Bob Lazar fact or fiction???

Originally posted by chris01621
Animals are here for us to feast on.
Deal with it or be a vegitarian.

Absolutely, there is nothing like a thick juicy steak.

Animals and vegetation were created for food and enjoyment by humans.

Avoiding eating animals will not add an iota to your enlightenment quotient; in fact it might deduct a few points from it.

Originally posted by chris01621
Hey Sleeper, you say you went on this craft in the military, was it the well documented sport model or a different craft?

Hey Sleeper could you answer this for me plz?
If it was different what did it look like?

[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by chris01621
Animals are here for us to feast on. Deal with it or be a vegEtarian.

Absolutely, there is nothing like a thick juicy steak... (blah blah blah)

nice guff, your fanboys will be delighted

Paul: i'm naturally allergic to the regimes inherent in 'mystic' orders, and the dangling of 'ascension' like a carrot sets off my alarm bells (yes they use the 'A' word in that link). However, many of your points & reference materials resonate, i'll spend some time reading & thinking about them, thanks.

Originally posted by chris01621
Hey guys, go on this and look at the bottom of the screen, Not sure if its fake or not, the film is so blurry.

But just to clarify look at the bottom of the screen and almost invisible.

www.youtube.com...

I think it goes nicley with the greys having almost spirit like abilities.

[edit on 25-8-2006 by chris01621]

O.K guys stop talking about wether or not we should be vegitarien and get back to aliens and other related topics (I dont mind the existence of spirits). Just look at these videoi clips and tell me what you think

Originally posted by chris01621
I think this is also quite a good find.

www.youtube.com...

Do you think this could be a meteorite or a spacecraft

[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]

Also have any of you read on the ats forum or heard of, Solar Oblitiration.
It is a form of photographing In which you stand with your camera next to your house or a building so you just block out the sun, you take your picture and see what is there, now alot of time you can see some object at high altitude.

The idea is that ufo's are useing the suns rays to shield them from us seeing them.
I must say I was quite impressed with what i've seen on the picctures shown in the ats forum called Solar oblitiration...

[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]

Originally posted by chris01621

Originally posted by chris01621
Hey guys, go on this and look at the bottom of the screen, Not sure if its fake or not, the film is so blurry.

But just to clarify look at the bottom of the screen and almost invisible.

www.youtube.com...

I think it goes nicley with the greys having almost spirit like abilities.

[edit on 25-8-2006 by chris01621]

O.K guys stop talking about wether or not we should be vegitarien and get back to aliens and other related topics (I dont mind the existence of spirits). Just look at these videoi clips and tell me what you think

The video is an obvious fake.

It is that dancing alien thing superimposed into the vid

The video is an obvious fake.

It is that dancing alien thing superimposed into the vid

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What do you think of the thing crashing in the desert

[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]

Originally posted by chris01621

Originally posted by chris01621
Hey Sleeper, you say you went on this craft in the military, was it the well documented sport model or a different craft?

Hey Sleeper could you answer this for me plz?
If it was different what did it look like?

Not sure what you mean by sport model, the ship I was in during my military days was the same one I have been in many times before and after my service in the army.

I have been in others. I have given a description many times on ats but not all the pertinent details. I don’t intend on putting that info out there just yet.

No problem Sleeper.

The sport model is what Bob Lazar nicknamed one of the crafts he saw,
I have also seen him on t.v. saying there was 1 looked like a jello mould Another looked like a top hat and I think there was another one but I can't remember..

If you go to boblazar.com you can see his idea of what the sport model is>

Originally posted by chris01621

The video is an obvious fake.

It is that dancing alien thing superimposed into the vid

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What do you think of the thing crashing in the desert

[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]
What thing crashing in what desert ?

[edit on 26-8-2006 by violet]

Sorry I didn't realize I messed that up, Here is the thing crashing

www.youtube.com...


[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]

[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by chris01621
Animals are here for us to feast on.
Deal with it or be a vegitarian.

Absolutely, there is nothing like a thick juicy steak.

Animals and vegetation were created for food and enjoyment by humans.

Avoiding eating animals will not add an iota to your enlightenment quotient; in fact it might deduct a few points from it.

