NAMBLA - North American Man/Boy Love Association

Originally posted by iori_komei
Yeah, I really haveto disagree, in general people who are categorised
as homosexual, don't really like even being associated in the slightest
way with NAMBLA.

Not to sound like a bigot, but because I don't associate with homosexuals I really don't know what they associate with. I do know what NAMBLA claims to represent,so, I kind of have to go by the image they present to the public. Let me clarify, I have only known about two homosexuals in my life, so i really don't know where they stand on issues.

[edit on 28-9-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]

Wow I guess you never watch The Factor or have been suddenly possessed by Bill O'Reilly over your 21st birthday!

But yeah, this has been known to regular FOX viewers for a while now. It is repugnant to our culture now, but in ancient Greek culture young boys often had sexual relationships with their teachers.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
Wow I guess you never watch The Factor or have been suddenly possessed by Bill O'Reilly over your 21st birthday!

Yeah,O'Reilly did a segment on this filthy group about five years ago.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
I was wathing the O'Reilly Factor ...

I think the organization should be banned and the members of it given jail sentences,personally.

Hmmm... Putting people in jail for what they think? Interesting idea...

Well,now wait a minute!! If these people are pushing for the age limit to be set for eight and nine years old, it would seem to me that their motive is too legalize things that they are already doing.No? The last time I looked,pedophilia is illegal. Right?

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Not to sound like a bigot, but because I don't associate with homosexuals I really don't know what they associate with. I do know what NAMBLA claims to represent,so, I kind of have to go by the image they present to the public. Let me clarify, I have only known about two homosexuals in my life, so i really don't know where they stand on issues.

Knowing that, no I don't consider you a bigot.

But like I said, in general the majorityof homosexual people dislike
NAMBLA, and highy dislikeeven being talked about in the same para-
graph as NAMBLA.

Well,now wait a minute!! If these people are pushing for the age limit to be set for eight and nine years old, it would seem to me that their motive is too legalize things that they are already doing.No? The last time I looked,pedophilia is illegal. Right?

With NAMBLA, I would'nt doubt there actually ding it, and not in the
consentual way either.

But you can pomote the legalising of something that's illegal, and not
do it yourself.

[edit on 9/28/2006 by iori_komei]

Originally posted by iori_komei

But you can pomote the legalising of something that's illegal, and not
do it yourself.

[edit on 9/28/2006 by iori_komei]

Very true...For some reason,I am not sure if I'd give this group that benefit of the doubt.

Originally posted by YoBrandonRaps
NAMBLA is real?!?!?!

I always thought that was just a joke!

Yeah it's real... sad huh?

It should be noted ACLU represents them.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth


Not to sound like a bigot, but because I don't associate with homosexuals I really don't know what they associate with. I do know what NAMBLA claims to represent,so, I kind of have to go by the image they present to the public. Let me clarify, I have only known about two homosexuals in my life, so i really don't know where they stand on issues.

Maybe if you knew more about gays you'ld be able to make a better judgement on this issue. Same thing happened with me. I was raised by a homophobe(dad), once I got to university, I learned differently. KNOWLEDGE is the key to denying ignorance. I suggest you arm yourself with it. "Denying FEAR" is also a good idea. We fear what we don't understand. Again knowledge is the key.

BTW, I'm straight. No agenda here.

Originally posted by intrepid

Maybe if you knew more about gays you'ld be able to make a better judgement on this issue. Same thing happened with me. I was raised by a homophobe(dad), once I got to university, I learned differently. KNOWLEDGE is the key to denying ignorance. I suggest you arm yourself with it. "Denying FEAR" is also a good idea. We fear what we don't understand. Again knowledge is the key.

Yeah,well,I have been around them in college and such but I have only known two or three of them personally.

I am surprised at the number of people who didn't know that NAMBLA was real. My friends and I have actually joked about it since elementary school, and I am 30! I can't blame peole for the homosexual association, I mean, it is the MAN BOY love association. I know homosexuality and paedophilia are two seperate things, but NAMBLA is one place where the two do meet.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well,now wait a minute!! If these people are pushing for the age limit to be set for eight and nine years old, it would seem to me that their motive is too legalize things that they are already doing.No? The last time I looked,pedophilia is illegal. Right?

Emphasis added.

Perhaps "it would seem"... But you're actually advocating throwing people in jail for what seems to be happening? If they're already doing it (having sex with children), it's already against the law and they should be arrested, yes. But, this group is trying to change the law. You said you thought the group should be banned and the members thrown in jail when the group's aim is simply to change the law.

