John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

Here is a closeup of the object...



Below is the same area with a few more details...



The yellow markings show 1) The Structure; 2) Curved row of Spheres. They appear on both images. In the image below area 3) shows parallel rows of spheres and 4) shows tubes with supports;





Close up of Area 3;



The last image below is my best enhancement of the new image. I had trouble before getting the "City" into images that made it visible to others, but now I had something to compare to and work with...



And don't give me that "I only see rocks.." line It will earn you the iggy button

Originally posted by johnlear Yes Matyas.

You can call me Matt, its all the same from where I sit

So that last juicy tidbit about Lisa Novak to hit the airwaves leads one to wonder just how tortured the minds of our astronauts are... you don't need to answer that

We are a team here, right? And as a good team we will work together, so the point is taken already, then. Are we ?

Great! Thought so!

Originally posted by undo I especially like the comments about Saturn. Is it as big as they depict it? How would the gravity effect it?

Hey team! We are really lucky to have undo, if I could-I would give her an applause!

O-K, APPLAUSE!

Well, about Saturn, you see, they say as above, so below, so in a sense you are the Saturn of our system, complete with rings and bands, erm...ummum...

You know the Urim and the Thummim, those are two rocks, one a cube and the other a sphere, which is which I know not offhand, but that hexagon that was first spotted INDEPEDENTLY of NASA on Saturn's north pole, well, you get my meaning, so I will leave it at that.

*scrunches up her eyebrows* Oy.

One of Hoagland's hyperdimensional thingies? thinking sphere and cube, star of david or something.

I give up! What are you talking about Matyas!?

Just one quick Cliff Note lesson here. The Universe (I distinguish the totality of Universe from the material universe) is built out of two building blocks for patterns, the square and the circle. Their three dimensional analogues are the cube and the sphere. A cube has six sides, and forms a hexagon when viewed from any corner. A sphere deforms into a torus with solitons at the poles and a vortex (reminiscent of a stargate) through the center. The cube, or hexagon, is your coordinate or measurement system (space), and the sphere, or vortex, is your conveyance (motion, time). Together in any degree they form a complete design, a blueprint for existence.

All motion motors-circle with four quadrants-as space-a relative lattice.

Here is a photo of Petavius B from AS8-14-2485:

Originally posted by johnlear
Here is a photo of Petavius B from AS8-14-2485:

John do you have longitude and latitude for Petavius? This image is a book scan, correct? I see the same objects but they are not as clear...

More work

Originally posted by zorgon
Just spent the last few hours looking through all the Apollo directories I could find and did an extensive search for AS08-12-2189...

Its not there Only in our book scans or Kieth's site can find it. As a matter of fact very few Apollo 8 images show up save a few publicity shots... repeated over and over.

I was hoping to find a few more for comparison... no luck yet

Here you go.

AS08-12-2189:

AS08-14-2485:

Theres an image called AS08-14-2485-A also at the below source that is there in the FTP directory that I requested. Not posting it here cause it's just a little to big for ImageShack to host (1.7 mb)


Source: eol.jsc.nasa.gov...

FTP Link: eol.jsc.nasa.gov...

~Anathema

[edit on 4/12/2007 by anathema777]

Originally posted by anathema777


Here you go.

Source: eol.jsc.nasa.gov...

~Anathema

Eek, that's really a nice big file but the area in question is really messed up. There's streaks of gray stuff , that look like long gray clouds, just hanging over the objects around the outside of it that you can barely make out threw the strips of gray. Distinguishing features on the other one John posted, are nearly indiscernible. Could be contrast or the mode it was saved in, but oy, for as big as that is, it's certainly not very revealing.

Here is Petavius B from Apollo 10 AS10-27-3929. You can see the difference from the Apollo photo. They have used extensive air brushing. Here is a portion of AS10-27-3929 with the eastern portion of Petavius B at the top indicated with a blue arrow:



And here is an enlargment of Petavius B in AS10-27-3929:



And here is that enlargement with blue lines indicating where the 'arms' are. You can see NASA has used their famous 'ejecta' which is NASA secret code for 'airbrushing cities with white paint'.



This is the first time I have identified a city on the near side. To refresh your memory here is the city (Petavius B) from Apollo 8 AS8-12-2189:




I am currently waiting for copyright approval to post "Lunar Photo Of The Day" of Petavius B which will show how every little artifact, bump, mound, arm etc, has been airbrushed away.

Originally posted by zorgon
John do you have longitude and latitude for Petavius?

I am not John, obviously, but if you want the coordinates for Petavius, they are:

25.1S 60.4E

OK, where exactly is the ‘city’ on this image:

www.lpi.usra.edu... pg



[edit on 13-4-2007 by smartie]

Originally posted by smartie
OK, where exactly is the ‘city’ on this image:

www.lpi.usra.edu... pg

[edit on 13-4-2007 by smartie]

link didn't work

Edit: Works now. Interesting pic!

[edit on 13-4-2007 by undo]

again:

www.lpi.usra.edu... pg

gotta love the pipe on raised supports going through the middle of peta.

Originally posted by smartie
OK, where exactly is the ‘city’ on this image:

www.lpi.usra.edu... pg

[edit on 13-4-2007 by smartie]

This is a photo of Petavius. My post was about Petavius B. Thanks.

Does anyone here know where there is an image which shows any of the stuff we left behind on the Moon, ie Buggy and LEM?

Do any exist?

Originally posted by undo
Eek, that's really a nice big file but the area in question is really messed up. There's streaks of gray stuff , that look like long gray clouds, just hanging over the objects around the outside of it that you can barely make out threw the strips of gray. Distinguishing features on the other one John posted, are nearly indiscernible. Could be contrast or the mode it was saved in, but oy, for as big as that is, it's certainly not very revealing.

Thanks Anathema... Exactly what I was looking for Yes that one has been completely altered compared to the one John posted and the version from Kieth


[edit on 13-4-2007 by zorgon]

Sorry John,

Here it is:

www.lpi.usra.edu...http://
Click on the Hi Res.

Originally posted by ArMaP
I am not John, obviously, but if you want the coordinates for Petavius, they are:
25.1S 60.4E

LOL I wouldn't have known that if you didn't tell me
But thank you Now I can go see what Clementine did with that area

Petavius b crater: 33km in diameter, lat.= 20s, long.= 57e

Beth... lets find this in the old clementine set and the mapper. It will be interesting to compare them

[edit on 13-4-2007 by zorgon]