Uh, kinda like "eat your steak or else it´s going down for you!"
Just kidding, as weired as it might sound i guess it´s not about what you eat but more like the attitude you have while eating it?! Be grateful for whatever good stuff life comes up with, kinda thing...

Sleeper...you quite often says something like "not yet..." or "i´m not allowed to say something about that at this point", phrasing is off but anyway...you obviously know a lot of stuff you are not saying yet...are you seeded information for you own knowledge or is there a "plan" as to what information you are giving at this board at any point in time? Obviously, you share this for a reason, otherwise you would be long gone cause you take a lot of "flak" for the stuff you are saying and like you have said yourself, everything ET does happens for reason, no mistakes!

Added by edit:

Trying to bring this thread back onto topic...sleeper, in a previous thread you said Bob Lazar was full of...ET. Is this a gutfeeling or some piece of information you know?

[edit on 26-8-2006 by tomra]

tomra- everything you need to know about sleeper is here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
And may I suggest that if you wish to get this thread back on topic you discuss Bob Lazar and his claims and not those of the members of ATS.
Don't let the hijackers get ya.

Longhaircowboy, thanks for the pointer
Unlike many i have actually taken the time to read the whole thing, not gonna get into it in this thread but i would advice anyone else who have not read it to do so cause a lot of questions are asked to "sleeper" which has already been answered in that thread.

I guess the Bob Lazar topic is in a moot. I mean, we can discuss it to doomsday without progress unless someone comes forth with new information either backing Lazar up or debunking him...kinda typical for these "UFO/alien" topics me think.

Originally posted by tomra
Sleeper...you quite often says something like "not yet..." or "i´m not allowed to say something about that at this point", phrasing is off but anyway...you obviously know a lot of stuff you are not saying yet...are you seeded information for you own knowledge or is there a "plan" as to what information you are giving at this board at any point in time? Obviously, you share this for a reason, otherwise you would be long gone cause you take a lot of "flak" for the stuff you are saying and like you have said yourself, everything ET does happens for reason, no mistakes!

Hi tomra,

Like I said in a previous post I’m not here to teach or preach, I don’t come to boards like this for information but to tell a fraction of my story for certain ears.

I take lots of flak and sometimes I react to it with attitude but for a reason, that reason is not important.

Information comes to all who want or need it, be it in a dream, in a library, a parent, a teacher or boards like this one.

Even though I am cryptic and a one liner maniac the info is legit for those intended for it, the rest only see a smokescreen.

They release information at certain times to me, and info I already have is for my own use, yet they have the say on what I can tell because there are certain words and concepts that on their own would negate the need for proof.

Trying to bring this thread back onto topic...sleeper, in a previous thread you said Bob Lazar was full of...ET. Is this a gutfeeling or some piece of information you know?

My gut feeling doesn’t work well, Bob is the real deal but he crossed a few lines he shouldn’t have and know he is where he needs to be---his wings have been clipped as far as the public is concerned.

Originally posted by chris01621
Sorry I didn't realize I messed that up, Here is the thing crashing

www.youtube.com...


[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]

[edit on 26-8-2006 by chris01621]

OK I see the crash vid now thanks
I really don't have a clue if it is real or not.

Shar_Chi,

Originally posted by Shar_Chi
Paul: i'm naturally allergic to the regimes inherent in 'mystic' orders, and the dangling of 'ascension' like a carrot sets off my alarm bells (yes they use the 'A' word in that link). However, many of your points & reference materials resonate, i'll spend some time reading & thinking about them, thanks.

Fair enough and you're welcome.

Most of the "ascension" techniques out there are not truly geared for spiritual development. What they really entail is just channeling minor healing energies from a New Age Group Entity.

As such, I know exactly what you are talking about and relate to how you feel on this issue.

[edit on 27-8-2006 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by chris01621
Just look at these videoi clips and tell me what you think

Both video clips are poor quality, highly questionable, and unconvincing.

The Bob Lazar clip is much better...

www.youtube.com...



[edit on 27-8-2006 by Paul_Richard]

Not sure if you saw this one considering I messed up and put the alien in the zoo on twice.
This is real, only thing is it might be a meteorite, thats the question?
The reason i say it's real is the debris, you wil have trouble faking that.
It hits the ground twice and both times you can see debris although the first time it's a little unclear but it's definatly there.

www.youtube.com...



[edit on 27-8-2006 by chris01621]