Best Tank!

Originally posted by Brodee
stupid commie #s!

nice photoshop pics guys....I would be ashamed to post those supposed pics of an M1 blown to pieces...what propaganda you kids have.

Get some manners,

Get some class,

Get the facts!

M1s were destroyed in the war..

And in attacks after the 'main combat' ended..

Originally posted by FULCRUM

Get some manners,

Get some class,

And in attacks after the 'main combat' ended..

[Edited on 12/7/2003 by Maverick]

Originally posted by Maverick

Originally posted by FULCRUM

Get some manners,

Get some class,

And in attacks after the 'main combat' ended..

[Edited on 12/7/2003 by Maverick]

Whats up with this bs?

Maveric..

Because of people like you this fine topic will most likely soon be locked..

And then we can discuss these matters..

Does that make you happy?

The best tank is the FERMENTING TANK down at the local brewery.

WRATH OF THE RISING SUN

This topic is about Tanks!!

Let's keep away from the personal insults please.

T-34 Medium Tank
The T-34 was a technologically innovative design which addressed the short-comings of the earlier BT series of wheel/track tank. The T-34 was developed during the 1936-37 period, the prototype was completed in early 1939, and in September 1940 T-34 was put into series production mounting a 76mm gun. The Model 1940, the first T-34 production variant, t was armed with the L-11 76.2 mm gun, which was considerably shorter than the subsequent F-34 76.2 mm main gun of the 1941 and later models. The mantlet was also round in contrast to the more square mantlets of later models. The tank's main advantage was its simple design which made it easy to mass produce and repair. The T-34 was also small and comparibaly light, while the tank's water-cooled diesel engine minimized the danger of fire and increased the tank's the radius of action. The design overcame the technological superiority of German forces during the Great Patriotic War. Built in Ukraine in the Kharkov Steam-Engine Factory (KhPZ), the German general von Runstedt called the T-34 the "best tank in the world" and von Kleist said it was the "finest in the world." The T-34 had a more powerful cannon than German tanks, a higher top speed (32 MPH versus 25 MPH), and superior sloped armor and superior welded construction. However, the German Tiger and Panther tanks outranged the T34's original 76mm gun, and subsequently a 85mm gun was mounted on a T-34 tank. The T-34/85 was a modification of the T-34 equipped with a more powerful armor and cannon. T-34/85 had a flatter turret which gave this already inovative tank design the look that all tanks adopted after the wars end. Although not equal to the German Panther and Tiger tanks, the huge numbers of T-34s more than compensated for their technological shortcomings.

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Specifications

Crew: 5

Armament: 85mm gun main gun
7.62mm DTM bow MG
7.62mm DTM coaxial MG

Maximum road speed: 55 km/h

Maximum road range: 300 km

Engine: V-2-34 V-12 diesel developing 500hp

also please dont bash the US or Russia on this forum cause this NOT a Russian vs. USA Tech debate thread!

Thank you


[Edited on 7-12-2003 by Russian]

this is the tank that entered service to compete with the T-34.

Armaments Minister Albert Speer began thinking about an even more powerful tank than the Tiger and Panther. In January 1943, a specification was issued to Porsche and Henschel for a new heavy tank carrying an 88mm high-velocity gun. The two prototypes, VK.4502 (P) and VK.4503(H) were available by October. Porsche were so confident in their turret design that they put it in production. However, Henschel won the competition again and entered production at the end of December. The first 50 vehicles had the Porsche turret to avoid waste.
The PzKpfw VI Ausf B, also called Tiger II or K�nigstiger (King or Royal Tiger) was the most formidable tank in service until the introduction of the Soviet JS-3 just before the war's end. It was, however, miserably underpowered because it used the same Maybach HL 230 P45 engine as that in the Tiger I, which was 11 tons lighter! The power-to-weight ration was extremely poor. Although a maximum road speed of 41.5km/h was achieved during trials, it was almost certain that the vehicle would break down if it tried to sustain this. However, by the time the Tiger II entered combat in February 1944 Germany was defending, and heavy armor and a powerful gun were much more important than mobility.
The Tiger II had extremely thick armor that were also well-sloped, and a long-barrelled high-velocity 88mm KwK 43 L/71. It was the most powerful German tank of the war, and its gun enabled it to engage Allied tanks at long ranges. However, its poor maneuverability made it susceptible to attacks in the flanks or rear. In addition, the Tiger II was just as vulnerable to aerial attacks by fighter-bombers.
Principal manufacturer(s): Henschel


Production date(s): 1944-45
Armament: 1 x 88mm KwK 43 L/71; 2 x 7.92mm MG
Crew: 5
Weight in action: 68 tons
Overall length: 7.26m
Height: 3.09m
Width: 3.625m
Track width: 60 or 80cm (narrow one for rail transport)
Ground clearance: 48.5cm
Maximum road speed: 40km/h
Range (roads): 120km
Range (cross-country): 80km
Engine type: Maybach HL230 P 45 V-12 petrol
Engine power: 700 bhp at 3,000 rpm
Engine capacity: 23,880 cc
Fuel capacity: 860 liters
Armor thickness: turret 80-180mm; hull 80-150mm

These two tanks where very good in battle.

With the Tiger having a better armour and gun

T-34 faster speed and better mobilaty.

But the Germans couldn't build alot of Tigers cause it was close to the end of the war and they were lower on metals.