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Originally posted by PHIN
LET'S BE HONEST. I FOR THE MOST PART AGREE THAT IRAQ HAD TO BE DEALT WITH. I DO NOT BELEIVE ANY AMOUNT OF SANCTIONS WOULD HAVE GIVEN ANY KIND OF POSITIVE RESULT. I ALSO FEEL THAT THERE WERE REASONS GIVEN FOR THE INVASION THAT HAVE PROVED TO BE EXAGERATED. I STILL KNOW THAT THE WORLD AND THE IRAQI PEOPLE ARE BETTER NOW THAN WITH HUSSEIN IN CHARGE.
NOW ON TOPIC..........THE SITUATION NOT SECURE AT THIS TIME. SPIES AND TERRORISTS ARE LOOKING FOR ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO GET IN. THE SAFEST WAY TO HIRE WOULD BE TO HIRE FROM THOSE COUNTRIES WHO HAVE AN INTREST FOR SUCCESS, AND NOT FAILURE. THERE IS AND ECONOMIC ANGLE TO THIS, BUT HEY, THE UNITED STATES IS A CAPITOLISTIC COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT BAD, IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS. ANYWAY, THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO CONTRACT FROM THE COALITION AND TO ME, IT SEEMS VALID.
Originally posted by Colonel
Originally posted by PHIN
LET'S BE HONEST. I FOR THE MOST PART AGREE THAT IRAQ HAD TO BE DEALT WITH. I DO NOT BELEIVE ANY AMOUNT OF SANCTIONS WOULD HAVE GIVEN ANY KIND OF POSITIVE RESULT. I ALSO FEEL THAT THERE WERE REASONS GIVEN FOR THE INVASION THAT HAVE PROVED TO BE EXAGERATED. I STILL KNOW THAT THE WORLD AND THE IRAQI PEOPLE ARE BETTER NOW THAN WITH HUSSEIN IN CHARGE.
NOW ON TOPIC..........THE SITUATION NOT SECURE AT THIS TIME. SPIES AND TERRORISTS ARE LOOKING FOR ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO GET IN. THE SAFEST WAY TO HIRE WOULD BE TO HIRE FROM THOSE COUNTRIES WHO HAVE AN INTREST FOR SUCCESS, AND NOT FAILURE. THERE IS AND ECONOMIC ANGLE TO THIS, BUT HEY, THE UNITED STATES IS A CAPITOLISTIC COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT BAD, IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS. ANYWAY, THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO CONTRACT FROM THE COALITION AND TO ME, IT SEEMS VALID.
Ya see, if you don't share in the orgy of blood and violence, then you don't get to carve from the still twitching and bloody body that is Iraq with the rest of these ghouls. That's basically what it is here.
Ya see, if you don't share in the orgy of blood and violence, then you don't get to carve from the still twitching and bloody body that is Iraq with the rest of these ghouls. That's basically what it is here.
Originally posted by Colonel
And, while it is ok for Haliburton to take contracts from the military, it is a conflict of interest when the former VP who STILL takes money from Haliburton to set up no-bid contracts for them. It's illegal!
Heil Hitler.
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
Originally posted by mooseofterror
Originally posted by junglejake
Because the pentagon decided to liberate an oppressed nation. France was too worried we'd discover their "Made in france" stamp on the WMDs. On the day Bush came up and announced we had gone to war with Iraq, I called a few people and told them this was exactly what we needed to do, but I didn't think we had the balls to do it.
I can't tell you how proud, how honored I am living in a country which stands up for what is right, and doesn't reward those who were wrong because they're worried they might stand against them again.
Way to go USA. Way to go US Military. Way to go Bush. Way to go Bush.
Now it's an oppressed nation, but before it was a nuclear power? That was the initial reason. Where are the WMD you talk about? I don't even see any with "made in Iraq" stickers on them. You would have a better chance to find genetic match of an anthrax strain in Iraq that came from a US research lab.
[Edited on 11-12-2003 by mooseofterror]
how in the blue # is this nation opressed? are you still not in front of your computer spewing the same anti bush BS other people are on here spewing? are you in a concentration camp? have you been thrown into an oven? have you been removed from your home in order to house bush's elite gaurds? has the military come and killed your family because you spoke out against bush? have you been gassed? have you had your family taken from you? what exactly have you lost??? it doesnt seem to be your freedom of speech as you are still here! doesnt look like you lost your dwelling or your posessions. what are you being kept from doing pray tell? what has been done to you that is so horrible that you feel like you are a third world citizen. what has been done to you exactly that makes you spew this accusation of opression???
you dont have a #ing clue what real true opression is and you never will as long as you live here. want real opression? go live under kim jong il's thumb.
none of you really have a clue what opression really is. not even i do but i know the patriot act, while it doesnt sound great sure hasnt done anything to me! i can still do everything i did before its enactment. nothing in my life has changed. i dont feel opressed, i dont feel down trodden. i live in a country where i can do anything i want! i can speak out (and i have) agaisnt the polticians that run this country and i'm not sitting in a cell. THAT would be opression. my family hasnt been killed because i spoke out against them. THAT would be intimidation. i still have all my posessions and my house. taking those things from me would be opression.
you people disgust me. we have it so good here and you dont even realize just how good you people have it.
i have a news flash for you, if their was REAL opression in this country not one of you who live here and speak out against bush would be alive at this point. you're whining just to hear yourselves whine.
you're not happy unless you feel absolutely miserable.
most of us have it better inlife than 90% of the other people on this planet and this is how you show your gratitude for a wonderful life, by whining about living in the freeest country on the planet.
ingrates! thats all you are! goddamn ingrates, you dont deserve to live here with your piss poor attitudes. tell you what Mr. i feel i am being opressed, leave the country and let a person who has been really opressed take your place. do them the favor and do me the favor, let some appreciative people who have only known opression come here and live here. i'm tired of the whining and complaining, i want to be with other people who know when they have the good life! i want to share my country with people who know they have it better than most people could ever dare dream! not you whiners who seem to enjoy playing the role of victim.
