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Originally posted by UnrealZA
In 10 pages of this stuff has "queen" replied to any question that required serious thought, study and reason?
No amount of questioning, no amount of sound exegesis and/or sound hermeneutics will snap queen back into reality until she decides to carry on a sincere and real, non-one-sided chat.
Originally posted by UnrealZA
No amount of questioning, no amount of sound exegesis and/or sound hermeneutics will snap queen back into reality until she decides to carry on a sincere and real, non-one-sided chat.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Originally posted by ratboy
Originally posted by queenannie38
My story is far too long to post in its entirety--it's not something I need to tell to anyone.
For some of us lost sheep, a long personal story may be just what we need. It is of no worry what others say of it, so for the sake of some of us seeking and lost, please do tell. Nothing wrong with shining a little light on another's path instead of keeping it only lit on yours (I don't mean that in a bad way).
I will--it is rather hard to tell, but I will certainly do as you requested. I think first, though, (and I hope you forgive me this) that I must answer the replies made by Saint4God--they will require less in the way of composition, but I won't forget what I've told you I would do. I hope you are around to read it.
Thanks for wanting to know.
Originally posted by queenannie38
No doubt. The main one being one you are probably not aware of; which is your haste to make judgement
Originally posted by queenannie38
for the sake of your own self-justification.
Originally posted by queenannie38
I want to say 'Don't worry about it!' But if I did, I know that you'd reply with something to the effect that you're only worried about me or maybe not worried at all - something to that effect.
Originally posted by queenannie38
But in reality, you are beginning to act like your buddy Sun Matrix, and frankly that worries me.
At any rate...
Saint4God, do you not discern the difference between 'co-existing' and 'being yoked together'?
Originally posted by queenannie38
To co-exist means to get along, side by side on the same planet, regardless of personal belief, and not fight over our differences of any sort, be they spiritual or otherwise!
Originally posted by queenannie38
To be yoked together with another means to labor together in the same field, for the same master, on the same day, and in the same sweat, nearly. It means to share work together.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Well, primarily they are not saying the same thing as the other; not at all! And the second one is totally irrelevant to my reasons for heeding God's reminder to 'be not yoked with unbelievers.' So let's leave that one for another interrogation, if you don't mind.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Paul is speaking of purity. I was motivated by purity. I'm not sure that you can understand what I mean by 'purity'
Originally posted by queenannie38
or why it is of the utmost importance in my life right now. Maybe if you did a word study on the subject,
Originally posted by queenannie38
you might begin to understand. But that's entirely up to you.
Originally posted by queenannie38
And really, Saint4God, why don't you let it go?
Originally posted by queenannie38
Because you know what? It wasn't about you at all. Not any of you; at least not on a personal level.
Originally posted by queenannie38
So get over it.
Originally posted by queenannie38
I did what I had to do, for reasons you would not only refuse to try to understand, if I was so foolish to give you any information at all, you would reject it immediately just based on your own frame of mind and prejudice toward me.
Originally posted by queenannie38
And that is not beneficial from any perspective.
And to be quite honest, I don't have any interest in wasting my time striving and bickering with you over your ideas of what I am representing by anything I say or display on my signature line.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Especially when you didn't reply to my post on whatever thread it was we last exchanged 'ideas.'
Originally posted by queenannie38
Instead you come over here to poke another jab at me, it would seem - while avoiding a direct reply to what I've already said about the same sort of thing that we'd probably quickly get into, right here on this thread.
Originally posted by queenannie38
So either reply to my other post or not. But I'm not going to go round and round, round-robin style, on this board because of your issues (not mine).
Originally posted by queenannie38
I truly doubt you are qualified for that in regards to me.
Originally posted by queenannie38
If you need to chat, why not chat with Saint4God? He's more your type, anyway. And vice versa.
Originally posted by GreatTech
queenannie38, do not take offense. Just a couple of questions. Which religion do you adhere to?
Or are you creating your own religion?
Originally posted by saint4God
The banner does not simply state "co-exist" else I'd have no issue with it.
Let us take in to account some additional things in this banner. Firstly, let's talk about putting other religious symbols along with the cross:
Micah 4:2-5
~2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
~3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
~4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.
~5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.
You seemed very comfortable fighting over the difference between yourself and believers in Christ. If you'd like to review those examples again, I could do so though tire of the redundancy.
Who is like you queenannie? What team is this? Do they have a name, denomination, church, etc? I believe this could answer a lot of questions for both of us.
Originally posted by queenannie38
And really, Saint4God, why don't you let it go?
