Loooks like it's Amensty for Illegals....

Creedo,I can certainly agree with your post about the indians. When someone wants to talk about victims of racism...The Native Americans are the best example of it that I can think of. I mean, real victims of racism..

From the link above

Census 2000 results indicate that 700,000 to 800,000 illegal aliens settle in the U.S. each year, with an estimated 8-11 million illegal aliens currently living in the United States.


According to INS estimates released in October, 2000, the amnesties granted in 1986 as a result of the Immigration Reform and Control Act significantly contributed to an increase in illegal immigration as the relatives of newly legalized illegal immigrants came illegally to the United States to join their family members. In the decade following the 1986 amnesty, illegal immigration increased dramatically.

After all, if you're going to open the door for Mexico first, then everyone else, why not be sure to advertise it, if the opliticos even mention this I'll make sure it gets posted in China and the Former Soviet States, then we'll have a flood of illegals that will crush the economy.

There is absolutly nothing we as americans can do on the issue right now. It has gone to far under the radar. Like some of you said, americans are too busy to protest, and their jobs won't allow time off for it. Plus most americans are scared of the issue, that if they stand out, they will be labeled a racist by their peers. It won't effect the minoritys in america like it will effect the white people that stand out. Thats just the way our society has become, to effing PC.
It has been tried in the past with very little turnout, or went un-noticed.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well,creedo, it's not so much that Mexicans are dirty. I don't believe that,and if you do come across dirty ones it's because of the pack mentality that they seem to have. As a matter of fact, I have seen a couple of my hispanic girlfriend's homes that were immaculate.

However, something you must consider is that many hispanics do not have the income to live in real nice,glitzy areas.. If they do move into an area and it becomes "ran down" it's generally not always do to just the presence of hispanics..There is often outside influences that beebop into the neighborhood that contributes to the trashing of the area..

Oh yea I agree that Mexican people are not generally dirty folks. However they dont seems to care about not littering the neighborhood. I also forgot to mention that my damn trashcan was stolen this week as well... can you believe this crap???

But even though they are not exactly wallowing in filth on the inside of their homes, my neighborhood is starting to resemble a dump and I am not likeing it one bit!

And as far as not having the income to do certain home improvements the right way... you can bet it will be done with plywood, tape and lots of plaster and neon lime green and orange paint.

Creedo,well,....

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Creedo,well,....

Ohhhh dont make me go and take pics tonite!!!! Cause i'll do it!! I'm warning ya!!

I believe you. I just think it's hilarious that you would actually mention it.

I'm all for it! I don't believe in borders, the entire world should be one open place where people are free to roam around at will. With one world government this will be possible and hopefully we will see that happen within our lifetime.

Creedo - the only thing I can think of for you to do is put your home up for sale NOW before you lose all property value. You said it is just starting to look like a dump? Wait until a couple more years go by, then you'll see the REAL dump all around your home.

Once neighborhoods become known as "bad" areas, it is next to impossible to get a reasonable price (in relation to what you might have paid).

I hope this helps you, as seriously, you have NO WAY of changing the infux of people. There is no way you can speak out and not come off as racist, that's a fact. It sounds racist, you know what I mean? So, since we do live in a free country, you can move to your heart's content.

May I suggest a rural area, perhaps, I don't know, Montana, Idaho, the far desert areas in New Mexico. If you buy a tract of land, maybe what, 10 or so acres? you can easily get yourself into your own little island, so to speak, and not have anyone there at all.


Either move or get used to it, I guess. ?

Yea... and your right. Over the past 38 years of my life I have moved from one town to another and seen well over half of them go from middle class bedroom communities to filthy minority crime infested hovels.

Fountain Valley
La Palma
Corona
Fullerton
Antioch
Pittsburg
Stockton

All these cities are in California and were nice places to live not much more than 15 years ago..

Originally posted by DraconianKing
I'm all for it! I don't believe in borders, the entire world should be one open place where people are free to roam around at will. With one world government this will be possible and hopefully we will see that happen within our lifetime.

Really? So, you're in favor of an authoritarian one world government,eh? Let's all just join freakin hands and sing cumbaya....

you guys seem truly scared and worried about illegal immigration and most of those fears seem to revolve around "trash" being dumped in your front yard and your neighborhood looking like a "dump".

some of you guys also seem to be holding back your true beliefs and views on the issue over the fear of being lableled as a racist. i would love to hear what you guys have to say without that fear looming in your head.

amnesty for illegals has been done several times in the past and the results of your right wing propoganda of a doomsday scenario has not and does not seem to be coming true. some people would argue that the "invasion" (whatever the hell that means) of illegal immigrants would cause serious economic consequences. yet we have 15 to 17 million known illegal immigrants with numbers that i;m sure are rising and the economy seems good to great depending on who you ask.

Probably shouldn't have said that.... I removed it...

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here where i live,and at the place i work,i have seen mostly illegal mexicans come in here,work,quit,leave for a week,and come back under a new name.now how can anybody not catch that?

