission, extraction, and reception of knowledge from the manipulation of conscious energy

[edit on 25-1-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

HI ABYDOS CARTOUCHE

Sorry to be persistant but can anyone say whether this is legitimate or not, I don't trust what the specialists say because their excuses are quite lame.

www.ufocom.org...

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Time is certainly not an illusion---any more than any other exceedingly well established phenomenon of natural law is an 'illusion'.

As Einstein put it: time is what clocks measure. This wasn't a flippant answer, it was the right one. Clocks are made out of atoms which have laws of physics that mean something: some stuff happens and other stuff does not happen.

Specifically the thermodynamics and underlying physics very clearly has time in it and it is essential part of explaining the observable world.

If time were 'illusory' then learning (change of brain state after versus before) wouldn't be possible. But it is.

That said, conceivably given the interrelation of the space-time metric in general relativity, if there were some magic way of engineering the metric for the purposes of faster than light travel, which is apparently necessary if we are to believe that UFOs are piloted by extraterrestrial people, that it is not surprising that such technology would intriniscally mean that time travel were possible, unless the laws of physics which we do not yet know (along with the magic gravity engineering technology) automatically prevented macroscopic time travel specifically.

SImilarly, a time machine is, by necessity, also "warp drive". If you go back in time you also have to go back to somewhere to some place, then.

The Earth is spinning around the Sun which is going around the galaxy etc, etc.

Originally posted by mbkennel

Time is certainly not an illusion---any more than any other exceedingly well established phenomenon of natural law is an 'illusion'.

"Time" is derived from the reality of illusion. What Humans see as "time" is the perception of less dense energy viewed moving in, of and around denser energy, and denser moving in, of and around less dense. "Time" is Not a natural law Nor are there any natural laws out of this illusional reality, that of limits. The unlimited and Perfect law of nature is that there are No laws. Why would a well established law Be referred to as a phenomenon? All things are simply Natural.

Here is a quote from Einstein since I noticed you used him as referrence.

"Reality is merely an 'illusion', albeit a very persistent one." Einstein was working in the reality of illusion when he made his discoveries and he let Us know. He, too, let Us know that one is an illusion. We are Omnified, We are not Everything as one nor one as Every thing, We are Everything. All is Not one Nor is one all, one Exists in and of the all, but is Not the all that all is.

Time is ostensible. Time is measurable, time has a beginning and an end; there is No beginning and there is No ending. Every thing all ways has Been. The Omni-verse, the consciousness, Existence, energy is/are Omni-measurable and un-measurable. Existence is Not a "bubble".

As Einstein put it: time is what clocks measure. This wasn't a flippant answer, it was the right one. Clocks are made out of atoms which have laws of physics that mean something: some stuff happens and other stuff does not happen.

Einstein was a brilliant man, yet consciousness evolves through re-membering its self and all ways surpasses its "past", this is an example of why time is an illusion and why the discoveries based on methods of time from great minds such as Einstein are eventually rendered obsolete, yet simultaneously Outfinitely important for the progress of the species.

Specifically the thermodynamics and underlying physics very clearly has time in it and it is essential part of explaining the observable world.

This is the fault of thermodynamics. It is why thermodynamics appears to never acquire completion. If you would like I could explain in detail as to why equillibrium is all ready achieved and in its Being, Be reaped by Humaniy through technology. Unfortunately this is Not in the best interests of those making money from controlled energy and many physicists/scientists are stuck on "60 year old" physics and ideology regarding Existence.

If time were 'illusory' then learning (change of brain state after versus before) wouldn't be possible. But it is.

It is Not time that is allowing for learning, it is learning that is allowing for learning, learning that allowed for time, and learning that allows for the comprehension of beyond concepts that are limited, such as time. The consciousness is extracting knowledge that all ready Exists and re-membering it into the brain, knowledge/"in-formation"/consciousness/Existence is/are Omnified, and the former process all so works in reverse. The knowledge is learning the extractor as the extractor learns the knowledge. They learn each other.

This process can Be viewed from the illusion of Earth based time as that is the choice of Our free will.

That said, conceivably given the interrelation of the space-time metric in general relativity, if there were some magic way of engineering the metric for the purposes of faster than light travel, which is apparently necessary if we are to believe that UFOs are piloted by extraterrestrial people, that it is not surprising that such technology would intriniscally mean that time travel were possible, unless the laws of physics which we do not yet know (along with the magic gravity engineering technology) automatically prevented macroscopic time travel specifically.

The relations of space/time is Not just a relation of "space/time". Every thing that Exists is space/time. Energy, matter, consciousness, imagination, Humans, thoughts, Eternity.

Every thing that Exists is energy, space included. The relation is energetically Eternal, all things are connected.

On the topic of faster than light travel. Light has Existed for ever, No big bang. Light is every where for ever. Dark is light and light is dark, dark does Not know its self lacking light and light is Not known lacking dark. All seen, and unseen is light and dark.

There are No laws of physics, laws are Human fear. When the Human is ready all laws will vanish and imagination will mutate from simply a beautiful concoction of the mind, to physical tangabilities.

Yet know all things are physical, including thought and imagination, all things can Be interacted with, manipulated, and witnessed visually. Now manipulation is Not manipulation and is merely Existence Existing naturally the only way that it can; in perfection. Perfection can Not Be manipulated : in to what? Imperfection? An un-Perfect Existence would cease to Exist.

SImilarly, a time machine is, by necessity, also "warp drive". If you go back in time you also have to go back to somewhere to some place, then.

The Earth is spinning around the Sun which is going around the galaxy etc, etc.

Beautifully said

There is a treasure on the other side of the river : Life/Evolution of a species

Every person throws a stone in the water for the next person to walk on, and as the deepest and most critical areas in the water are reached the stones become larger and heavier to pick up, but We gain confidence while watching others help each other across and finally We all pick up the largest stone together, throw it in the middle of the river and from there work Our way across to the treasure, the treasure that is shared by all of Us, the treasure that is Our accomplishment in reaching the other side and working together... the treasure is becoming Us and is reached half way through the task while working together to pick up the largest stone, We could stop there, but We know there is a better future on the other side and so We persue together, as a family, as a species, and We reach Our destiny by overcoming difficulties together. Through togetherness We can achieve Every thing. We all hold a piece of the puzzle to healing this plane

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t and We all hold a section of the stone. This is Our mid point. We can Not make it through if We do Not work together peacefully and for a common goal of Earthly tranquility. If we hold together We can achieve "time travel", stellar travel and planetary travel

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