october 5th mass demos

i came across this site today announcing a day of mass resistance of people who have had enough of the bush regime and the way things are heading.

they are asking people to walk out of their jobs or schools etc on oct 5th, and demonstrate in the streets.

its backed by some very famous people also.

so, will you be joining them?

First test for the new fascists law they passed on the 28. It'll be interesting, i hope this bring revolution. I won't be able to participe, because i'm not even in the US but if I would be able to go, I would go for sure to show them that we don't fear to demonstrate that the entire world is tired of this crap and want their constitution back no matter what.

Its sounds like a good idea.
But protests can do any good if they on deaf ears.
And you can believe Bush and co. arent listening and if they aremthey could care less. But my hats off to these people for trying to make a difference.

Yep, I'll be at the one here! They did a great job in promo-ing the date, as well. I almost never have a chance to make it to one, because I only hear about it when I pass the demonstration in my car.

This one I know about, and I am making a point of being there. Dusted off the old pickets, made new signs, and I'm gonna exercise those 1st Amendment rights! Now, let's just hope that the crowds stay somewhat peaceful. I'll try to take some vid/pics, but you know how an "outsider" can be regarded with a camera to some people paranoid of "agents" watching out. I know I am.

I can't wait. Though I wish I could say that by Oct. 5th, it would be pointless in a good way.

Oh yes! I will be there!

Last year we did something similar on Sept. 30 (Orange Friday).
We need more people to participate this time. We need to speak out.

I was doing some reading last night, do you know what they are calling the generation following Generation X? If you are somewhere around 18 to 25 years of age right now, I am talking to you! Do you know what they are saying about you? Do you know what they are calling you? You are being referred to as the "Silent Generation." For the sake of everything good and right, say something! Don't just sit silently, make them hear you! Make them change what they are calling you!

From the movie V for Vendetta, "All they want is your silent consent."

Your silence + inaction = consent

Say something! Have the backbone to send the message that you will not remain silent.

If you are older and not a part of the Silent Generation, then you already know what to do. I hope to see you resisting on October 5.

Just found out there is a rally spot here in my city at 1pm,so count me in,i'll definately be there!

I can't access the link, any other way in?

Nevermind........it's working now.

[edit on 1-10-2006 by interestedalways]

I am one person who thinks protests are worthless and have no effect, nothing ever comes of them and I dont care if you say: oh well it takes time! BULL!!!!! If protesting worked then this war would have been over more than 3 years ago (Iraq war not Afghanistan) and o so many problems in this nation would be solved. As we can all see that has not happened despite the fact that people are more enraged than ever, disertion rates are up, and if we worked on it we could make a book on how things have fallen apart. Its not that they dont want to hear people, its the fact they do hear them but they do not care what people are saying or are going to say. When you own the military, police, FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS (dept. of homeland security), or let me just sum it up: ALL govt. organizations. So we cant even touch them, want more proof? How much do we rely on them? Just go to the store, voila! You are supporting the corporations because one way or another they have a hand in it. Not convinced? Where does your food come from? A small farm or a corporate farm? Almost all food in the US comes from corporate farms now, so you cant even eat food without having to deal with them.
We are cornered, and we have three options: Surrender, squak but never do anything about it, fight and have a 50/50 chance of winning or being annihilated. So which will you do? Fight to the death for freedom and to stop them or give up?


Remember this always: GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!

That was a founding principle of the nation, be free or die trying.

Whoever's going, get some pictures and/or video and u2u me with the results, I'd love to see. This part of Texas is mostly Bush country, I haven't heard of this until reading the link.

But then, I don't get out much either.

Good luck to all who are going. As the poor man's james bond says, don't bring your wallet, but do cover your face. And bring a gas mask.

EDIT: And for God's sake, if anything crazy happens with police attacking or arresting people when they shouldn't be, please please get it on camera.



[edit on 1-10-2006 by Astygia]

I say fie on these protests! I support President Bush and I admire him for standing up for what he believes in; even in the face of a slander campaign by the liberal media.

God Bless America.

-- Boat

there's already one planned for november second: it's called election day.

I'd go if I could, but I can't miss school.

Well that and I hate crownds to the point that I stay away from
them as much as possible.


I respect the individuals who are going to do it though.

[edit on 10/2/2006 by iori_komei]

I really really want to goto the one local to me, but with this new bill being passed, will i be labeled an enemy combatant by the bush admin. He said it himself, "you are either with us or you are with the terrorists"

Its a sad day in this country when you have to second guess going to a protest because you can be locked up, held indefinitely and tried as a terrorist just for standing up for what you believe in.

Is it me or does this new bill just stink to hi heaven of more control over the disapproval of the current admin. Something just doesnt sit right about this whole thing.

Originally posted by S1LV3R4D0

Its a sad day in this country when you have to second guess going to a protest because you can be locked up, held indefinitely and tried as a terrorist just for standing up for what you believe in.

oh please. show me one instance where someone has been arrested for peacefully protesting the iraq war.

if you want to stand up for what you believe in, go to your polling station and vote come election day. when you consider that for all the bitching and moaning here that this country has an average of about 30% of eligible voters making it to the booths, which means that two thirds of the people at that protest probably didnt even bother to vote last election, then you have to realize that their protest is meaningless.

oh please. show me one instance where someone has been arrested for peacefully protesting the iraq war.