Originally posted by Creedo

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well,creedo, it's not so much that Mexicans are dirty. I don't believe that,and if you do come across dirty ones it's because of the pack mentality that they seem to have. As a matter of fact, I have seen a couple of my hispanic girlfriend's homes that were immaculate.

However, something you must consider is that many hispanics do not have the income to live in real nice,glitzy areas.. If they do move into an area and it becomes "ran down" it's generally not always do to just the presence of hispanics..There is often outside influences that beebop into the neighborhood that contributes to the trashing of the area..

Oh yea I agree that Mexican people are not generally dirty folks. However they dont seems to care about not littering the neighborhood. I also forgot to mention that my damn trashcan was stolen this week as well... can you believe this crap???

But even though they are not exactly wallowing in filth on the inside of their homes, my neighborhood is starting to resemble a dump and I am not likeing it one bit!

And as far as not having the income to do certain home improvements the right way... you can bet it will be done with plywood, tape and lots of plaster and neon lime green and orange paint.

You mention that you live in a neighborhood with a high level of "mexicans" ... then you continue to say that they litter your yard, steal your mail and steal items out of your yard. Well if the majority of the residents in your neighborhood are any one nationality or race then the majority of crime being committed in said neighborhood would probably be by that race.

I, also living in California, went to a public high school that was 93% minority (hispanic of course) ... so if something had happened while I was there chances are it would have involved that same "minority". Does that mean that hispanics are disproprtionately responsible for crimes?

What I'm trying to say is if you live in a Hispanic neighborhood then chances are the Hispanics commit the crimes. If you live in a white neighborhood then chances are the whites commit the crimes.

See the thing is.... when I lived in predominantly white middle class neighborhoods... there was rarely any crime... if ever. And I'm sorry if this sounds insensitive and racist but white middle class neighborhoods seem to have a high level of respect for their neighborhood community. In all of the communities that slowly became predominantly Mexican immigrant neighborhoods THIS SIMPLY IS NOT THE CASE. Why this is remains a complete mystery to me.

Cars on blocks freekin' EVERYWHERE!
Trash heaped up at the curb for weeks cause the city wont take it.
Litter
Oil from cars dumped in road, gutter, storm drains.
Theft... lots of theft. Cars, home invasion, identity... you name it.
Dead yards
Old tires in my yard... I forgot to mention this in an earlier post.
I've even found used condoms in the street out front of my house.
Loud screaming and crying children left unattended in the front yards.
Gang grafitti all over the place.


I live on a corner, I have white folks across the street and kittycorner from me. The guy across from me is an older man and a pastor of a local church... lived in this neighborhood most of his life... seen it go in the toilet within the last 20 years. Guess what... we have the nicest homes on the block hands down.

I really wish the Mexican immigrants in this area would take some pride in their communities..... they have an amazing culture and have alot to offer. But I wont defend this kind of blatant disregard for the American standard of living.

Illegal Alien Invaders destroying national forests.
Arizona inmates clean up their filth. Americans doing the jobs they won't. Democrats can't wait to make them citizens. 12 to 20 million made citizens,I wonder how much this will cost the American tax payers ?

Link:www.azcentral.com...://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1201dumping-ON.html.

[edit on 4-12-2006 by rdang]

[edit on 4-12-2006 by rdang]

And yes I can see how such a post as the last one I did comes off totally racist. But it isn't. It is simply my observations from being right smack in the middle of it all. Community and family...

It boils down to what you value and how you respect others. My feeling is this is not something that exists south of the border in the way it does here. When perfectly good previously predominantly white neighborhoods turn in to ghettos... the proof is right there that Mexican immigration is a serious problem for this country.

rdang, you know,everyone wants to try and make this a race issue. It's not a race issue. It's a money issue. Now, like I said, I'd be more than willing to allow Mexico join the union. They can turn there pesos in for American dollars and start using our currency and go from there... However, we all know that isn't going to happen. We are going to continue to be bombarded by illegal immigrants and they will continue to take advantage of our good nature.

I will say this, if we are going to sure up the Mexican border,then we darn well sure had better secure the Canadian as well. Another thing that is an oxymoron to me is the fact that we are supposed to be fighting a "war on terrorism," yet, both the Canadian and Mexican borders are wide freakin open!! It just doesn't make sense.

[edit on 4-12-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]

Sad state for legal citizens. Dems want the illegals because they see more underclass victims they can bribe with government hand-outs for votes.
Repubs wouldn't do anything because they were scared of their wealthy business owner contingency which currently gets cheap labor.

Formula to destroy a good economy:
1 part legalized illegal aliens
1 part artificially high "minimum wage"

mix with confiscatory tax rates and you get one sh*t-sandwich of an economy.

All the sudden all those aliens working under the table will start costing businesses huge amounts when they are legal and getting an artificially high min wage. So they either don't hire them, then they go on welfare, or raise prices.

Welcome to the world of the future, courtesy of millionaire elitist democrats and spineless republicans.