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
Originally posted by Colonel
hmm guess you didnt notice you put in a very important key word here. FORMER. as in USE to be VP of halliburton. since he has no job with them...no conflict no matter how much you want to stomp your feet and pound your fists on the table and think of stupid cliches none of it will do you any good.
they can give him as much as they want but he doesnt work for them and hasnt for 3 years! if he still had a job there i would agree there is a conflict but the money he gets was arranged before he left halliburton. it is all 100% legal. of course if you're going to come down on him for getting what one could consider special interest moeny then you'd have to come down on just about every politician. and since you're not coming down on all politicians and you're not coming down on special interest " campaign donations" you're being at the least, once again, inconsistent.
try harder colonel, this is way too easy. it might be the weekend but you're still getting soft old boy.
BTW am i suppose to act like i'm mad and angry over you hailing hitler? do it all you like, seems a little silly but go right ahead!
and whatever you do colonel NEVER tackle the issues, keep making up cliches and catchphrases, you're becoming more of a media/political whore everyday and it shows.
Ya know, its really difficult to talk to someone as nescient as you. I don't even know why I try.
IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND ILLEGAL FOR A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL TO ACCEPT MONEY FROM A PRIVATE FIRM IN EXCHANGE FOR POLITICAL FAVORS, I.E. THE HALIBURTON SWEET-HEART NO BID CONTRACTS!
These are not campaign donations! These are moneis delivered into Cheney's own pocket for his own private use! Either grow up or wake up because one of the two is evident here.
And, if this "Iraqi War" was plannned from years ago (which it was), then I see RICO charges here!
And no one escapes RICO...................
Originally posted by Colonel
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
Originally posted by Colonel
hmm guess you didnt notice you put in a very important key word here. FORMER. as in USE to be VP of halliburton. since he has no job with them...no conflict no matter how much you want to stomp your feet and pound your fists on the table and think of stupid cliches none of it will do you any good.
they can give him as much as they want but he doesnt work for them and hasnt for 3 years! if he still had a job there i would agree there is a conflict but the money he gets was arranged before he left halliburton. it is all 100% legal. of course if you're going to come down on him for getting what one could consider special interest moeny then you'd have to come down on just about every politician. and since you're not coming down on all politicians and you're not coming down on special interest " campaign donations" you're being at the least, once again, inconsistent.
try harder colonel, this is way too easy. it might be the weekend but you're still getting soft old boy.
BTW am i suppose to act like i'm mad and angry over you hailing hitler? do it all you like, seems a little silly but go right ahead!
and whatever you do colonel NEVER tackle the issues, keep making up cliches and catchphrases, you're becoming more of a media/political whore everyday and it shows.
Ya know, its really difficult to talk to someone as nescient as you. I don't even know why I try.
IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND ILLEGAL FOR A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL TO ACCEPT MONEY FROM A PRIVATE FIRM IN EXCHANGE FOR POLITICAL FAVORS, I.E. THE HALIBURTON SWEET-HEART NO BID CONTRACTS!
These are not campaign donations! These are moneis delivered into Cheney's own pocket for his own private use! Either grow up or wake up because one of the two is evident here.
And, if this "Iraqi War" was plannned from years ago (which it was), then I see RICO charges here!
And no one escapes RICO...................
and why havent you goen after him and halliburton for this since you seem rather convinced of this? why havent you gone after them?
simple question, how about a simple answer? no dodging! no side stepping.
Originally posted by PHIN
NOW ON TOPIC..........THE SITUATION NOT SECURE AT THIS TIME. SPIES AND TERRORISTS ARE LOOKING FOR ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO GET IN. THE SAFEST WAY TO HIRE WOULD BE TO HIRE FROM THOSE COUNTRIES WHO HAVE AN INTREST FOR SUCCESS, AND NOT FAILURE. THERE IS AND ECONOMIC ANGLE TO THIS, BUT HEY, THE UNITED STATES IS A CAPITOLISTIC COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT BAD, IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS. ANYWAY, THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO CONTRACT FROM THE COALITION AND TO ME, IT SEEMS VALID.
Originally posted by Russian
ok this is weird...
US wants to lock out the countries (from the contracts)that were against the war...
including Russia...
but they want Russia to forgive Iraq the 8 BILLION dollar loan...
P.S. USA if you want to ask for people to forget a loan...
do NOT give them a reason to NOT forget it...
Originally posted by Colonel
So, don't act as tho the US was being altruistic and humanitarian.
Ya see, if you don't share in the orgy of blood and violence, then you don't get to carve from the still quivering bloody body that is Iraq with the rest of these ghouls. That's basically what it is here.