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posted by XphilesPhan
I hate to tell you but most Cuban refugees hate Castro and cannot wait for him to die. In fact a lot of Cubans hate Castro
posted by marg6043
“ . . After Castro took over most of the exiles were the rich and well to do, while mostly poor and Castro supporters stay in the Island. But they are not the ones that have suffered under his rule, the ones that support Castro had no choice they have learned to live under him . . Yes they support him and even love him - its their Icon . . Exiles found a better life in the US and many of them don't remember what it was to be under Castro's rule. [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by donwhite
I saw one poster refer to a medical doctor who fled from Cuba rather than to practice his healing arts amongst the poor and dispossessed of Cuba. I say, Good Riddance! I’m sure he does not appreciate that Fidel could have had him (and others of like ilk) shot. But instead, Fidel let him and 200,000 others “bail out” of their country. Now with Federal aid they get rich and famous in Little Havana - Miami - and bad mouth the man who did more for them than any living person! Is that a new definition for “gratitude?”
posted by bombers8
posted by donwhite
“ . . Fidel let 200,000 “bail out” of their country. Now rich in Little Havana bad mouthing the man who did more for them . . Is that a new definition for “gratitude?”
Let's see..."I could have you shot! You better be grateful to me!" You have a strange idea of things, donwhite. A murderer allows someone to live, and that makes him a great man? [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by donwhite
But in a more serious vein, you can be sure people of privilege and power do not go quietly into the night.
To my best knowledge, the “500 odd policemen and others” of the former Batista regime who were executed - perhaps summarily? - were the only ones so dealt with by Castro. Any other executions would have been for crimes and after due process. Aside: I wonder if Fidel had as many put to death as Bush43 who ordered 154 executions in 6 years in Texas?
Some studies report that up to several thousands of political opponents have been killed, primarily during the first decade of Castro's leadership;[96] however exact numbers are not known. Some Cubans labeled "counterrevolutionaries", "fascists", or "CIA operatives" have been imprisoned in extremely poor conditions without trial. [97] Military Units to Aid Production, or UMAP's, were labor camps established in 1965, according to Che Guevara, for “people who have committed crimes against revolutionary morals” as well as Castro's concept of "social deviants," including homosexuals and AIDS victims, in order to work "counter-revolutionary" influences out of certain segments of the population. [98] Professor Marifeli Pérez Stable, a Cuban American who once supported the revolution, reflects on the costs of the Cuban revolution. "[There were] thousands of executions, forty, fifty thousand political prisoners. The treatment of political prisoners, with what we today know about human rights and the international norms governing human rights ... it is legitimate to raise questions about possible crimes against humanity in Cuba." [99]Castro acknowledges that Cuba holds political prisoners, but argues that Cuba is justified because these prisoners are not jailed because of their political beliefs, but have been convicted of "counter-revolutionary" crimes, including bombings.
en.wikipedia.org...
The following is a partial list of countries that have the death penalty in place:
Afghan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Chad, China, Congo, Cuba, Egypt, Eritrea, Gabon, Ghana, Guinea, Guyana, India, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Japan, Korea, North and South, Kuwait, Lebanon, Nigeria, Pakistan, Palestinian Authority, St. Christopher, St. Lucia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sudan, Syria, Trinidad and Tobago, UAE, USA, and Vietnam.
Originally posted by donwhite
posted by XphilesPhan
I hate to tell you but most Cuban refugees hate Castro and cannot wait for him to die. In fact a lot of Cubans hate Castro
Uhh, X/P, would "refugees" be the operative word here?
And, how many Americans do you think hate Bush43?
Originally posted by marg6043
Well you already know that the vision of a land of Gold and opportunity brings people from all over not only Cubans and if mind is not playing tricks a lot of immigrants wants to make money or at least come to American and live out of the government.
Originally posted by deltaboy
How about a couple of years ago where dozens of Cubans crash a bus into the Mexican embassy and were seeking for asylum?
Originally posted by marg6043
Perhaps they wanted Mexico because the open borders with the US . . .
Originally posted by deltaboy
Perhaps...but then not everyone came to America just because of the land of opportunity. Many have long to see their homeland again, like for example the Cuban Americans, or the Vietnamese Americans (mostly South Vietnamese).
Originally posted by donwhite
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During 1959 Castro’s government carried out popular measures such as land reform, the nationalization of public utilities and the nationalization of leading Cuban industries including the American Sugar Refining Company. Typical of Communist regimes - I’m tongue-in-cheek -
Originally posted by donwhite
he implemented a ruthless suppression of corruption, including closing down the gambling industry and evicting the American Mafiosi.
AND THEREIN LIES THE CUBAN PARADOX. OR IS IT DILEMMA? Where the US goes, the Mafia - drugs, gambling, prostitution - is soon to follow! Say No Thanks!
Originally posted by donwhite
Under Castro, the expansion of publicly funded health care and education has been a cornerstone of Cuba’s domestic social agenda.
Originally posted by donwhite
Some attribute these policies for Cuba's relatively high Human Development Index. In contrast, look at Haiti, which has seen the intervention of the US more than 10 times, and which we occupied from 1918 to 1933. Haiti is still the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere. Hmm?
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[edit on 8/2/2006 by donwhite]
"Your government's response to The Independent Libraries in Cuba Project clearly violates basic human rights to intellectual freedom.... In persecuting and harassing members of the Cuban library community, your government is striking at the heart of the principles espoused and acted upon by librarians worldwide."
- Letter to President Castro from Kathleen De Long, President of the Canadian Association of College and University Libraries.
OVERVIEW: The general human rights situation in Cuba has been investigated by numerous human rights organizations in recent years. Among the groups which have published reports on Cuba are Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the United Nations Human Rights Commission, Pax Christi Holland, and the Inter-American Human Rights Commission. The Links section of this database allows immediate access to the websites of these organizations. A concise but thorough overview is "Cuba's Repressive Machinery" by Human Rights Watch (www.hrw.org/reports/1999/cuba).