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How did Atta's passport actually survive?

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posted on May, 1 2018 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: Jay-morris
It is absolutly rediculus to think that a plane, that pretty much disintegrated on impact, dropped a passport that so happened to be from one of the terrorists. You really could not make this nonsense up!


Really from a thread I did on the Empire State Building crash.


The body of the Navy hitch-hiker Albert Perna was found two days after the crash at the bottom of an elevator shaft


More here read and learn

Confused Truther physics with regards to Aircraft & Building impacts


And how many bodies did they find from the plane that hit the towers?

Again, how many passports were found?



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

You act like a passport has never been recovered along with jet wreckage? So you are saying jet wreckage did not escape the initial impacts? Or pictures of human remains are usually made public?



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jay-morris

You act like a passport has never been recovered along with jet wreckage? So you are saying jet wreckage did not escape the initial impacts? Or pictures of human remains are usually made public?


Someone actually going to answer my question?



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Jay-morris
It is absolutly rediculus to think that a plane, that pretty much disintegrated on impact, dropped a passport that so happened to be from one of the terrorists. You really could not make this nonsense up!


In your mind maybe but you'd be surpised what can survive an impact like that




Were these from the plane and were they found pre-collapse??



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

They found remains of the terrorists as identified by DNA at the WTC. Yes

Now....

You act like a passport has never been recovered along with jet wreckage? So you are saying jet wreckage did not escape the initial impacts? Or pictures of human remains are usually made public?



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jay-morris

They found remains of the terrorists as identified by DNA at the WTC. Yes

Now....

You act like a passport has never been recovered along with jet wreckage? So you are saying jet wreckage did not escape the initial impacts? Or pictures of human remains are usually made public?



Please! Answer my question. Was that the only passport found? Simple yes or no please



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jay-morris

They found remains of the terrorists as identified by DNA at the WTC. Yes

Now....

You act like a passport has never been recovered along with jet wreckage? So you are saying jet wreckage did not escape the initial impacts? Or pictures of human remains are usually made public?



Please! Answer my question. Was that the only passport found? Simple yes or no please


Are you saying there was no other personal items and documents recovered from the WTC flights? Are you say hundreds of IDs were not recovered from the WRzc Rubble?

A little research would give you better arguments? And insight what conspiracy site hide?



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 03:38 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jay-morris

They found remains of the terrorists as identified by DNA at the WTC. Yes

Now....

You act like a passport has never been recovered along with jet wreckage? So you are saying jet wreckage did not escape the initial impacts? Or pictures of human remains are usually made public?



Please! Answer my question. Was that the only passport found? Simple yes or no please


The simple fact is it doesn't matter you are looking at the probability of an event and working backwards, strange things happen all the time assuming that could never happen and working backwards is the wrong way.

Assuming an answer based on one event is wrong, other documents were found part of the wreakage wasn't found until in 2013 what are the chances of that stuck in a narrow gap between 2 buildings.

Anyway was it Atta's passport that was found or Satam al-Suqami, 2 other passports were found at the Flight 93 site.



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jay-morris

They found remains of the terrorists as identified by DNA at the WTC. Yes

Now....

You act like a passport has never been recovered along with jet wreckage? So you are saying jet wreckage did not escape the initial impacts? Or pictures of human remains are usually made public?



Please! Answer my question. Was that the only passport found? Simple yes or no please


The simple fact is it doesn't matter you are looking at the probability of an event and working backwards, strange things happen all the time assuming that could never happen and working backwards is the wrong way.

Assuming an answer based on one event is wrong, other documents were found part of the wreakage wasn't found until in 2013 what are the chances of that stuck in a narrow gap between 2 buildings.

Anyway was it Atta's passport that was found or Satam al-Suqami, 2 other passports were found at the Flight 93 site.


From the plane that hit the trade centre, the same plane they found the passport, what other items were found?

I am gathering, by the lack of a straight answer, that no other passports were found?



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

In a high speed plane crash you don't find much in terms of human remains

Done body recovery at plane crash so have first hand knowledge

Here is excerpt detailing some of the remains recovered



Take for example Lisa Frost from seat 22A on United Flight 175. “In the end, a bone fragment, a skin-tissue sample, part of the right hip, and part of a collarbone were found.


In addition found her UNITED MILES card with remains



Then somebody somewhere found Lisa’s frequent flyer “United Mileage Plus” card.


More on remains of the passengers recovered

911conspiracy.wordpress.com...



posted on May, 1 2018 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

These parts are from same plane, UNITED 175

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posted on May, 2 2018 @ 02:56 AM
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originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: Jay-morris

These parts are from same plane, UNITED 175

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Ok, so there was only one passport found, which happens to be from one of the terrorists on the plane?



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: kyleplatinum

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Jay-morris
It is absolutly rediculus to think that a plane, that pretty much disintegrated on impact, dropped a passport that so happened to be from one of the terrorists. You really could not make this nonsense up!


In your mind maybe but you'd be surpised what can survive an impact like that




Were these from the plane and were they found pre-collapse??


Recovered after the event and i'm not sure how many were from the plane. One looks like a WTC2 visitors pass



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 03:20 AM
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Which is not the only personal item or documents that survived the jet impacts found among jet wreckage in the street. All the while you cannot provide evidence it was planted, or even make a credible argument why it needed to be planted. All the while ignoring the passport was not the only recovered ID from the WTC disaster. All the while ignoring pass jet crashes where passports and documents have survived.

So? Why plant the passport in the first place?
edit on 2-5-2018 by neutronflux because: Added and fixed



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 03:41 AM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: Jay-morris

These parts are from same plane, UNITED 175

sites.google.com...

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Ok, so there was only one passport found, which happens to be from one of the terrorists on the plane?


How many passports would you expect on domestic flights?



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 03:47 AM
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Since somebody produced the description of the passport from an evidence log from the WTC, I guess the whole thing about the WTC not being treated as a crime scene is a bold face truth movement lie.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 03:48 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jay-morris

Which is not the only personal item or documents that survived the jet impacts found among jet wreckage in the street. All the while you cannot provide evidence it was planted, or even make a credible argument why it needed to be planted. All the while ignoring the passport was not the only recovered ID from the WTC disaster. All the while ignoring pass jet crashes where passports and documents have survived.

So? Why plant the passport in the first place?


What other items from the wreckage? Was there any other paper form items found? I am not saying it was planted, but it is highly dubious don't you Think?

I know you worship your government, but don't you find it a bit odd?



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 03:49 AM
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originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: Jay-morris

These parts are from same plane, UNITED 175

sites.google.com...

sites.google.com...

sites.google.com...



Ok, so there was only one passport found, which happens to be from one of the terrorists on the plane?


How many passports would you expect on domestic flights?


More than one I would think. And how many other items, mainly paper items survived the impact?



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 04:03 AM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: Jay-morris

These parts are from same plane, UNITED 175

sites.google.com...

sites.google.com...

sites.google.com...



Ok, so there was only one passport found, which happens to be from one of the terrorists on the plane?


How many passports would you expect on domestic flights?


More than one I would think.


Why?



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 05:31 AM
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originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: Jay-morris

These parts are from same plane, UNITED 175

sites.google.com...

sites.google.com...

sites.google.com...



Ok, so there was only one passport found, which happens to be from one of the terrorists on the plane?


How many passports would you expect on domestic flights?


More than one I would think.


Why?


We're they all American? Would they take their passport or ID card?

I do not know, as I do not know who was on the plane.



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