I Met A Real Bad Guy

Go back and read the OP's posts - misspelled words, less-than-accurate punctuation, very poor grammar.



IF this individual is indeed accurately relaying an event related to his experience as a police or law enforcement officer, I sure hope he doesn't work on the force that is protecting my little town.



My guess is it's an adolescent male looking for some attention.

You know i think it really bothers me that i am supposed to protect and handle most situations but this was one that showed me i dont have total control.I made fun of that lady and she was telling the truth.

A side note to reality hurts:I dont feel any need to prove anything to you i am looking for advice or a person who can shed some light on this for me no more no less.And if reality hurts so bad than this will really hurt real police work is not like it is on cops.For future reference not all shootings make the papers alot of things happen and never see the light of day.

Originally posted by Shawnna
Go back and read the OP's posts - misspelled words, less-than-accurate punctuation, very poor grammar.

IF this individual is indeed accurately relaying an event related to his experience as a police or law enforcement officer, I sure hope he doesn't work on the force that is protecting my little town.

My guess is it's an adolescent male looking for some attention.

wow thats what you wasted you time with my spelling and grammar?lol you provide a great service to ats and im glad your here .maybe ill keep up the poor grammar and you will keep up the GREAT work.lmao

I believe for a bunch of open-minded people such as yourselves, you guys are being rather hurtful. Why the heck are you guys slandering this guy's story and dignity?

wait wait wait. Ok lets not go nuts here. I misspell things all the time. I am 31 years old. so lets not go calling someone fraudulent or a kid just because they misspell things.

People who mess up on something as simple as spelling arn't idiots. Not all people can be perfect at everything. I am good at math but my spelling leaves much to be desired. So I don't write for websters. (you can thank me later)

The point is as long as you get the drift of what the person was trying to come across with isnt that all that matters?

I don't understand why people are attacking this guy. He is simply relaying his experience. If you don't believe it fine. But if you must show your ignorance by degrading the man, then please do it elsewhere.

I don't know what to think either way. Sounds like an interesting story. All the more so, if it were true.

But the only way we know other members here, are by their posts. Credibility is not something that is just given out. But something which must be earned.

Respect though, is deserved by everyone. So give this guy a break here. Don't cry "wolf", unless there is good reason for it.

For my part I am giving it the benefit of a doubt, until I have evidence that tells me otherwise.

2 cents

[edit on 1/1/2007 by Mechanic 32]

I have not posted on this forum for awhile so if I am permitted to do this:
Go here perhaps, even call if you want:

www.coasttocoastam.com...

Afterall, they may actually know someone who might be interested, but without the address I doubt if anything will be done, but it probably will be listened to either on the air, or even perhaps in an e-mail but they receive perhaps thousands of e-mails a day probably.

Otherwise, I have not seen a ghost, other people talk about higher frequency beings, but I guess if you saw it, and it manifested I guess those on the show will listen to it, because according to some people on the show they actually make recordings of ghosts according to their guests on sometimes, and actually play those recordings over the Air.

I do not know, never seen a ghost, or a shadow person, or a higher frequency being, perhaps even an UFO being ever. I doubt if I will, and I doubt if I would know what to do, but I am not in that field of work that you are in and trained to respond first that way!

I doubt if you can do anything else except look it all up on the Internet, but since I do not concern myself with ghosts, there probably are other people who do.

Boaz,
I hope you will get your job back, can you say how long it might be until you will know?
Second, your weapon is a Glock 40 with a 180 grain round if I remember what you said right. Dry wall in pretty brittle, would the round not go through the dry wall?

Boaz

Was the entity blurry or was his features clearly visible ?

Originally posted by boaz1234
The other officer seen it and we both agreed to go with the other story .I can see my career going in the toilet if i wrote it like it happened.the woman is well.....she has a lot of problems and has at one time told people in town the mayor was from an alien ship get my point.

Hey, about the mayor, these days you just never really know.

But seriously,

Sweet berries ready for two,
Ghosts are no different than you.

