Its gonna kick off in the UK first! *Muslim troubles that is!*

Dark I agree with you I dont want any particular group telling me what I can and cannot do but do you know all Muslim's, do they all want Sharia law, the BNP would like to see all ethnic people of the UK removed, well thats fine until they find out you have such a background and send you to Iraq/Iran etc. Try to keep a grip on reality, were talking about minority views here blown up by the press, and Muslims do not have a seperate Parliament in the UK.

www.muslimparliament.org.uk...

gee i guess these folks need to re touch their web site...'cause after all you said theres no such thing.......


seems like these enlightend folks think there is...so which is it..

www.muslimparliament.org.uk...

heres what they do......

www.muslimparliament.org.uk...

so all who say there is no such thing can keep it to themselves thank you...

Oh and if you need contact details here they are..

www.muslimparliament.org.uk...

and to answer magic,
I don't want to see them removed, not at all - I do how ever want a country where we all abide by the same rules and laws, we all have to account for ourselves and not hide behind a wall of seperatism and religiouse intolerance...

and no, I would not and could not tolerate sharia law - i have seen an execution up close thank you, I have no plans to see one here in the united Kingdom.

Its time we became a cohesive country again, joined by a bit of pride, not seperate groups squabbling over religion and its rules... practise what you want, be who you want, just let others have the same rights and desires. jews, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians..we all live here - lets keep religion for the place of worship and not within our laws and statutes.

here read this...no muslim parliment indeed......

www.muslimedia.com...

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Once again I agree with you , with regards to the Muslim Parliament they do not rule the UK do they, they do not make the law do they. Any group can form its own rules and agenda but that is a long way off from running a goverment is it not.
Is it the goverments fault for these issue's or our own for not speaking out.
If we all feel so strongly about these issues why do we not press the goverment to outlaw any radical idea's I'm very much for when in Rome do as the Romans.
Have you ever fought that such an issue has been allowed to happen because the new agenda is a holy war and the goverments of the UK/USA want us all hating Muslims, it would not be the first time would it.

Magic, i agree with you.

I want my children to grow in a safe tolerant world, free to live and be who they want and what they want - That could not happen if islam was to rule the UK. Girls are treated as slaves and second class citizens world wide under islamic rule.... I cannot tolerate the fact that a whole group can be so badly treated and the world just stand by... But, if thats how they rule and run their country, well so be it.

When in Rome do as the Romans do - never a truer word written through time - pity a large section of the islamic population don't seem to agree isn't it?

they seem to live by Do as we say or we riot and threaten to chop off heads.... not a great start to improving peoples views of you and yours is it??

i want a free country, with one rule system, one parliment and a cohesive country. Not a warn torn islam / christian divide - BUT, if it comes to war, well i will join it on the side of christianity and thats for certain. i pray it never comes to that, but if it does, well we will have to take a side won't we?

What even makes you so sure that Muslims did this? There is no proof this was done by Muslims.

I'm shocked and saddened by that article, however, one line stood out...

..On Wednesday a Muslim-run dairy was firebombed..

..and who was responsible for that atrocity? muslims bombing their own businesses, or Sun-reading BNP extremists? Seems like complete anti-muslim bias to me that there are no reported details of that event

Already started world wide,
We had issues here in Australia with "local" white Australians vs "Lebanese" muslims earlier this year that could have escolated into a true blood bath if both sides hadn't decided to reconcile.
en.wikipedia.org...

I don't even feel like reply to this topic because its just full of hate, propaganda and dillusion. Mcphisto I see you have BNP in your signature, that party is nothing short of being a mix between Hitler and the KKK, to even come on here and post a completly utterly biased view of muslims makes me mad. Go get educated on the world and stop preaching hate and making tensions 10x as worse. BNP are a joke in the UK and you are part of that joke, who ever takes this party and there views seriously need to go back in time. Im suprised you even post on a open forum such as this, as your views seem to be stuck back in the stone ages.

I wish people start treating people as Individuals, race, colour, religion shouldn't even come into question. If there a terrorist there a terrorist nothing more nothing less. People didn't go round calling the IRA, catholic terrorists did they?

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from thesun.co.uk
MUSLIM yobs who wrecked a house to stop four brave soldiers moving in after returning from Afghanistan sparked outrage last night.

The house in a village near riot-torn Windsor had BRICKS thrown through windows and was DAUBED with messages of hate.

That's bad ass, soldiers return to their home country to find that they're not even welcome!? Loyal British soldiers should be the most welcome people in this country, surely more welcome than any immigrants!

I bet that the people who vandalised the house wouldn't be prepared to fight for their country of residence, and with disrespect like that I don't think that they should be allowed here.

The thing is, if the culprits are caught, nothing will happen, they might get a slap on the wrist but that's it. Especially if they are 'muslim' because it would be seen as 'racist' to punish them, as usual.