You're kidding, it passed 3 days ago. This protest will be a test. But I'm sure he won't use it until the elections.

If I go in front of the US ambassy in Canada is it good? I'll be there with a big sign saying: The Bush administration is full of traitors, impeach them.

[edit on 2-10-2006 by Vitchilo]

well you go right ahead and freak out about it. meanwhile youve got idiots screaming obscenities that have very little, if anything, to do with the war at the families of dead soldiers during their funerals. if they dont get arrested, do you really think that you will be? but hey, i understand that SO is selling tin hats that will protect you from the man.

What new bill are you talking about..

If this is 1pm I wont miss work, I like my job to much to miss it... Plus its a mom and pop type place.. so it would be hurting them rather than helping them.

Originally posted by snafu7700
oh please. show me one instance where someone has been arrested for peacefully protesting the iraq war.

Oh, I think we can do better than just one...

How about this one from September 26?

Washington, D.C. - A rally against the Iraqi War at the U.S. Capitol, on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, led to the arrests of 71 protesters by the police, according to a spokesperson for one of the organizers...

One of the protesters arrested was Max Obuszewski of Baltimore. He’s with the NCNR. He demanded to know from the police before being cuffed by them: “What about the First Amendment?” Obuszewski, with eleven other activists, was arrested on the west side of the Capitol for trying to deliver a symbolic coffin to the U.S. Congress.

And one year previously, to the day:

Updated: 5:47 p.m. ET Sept. 26, 2005

WASHINGTON - Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who has used her son’s death in Iraq to spur the antiwar movement, was arrested Monday while protesting outside the White House.

Sheehan and several dozen other protesters sat down on the sidewalk after marching along the pedestrian walkway on Pennsylvania Avenue. Police warned them three times that they were breaking the law by failing to move along, then began making arrests.

What about a thousand people arrested at the 2004 Republican convention?

You can't even use the public highway any more.
And it doesn't matter how old you are or if you're videotaping, not protesting.
And there'd better not be more than 25 of you...
And whatever you do, don't make a note of any license plates!

It's interesting... while doing my easy Google search, I came across a Fox News story called Hundreds Across U.S. Protest War With Iraq. To read this story, a few malcontents sprayed fake blood over themselves and paraded outside Rumsfeld's house. There's a dismissive line about protests also taking place in New York.

A friend of mine lives in Manhattan and he said news coverage that day was so weird. He didn't go on the demo himself, but he saw thousands - he thought at least several tens of thousands - of people on the street. Of course, they were being herded into so-called "free speech zones". They tried that trick on a friend from Boston and he observed that in fact the whole country was a "free speech zone".

But although my NY friend saw a lot of people on the street there was precious little about it in the media. I wonder why not? He was freaked that there could be so many on the streets and so little coverage. I think it woke him up to some things.

Well, not any more it isn't.

[edit on 2-10-2006 by rich23]

umm, i think i said peacefully protesting. you know as well as i do that every arrest you site, especially sheehan, involves very unpeaceful like behaviour.

Originally posted by Vekar
I am one person who thinks protests are worthless and have no effect, nothing ever comes of them…

I do understand. I have been to so many protests and nothing has changed. I can’t just stop trying though. What do you suggest instead of protesting? I think that protesting helps to build momentum. It is rare that one person will fight alone, but if that one person sees that there are many people who feel the same way, it may give them strength and motivation.

Originally posted by S1LV3R4D0
I really really want to goto the one local to me, but with this new bill being passed, will i be labeled an enemy combatant by the bush admin. He said it himself, "you are either with us or you are with the terrorists"

What is wrong with being labeled an enemy of something that you don’t believe in? I actually own a t-shirt that says on the front, “Either you are with us, or you are with the enemy. George W Bush”
On the back of the shirt in large bold letters it says, “ENEMY.” I’ll gladly label myself the enemy of the current politics.

Originally posted by snafu7700
umm, i think i said peacefully protesting. you know as well as i do that every arrest you site, especially sheehan, involves very unpeaceful like behaviour.

I personally know Cindy and I have never known her to do anything that wasn’t peaceful. What type of behavior would you classify as not peaceful? One of her first arrests was for sitting on the sidewalk after she was told that she would need to sit elsewhere. So, she didn’t follow directions. That certainly doesn’t mean that she wasn’t being peaceful. She was just sitting quietly on a public sidewalk. She shouldn’t have to move if she isn’t obstructing traffic, disturbing the peace, or on someone else’s private property. Her taxes built that sidewalk.

Originally posted by rich23
A friend of mine lives in Manhattan and he said news coverage that day was so weird.... He was freaked that there could be so many on the streets and so little coverage.
edited by wwn

I have seen the same thing happen many times. At one peace rally I attended we had about 3000 signatures on a guest registry. The news reported that, “over 100 people attended.” One afternoon in Crawford 300 of us marched to Bush’s ranch. CNN said that, “dozens of people made their way” down the road.