Ghost are now waiting for you,
Are you dreaming?
Dreaming goodnight,
Dreaming allright?

That's from a song, "Question" by System of A Down

Don't count something out just because there's no 100% positive evidence.

Think about it this way, what if we are really ghosts to them? It might have been his house too.

Well that is indeed very bizarre. You should look up the history of the house, or ask the woman for any other info about the house. Whatever happened it was obviously supernatural...

As for explaining it to the department...I, personally, would probably tell them exactly what happened. But thats just me, I'm usually honest.

Do yourself a favor and don't listen to anyone here. Go talk to your department counsel about your best plan of attack. Certainly don't say you panicked and unloaded 3 rounds at nobody unless you like bagging groceries. There has been some real bad advice given here. Talk to counsel and don't ask or take advice from people who more than likely have no idea what they are talking about. When i was in college majoring in criminal justice this topic was covered in criminal law 101 and is also covered in the academy as well....

Originally posted by All Seeing Guy
I believe for a bunch of open-minded people such as yourselves, you guys are being rather hurtful. Why the heck are you guys slandering this guy's story and dignity?

Could be because of responses like this one....

Originally posted by boaz1234

wow thats what you wasted you time with my spelling and grammar?lol you provide a great service to ats and im glad your here .maybe ill keep up the poor grammar and you will keep up the GREAT work.lmao

Supposedly this person is here looking for advice, but then responds to something with this. After that i am no longer taking this person seriously, that was immature, especially for someone who "works in law enforcement". Whether or not this person is an officer, they are immature, which will lean people toward thinking they are some adolescent looking for attention.

If you want us to take you seriously boaz, then i would suggest that you stop making childish remarks.

Originally posted by boaz1234
You know i think it really bothers me that i am supposed to protect and handle most situations but this was one that showed me i dont have total control.I made fun of that lady and she was telling the truth.

A side note to reality hurts:I dont feel any need to prove anything to you i am looking for advice or a person who can shed some light on this for me no more no less.And if reality hurts so bad than this will really hurt real police work is not like it is on cops.For future reference not all shootings make the papers alot of things happen and never see the light of day.

You "serve" your community. You are employed by the municipality or township. Everything you do is accounted for. If you are drawing and firing your weapon, the community will know, or you are not doing your job.

That is the "reality" of the situation, and I'm sorry if it "hurts". This is easily verifiable by you, and I darn well don't want to know anything about you personally. My suggestion is that you get with a moderator and let him independently verify your story, until then, its bunk.

Originally posted by boaz1234
The other officer seen it and we both agreed to go with the other story .I can see my career going in the toilet if i wrote it like it happened.the woman is well.....she has a lot of problems and has at one time told people in town the mayor was from an alien ship get my point.

It will probably be written off as accidental discharge or something, if you have no previous complaints on your record.

But if I were you, I'd do a little background check on the mayor: Some off-hours moonlighting, a little digging around. That might just leave you with a real case of the jitters and an incidence or two that can't be so easily discarded.

Hmmmmmnnnn

Never underestimate the power of a little old lady's mind.

Originally posted by Reality Hurts

Originally posted by boaz1234
You know i think it really bothers me that i am supposed to protect and handle most situations but this was one that showed me i dont have total control.I made fun of that lady and she was telling the truth.

A side note to reality hurts:I dont feel any need to prove anything to you i am looking for advice or a person who can shed some light on this for me no more no less.And if reality hurts so bad than this will really hurt real police work is not like it is on cops.For future reference not all shootings make the papers alot of things happen and never see the light of day.

You "serve" your community. You are employed by the municipality or township. Everything you do is accounted for. If you are drawing and firing your weapon, the community will know, or you are not doing your job.

That is the "reality" of the situation, and I'm sorry if it "hurts". This is easily verifiable by you, and I darn well don't want to know anything about you personally. My suggestion is that you get with a moderator and let him independently verify your story, until then, its bunk.