In my eyes this is an attack (psychological though it may be) on British soldiers on their home turf! It shouldn't be tolerated!

The thing is, if the culprits are caught, nothing will happen, they might get a slap on the wrist but that's it. Especially if they are 'muslim' because it would be seen as 'racist' to punish them, as usual.

That is so wrong, alot of the police have been proven to be racist in the past that they will just randomly arrest and blame muslims and blacks. The law is carried out on anyone who isn't in power or has no money no matter what race they are. The only people who seem to be above the law is the goverment, since when should someone who takes there country into a illegal war with the result of 100,000+ deaths remain unpunished? ask your self that!

I don't agree with what those people did, they should be punished.

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Originally posted by estar

The thing is, if the culprits are caught, nothing will happen, they might get a slap on the wrist but that's it. Especially if they are 'muslim' because it would be seen as 'racist' to punish them, as usual.

alot of the police have been proven to be racist in the past that they will just randomly arrest and blame muslims and blacks.

Yeah but that's normally 'behind closed doors' (or at least until they get caught doing it) Because this occurance has already been publicised it would make matters worse to give muslim culprits a harsh punishment. By harsh punishment I mean punishment for attacking (IMO) the soldiers, not just the vandalism costs.

The only people who seem to be above the law is the goverment, since when should someone who takes there country into a illegal war with the result of 100,000+ deaths remain unpunished? ask your self that!

I don't agree with what those people did, they should be punished.

But who's to say that the war is illegal? us? No, that's for the government to decide, and we can't really do much about it now. How would you go about punishing the government if they are the punishers and who exactly would you punish?

Originally posted by Mcphisto
peaceful muslims

McP

ROFLMAO

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yeah typical isn't it??

Pakistani earth quake appeal any one?? The UK sent the Royal marines and other soldiers to help out, build homes, help with water supplies the lot... all the pakistanis out shaking tins for money to aid them... and the UK gave freely and willingly, even to the extent that it shamed the goverment into giving more money and aid...

never heard a peep of thanks from them though did the soldiers? nor any one else... there good enough to help their kind in pakistan, but not good enough to support elsewhere??

guess the soldiers will next be told not to wear uniform in windsor or slough so not to upset the natives....

I find it amazing that this is being discussed. It's frightenengly like what lead to nazi Germany. You would think that most would learn from history? Well,I suppose propoganda is still as effective now and yes, it makes me sick too.

How about instead of fostering hate and resentment towards a group who is defamed and slandered unjustly on a daily basis, you fight up against that hate. You do not do it by suspecting every Muslim or arab, or suspect illegal immigrant. You fight hate by starting your day with a smile. You live your day by being courteous to ALL individuals you coem across. Thats right including arabs, immigrants, or Muslims. Spreading your hope and kindness will do ALOT more to affect your people positively then going about your day and giving those you stereotype the evil eye or commenting spiteful remarks.

Even if you are utterly repulsed, resent, or just hate a particular people, meet them with a smile and courtesy everyday. You will find yourself realzing how rediculous you used to act if you can live like that on a daily basis. I personally believe this attitude has saved my life, and I have no qualms with anyone.

If you, and everyone you know, can wake up and live your day that way, there will not be any civil riots. there will be no violence. There will be a regular day.

When you see another news broadcast implying Muslim this or immigrant that, brush it off. Brush it off and do not let it shape who you are. DO not let media shape the person you are. Good mroals, and courtesy to all regardless of their origins will do more to bring happiness to your life then resentment and hate will ever do.

Mcphisto, I would pray that you may have the will-power to live your life with courtesy and smiles to all you encounter, regardless of their ideological beliefs. The people you see on TV are not the same people you may work with, brush by on the tube, in the street, at the grocer, or those who deliver goods to your home.

Fantastic post DYepes, i just wish everyone thought like you!

When in Rome do as the Romans...

Meaning Mexicans in the US...adopt American culture and the english language.
Muslims in Europe...accept the way the government is and deal with it.

Assimilate!

Ive recently been reading/watching alot about prophets and they all seem to agree & point towards a major war from the middle east (Iran area mainly) and consuming the world in a 3rd world war which kills alot of humanity and with all the hatered now days it seems to be heading that way. Im just greatful they also say that a thousand plus years of enligtenment come after this 3rd ww. I hope that one day evryone will just chill out and learn we have to live togther but its obviously gonna take alot of deaths befor half of us are inteligent enough to work it out

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Originally posted by Mcphisto
Cant you see why people are turning against muslims? Its not hard, pick a paper up or turn on the tv.

yep, as I thought, another product of television. I dont know why we call it that. Its turn off the TB is more like it, teleblind.

put down the remote and educate yourself.