They claim to advocate changing the laws. They claim in fact, NOT to be doing anything illegal. Now, if that's found to be a lie, then they should be arrested, but as long as they're just wanting to do something, they should be as free as a bird. There's no law against WANTING something. Yet ... If O'Reilly has his way, that may change... :shk:

I'm just saying that NORMAL (pushing for legalization of marijuana) also is pushing to change the laws on something. Should all their members be thrown in jail? You're assuming guilt.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
I am not sure if I'd give this group that benefit of the doubt.

But giving the benefit of the doubt (innocent until proven guilty) is what our legal system is all about.

And yes, Nambla would love to hitch their wagon to homosexuality, which is between two consenting adults. But gay people want nothing to do with Nambla for obvious reasons.

[edit on 28-9-2006 by Benevolent Heretic]

when I saw the SP episode, I just thought it was a made up funny group. I couldn't actually believe there was a real association where all the perverts socialise.

Incredible. I wish someone would just firebomb one of their meetings.

Bill O'Reilly has been carrying on a campaign against NAMBLA for some time now and exposing the actions of the ACLU which is defending the organization.

This is from O'Reilly's site.

Factor Follow Up Segment
Victim of NAMBLA?
Guest: Attorney Larry Frisoli

10-year old Jeffrey Curley was murdered by two members of the notorious North American Man Boy Love Association in 1997. His parents filed a wrongful death suit against NAMBLA, claiming the group encourages the rape of minors. The case has dragged on for five years, with NAMBLA receiving free representation by the ACLU. "The problem is the strategy of the defense," explained the Curley's attorney Larry Frisoli. "They are attempting to outspend us to death. The cost of prosecuting this case is approaching $1 million, and the American Civil Liberties Union has millions of dollars." The Factor blamed the federal court for not pushing the case forward. "My contention is that the government could say to the defense, 'okay, stop delaying, let's go.' The defense just wants to wear you down so you go away." Frisoli also claimed that Charles Jaynes, one of the men convicted of killing Jeffrey Curley, has continued his decadent lifestyle in prison. "Two inmates have told me that Jaynes is soliciting other inmates to join NAMBLA, he's having sex with other inmates in the bathroom of the law library, and he's bragging that not only did he murder Jeffrey Curley, but that he sexually assaulted Jeffrey after he was dead."

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[edit on 2006/9/29 by GradyPhilpott]

Grady brings up great examples, and it has me gritting my teeth that these stories have not been mainstream stories. It upsets me that stories like this can go without notice while what Brangelina has done as of recent is filling the headlines.

I'm amazed I have any enamel left.

I have several Homosexual friends. Though I do not agree with their sexual preference, they are good people and deserving of respect.

NAMBLA is in a word, disgusting. Almost as much as the ACLU that supports them.

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Homosexual is not a synonym for NAMBLA.

We need to understand this goes beyond homosexuality and sexual relations with children. These individuals are under the imperssion that these children can make a conscious decision that the sex in their near future is their best decision.

Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization - and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture - ancient Greece and the Renaissance.
...
Pederasty, like homosexuality, has existed, and exists, in all societies that have ever been studied. Homoeroticism is a ubiquitous feature of human experience, as even efforts to repress it confirm. Men and youths have always been attracted to each other, and, like homosexuality in general, their love is irrepressible.

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Where do they get this nonsense from?!

I'm gay myself, and in my opinion this is absolutely ridiculous and disgusting.

Clearly this "boy-love" is focussed on sex (pederast = a man who has sex (usually sodomy) with a boy as the passive partner). They (NABMLA) focus on the so-called "beauty" of a boy's body, the sexuality and in the end "sexual freedom". How can they draw parallels with homosexuality or heterosexuality?
Sexuality is more than just the act of sex or even the physical attraction to someone (a boy). I could never be attracted to a young boy, because there is no way that a child - not even an 18 y.o. - would ever satisfy my emotional or intellectual needs.

It's absurd and actually an embarrassment that homosexuality is even mentioned in the same sentence as this "boy-love".


[edit on 29-9-2006 by Gemwolf]

Readers of this thread.

Please have I look at what I wrote at politics.abovetopsecret.com...

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It kind of sucks that mostly men do this. Except for the teacher things you hear about.

There isn't a woman-girl love association

Originally posted by spinstopshere
There isn't a woman-girl love association

That's a misconception. Butterfly Kisses (Not a direct Link to the site, but to a story on the organization) is such a group. I didn't try very hard, but I couldn't find a direct link to their site. But there's plenty of information on it out there.

While the site's opening page features an apparently wholesome photograph of a mother appreciating her child, "the primary goal" of presenting the subsequent material is clearly stated in the introduction as giving "women and girls a tool for expressing their feelings and their love about this controversial topic, and to get people to open their minds to ideas about romantic and erotic attraction between women and girls that our society in the past has not been able to discuss openly and rationally."

Pedophilia isn't just for men...

[edit on 29-9-2006 by Benevolent Heretic]