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Originally posted by Muaddib
The last straw was drawn when SE Asian nations wanted to sue the United States for the tsunami of 2004...
Originally posted by jsobecky
No one is asking anybody to applaud the execution. Nobody is being forced to watch the Towers fall (you must ask yourself why it bothers you more that it is being shown than it does that they fell).
Originally posted by khunmoon
Muaddib, it is you who make claims, that my informations should be nothing as such.
Originally posted by khunmoon
For my last post all the info on the Bush Ancestors is from Wiki, you can easily check yourself. All I do is, in my judgement and million of others, to say executing Saddam in the middle of a trial is unpresidented and against ALL rules of justice.
Originally posted by Muaddib
His second trial on August 2006, and in that trial he was tried, with 6 co-defendants, on the genocide of Anfal military campaign against the Kurds of Northern Iraq..... so, that claim of yours that he was not on trial for those crimes against the Kurds is not true....
Originally posted by smallpeeps
Anyway, after seeing the full video, I have this nagging feeling that the excutioners in the hoods may have also applied some drills to other Sunni bodies. It just seemed like they were the ruffians whereas Saddam looked dignified. He looked way too composed and I believe they have now made him into more than if they'd just let him die in jail. They granted him a martyr's death complete with people insulting him as he died. This whole event is designed to increase the conflict in Iraq.
Mohammed Natiq, a 24-year-old college student, said "the path of Arab nationalism must inevitably be paved with blood.
Officials in Tikrit said the body was transferred by American helicopter to the U.S. military base at Tikrit from Baghdad, where Saddam dropped through the gallows floor and died shortly before dawn on Saturday.
Originally posted by khunmoon
Thanks for joining in Ox. I feel the same way as you do. Sympathy for a tyrant, that definately doesn't deserve any. But the whole way it was conducted and those pictures of a fearless dignified man with his head high going into his death. The disposal of a useful head that became too independent.
It's the ultimative defeat for America ...
August 22, 2006 · Saddam Hussein and others accused in the Anfal trial begin their defense against charges that they were responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Kurds. They say the Anfal mission targeted Kurdish militias and Iranian forces who were working hand in hand in Kurdistan during the Iran/Iraq war. The first prosecution witness took the stand, where he described how his village was bombed with poison gas.
10. What was Human Rights Watch’s role in documenting the Anfal?
In 1992, after the Gulf War, Human Rights Watch sent a team of researchers to northern Iraq. For several months the team conducted extensive investigations. Its members interviewed some 350 Anfal survivors and witnesses and conducted soil analysis in areas where chemical weapons had been used. For purposes of safe keeping and analysis, Human Rights Watch was given 18 metric tons of Iraqi security documents that had been seized by Kurdish militias when government security forces abandoned the region. On the basis of the field research and analysis of documents, Human Rights Watch concluded that the Anfal constituted genocide. In 1994-95, Human Rights Watch attempted to persuade several human rights-minded governments to bring a case against the government of Iraq under the provisions of the Genocide Convention at the International Court of Justice. Unfortunately, nothing came of this initiative.
Originally posted by khunmoon
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The descent started with the Vietnam war, because the cause became ideological and questionable. But the American people still had its guts and common sense intact, safe and sound.
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Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by khunmoon
Thanks for joining in Ox. I feel the same way as you do. Sympathy for a tyrant, that definately doesn't deserve any. But the whole way it was conducted and those pictures of a fearless dignified man with his head high going into his death. The disposal of a useful head that became too independent.
It's the ultimative defeat for America ...
Another of your claims khumoon...is this evidence also "hidden by the elite , or destroyed" but somehow you among a few know everything that was supposedly in those "secret documents"?....
What does Human Rights Watch see as the main obstacles to a fair trial?
Human Rights Watch's observed the Dujail trial and saw a number of serious shortcomings in how the Iraqi High Tribunal functioned.
These include: 1) An almost complete lack of familiarity with international criminal law on the part of all Iraqi lawyers and judges involved in the trial; 2) Chaotic and inadequate administration which has given rise to major problems in performing basic administrative tasks necessary for a trial of this magnitude to run fairly; and 3) Such extensive use of anonymous witnesses that the defendants did not get right to contest the evidence against them.
These shortcomings have been compounded by the sharp deterioration of the security environment in Iraq which has resulted in the murder of three defense lawyers, the reluctance of numerous witnesses to come forward, and serious limitations on the defense's capacity to investigate and test evidence gathered by the prosecution.
For justice to be done, this important trial must be conducted fairly. Based on extensive observation of the IHT's conduct of its first trial, Human Rights Watch believes that it is presently incapable of fairly and effectively trying genocide in accordance with international standards and current international criminal law.
Here are some excerpts from the non-existant Anfal trial...
I am still amazed that some people still find the "hippes" as if they were some form of enlightened beings"...all they did was getting drugged all the time hence the reason they couldn't understand what was going on most of the time....
Yeah, that would make the U.S. great again, having most people getting drugged all the time and not caring about reality....
Originally posted by khunmoon
To know what you're talking about and as requested in previous posts, you got to use the quote box in relevans to what you wanna blame, mock me about, whatever, at least in relevans to what you comment. In the above, what is the connection between your comment and what you quote? I don't see any of the two phrases put in quotationmarks by you anywhere in the quote!
Originally posted by khunmoon
Well, I'm not much into the disciplin of throwing around manure, neither horse nor bull, and as you obviously don't want to stay on topic, but now tries to derail it into a discussion of capitalism versus communism, I suggest we stop now. What has the following to do with Saddam?
The descent started with the Vietnam war, because the cause became ideological and questionable. But the American people still had its guts and common sense intact, safe and sound.