I agree with the posters here that if you truly are an officer and were involved in an onduty shooting event it would be very easy to verify. Officer involved shootings (OIS) are still thanfkfully rare, even in the larger departments. For example LAPD averages 60 to 70 officer involved shootings every year ... for a force of approx 9,000 officers that's not a heck of a lot of OIS's.

Yes if you're in a 500,000 plus population area your story may not be the breaking news on the evening TV. But it's still being investigated and documented and the final report is available to any member of the public who requests it.

The only concern I can see for secrecy is that your superiors and IA division may have some concerns if they read what you have posted here and it differs from the story you have provided them.

But you should understand why people are having issues with a story that should be extremely easy to verify.

After well over 20 years, I have never met a cop that could spell anyway... So that has little to do with the validity of any post on here...

Also what they teach in college and what is applicable in the "real world" are often two completely different things...

Semper

I think I feel as if im in a court room if you dont believe me fine ignore the thread.What is it about Law Enforcement that send some into a anti-mode?I was childish in my responce but try and see this from my point of view.I am a Deputy in a semi large area and things happen ALL the time and they are swept under the rug this will happen as well in this case.For some reason i have seen Hydra-Shoks go through solid wood doors and also some have been stopped by 3/4 plywood go figure.The thing i saw was a man about 30-40 and wearing out of date clothes he or it was not see through nor making any ghostly noise, to me at the time hes a perp. if you that feel the need to prove this i leave you with this my word is my bond and if that aint enough well....you know what to do.

Boaz -------- did you read my response to your original post?

I tried to provide some possible explanations, based on personal experience and the publicised experiences of others.

I suggested your experience would change you and you've confirmed it has.

Forums attract a percentage of half-smarts. Most of them are kids or those with the mentality of kids. Don't pay them heed. They simply want attention -- want to appear 'kewl' -- want to get a rise out of anyone they can. Move past them. If they'd had one tenth of your experience, they might actually think before they opened their mouths. SO --- let's hope they DO experience something similar to you, because that will keep them quiet for years ! LOL.

When people stoop to criticising spelling and grammar, you know they're flapping their lips and have absolutely NOTHING to contribute, one way or the other.

*IF* you feel inclined, you could drop around for a chat with the old lady some time in the future.

On the other hand, you may not feel inclined and may choose instead to simply move on. Let your instinct guide you.

Ghosts do exist. Those who've had experience of them number in the millions. Those who have NOT experienced a ghost are often jealous of those who have, believe it or not, and so attempt to disrupt genuine discussion of the subject.

Don't take personally anything said to you by anonymous posters here or on other forums. A lot of them are people you wouldn't sit next to on a bus.

As I said in my earlier post, what you experienced may not have been a ghost. Instead, it might have been a projection caused/created (intentionally or not) by a living person several hundred miles away (or they could have been in the next street). Projections are about as common as ghosts.

For example, a man may have lived in that house as a child, or may have visited it -- or might just have seen it from the street and dreamed of living in it or even of robbing it. The same man may have been dreaming or day-dreaming of being in that house. Sometimes, with some people, daydreams/dreams etc. or deliberate projections result in a life-like image of the person appearing elsewhere. There's copious reference to it in books and online. Inigo Swan, for example, was able to project an image of himself to a location considerable distance from his physical body. He did so on numerous occasions under strict laboratory/research conditions, as have many others, both intentionally and otherwise.

So, it may have been a ghost you saw, or it may have been a projection and doubtless there are other explanations as well.

As for ghosts being sighted by 'reliable-trustworthy-responsible' citizens such as police, pilots, nurses, etc. ... well, again, there's copious reference to this occurring, such as when several flight attendants, pilots, etc. witnessed the appearance of a long-dead pilot within a commercial plane, as in The Ghost of Flight 401 (I think). So you're in good company.

But, in addition to all the other adjustments you're required to make once you've witnessed a ghost, you're also compelled to accept that your testimony re: your experience will sometimes be attacked, criticised and discredited (as well as your character) by the know-nothings posing as 'sceptics' within forums such as this. It comes with the territory and you have to learn to brush them aside as you would flies at a picnic :-)