Originally posted by Saint4GodYou tell me. You've actually already answered that in this post.
On the contrary, you're saying it was about all of us and you still continue to do so. Like dropping a nuclear bomb and saying, "nothing personal guys". Guess what, casualties are still involve en masse.
Not while you insist on tearing down believers by thinking you have a superior understanding of the Word of God.
That in itself is a prejudice, queen.
There's more to discuss, but want to get your take on what you're advertising.
This thread is a more appropriate forum...as this thread is about you.
The other one probably caused some confusion to those who do not know our history of conversation. I didn't want to delve deeply there when it was a topic of Christ's second coming.
Originally posted by queenannie38
What makes you think you have any right to have issue with it, for any reason?
Originally posted by queenannie38
It's on my signature line...and it's not breaking any ATS rules.
Originally posted by queenannie38
You talk about it. It's not an issue with me...
Originally posted by queenannie38
so don't judge what's in my signature.
Originally posted by queenannie38
You're WAY overstepping your bounds.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Read Micah chapter 4.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Unity. Peace. Freedom of religion, even!
Originally posted by queenannie38
I am not fighting. You are the one who keeps this dead horse kicking. Not me.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Who is like you queenannie? What team is this? Do they have a name, denomination, church, etc? I believe this could answer a lot of questions for both of us.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Like I said, YOU are the one who keeps bringing this up. Drop it.
Originally posted by queenannie38
On the contrary, you're saying it was about all of us and you still continue to do so. Like dropping a nuclear bomb and saying, "nothing personal guys". Guess what, casualties are still involve en masse.
Well, then, good...keeps me from having to sharpen my sword so often.
Originally posted by queenannie38
If you truly stand on the Word of God, how can anything I say, or anyone else, TEAR you DOWN?
Originally posted by queenannie38
I never said I had a 'superior' anything.
Originally posted by queenannie38
That in itself is a prejudice, queen.
Proven out enough times to give me a reasonable assurance in stating such a thing. I am not taken in by words, and attitudes show themselves regardless of the words used.
Originally posted by queenannie38
There's more to discuss, but want to get your take on what you're advertising.
UNITY. I'm not 'advertising' it. It's not for sale.
Originally posted by queenannie38
This thread is a more appropriate forum...as this thread is about you.
No, it's not. You're making it about me but this is the end of that. It's ridiculous to go through this meaningless striving for no reason.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Because you decided to ask me, in that thread, why I quoted the bible since I didn't believe in Christ? (or some such nonsense which I can't fully recall...)
And yet when I answer you come over here and quiz me down about the content of my signature line?
Originally posted by queenannie38
Which is irrelevant in any and all threads, IMO...unless it is about signature lines, specifically.
Originally posted by saint4God
It is entirely relevant (especially here). You're promoting a belief system and I'm curious to find out what it is.
Originally posted by yeahright
She's written fairly extensively on this site, s4g.
Originally posted by yeahright
It doesn't seem to be obfuscated to me.
Originally posted by yeahright
I think (?) the problem may be you're looking for a label and I'm not sure (?) there is one. And I'm also not sure a label would be helpful in this context. But I agree, it would make it "easier", however I'm not sure "easier" is the point.
Labels allow us to bring our own prejudices to the table (aHA! Your a "this" or a "that" and I "know" what that means!) I'm taking her at (cyber) face value and it makes perfect sense to me. If that means from your perspective we're both deluded, so be it. From my perspective, part of the discord results from her rejecting the "Christian" label. But (I think) I understand why. It's semantics, but for her it's significant, and that's good enough for me.
Originally posted by yeahright
Peace and God's blessings on us all. And I mean ALL. Every last wretched unworthy one of us on the planet now, in the past, or in the future.
Originally posted by saint4God
I don't care about the labels. However, she's ready to take a sword to anyone who calls themselves Christian. If that isn't prejudicial, I don't know what is.
Originally posted by yeahright
I'm just not seeing it. But it wouldn't be the first time I was oblivious. Communication is a two-way street. There's the message sent, and the message received (and interpreted) and admittedly sometimes there's a disconnect between the two. But I really, honestly, sincerely, haven't seen anything I'd classify as an (take a sword) attack on a Christian or anyone else from her.
Originally posted by queenannie38
On the contrary, you're saying it was about all of us and you still continue to do so. Like dropping a nuclear bomb and saying, "nothing personal guys". Guess what, casualties are still involve en masse.
Well, then, good...keeps me from having to sharpen my sword so often.
Originally posted by yeahright
Some disagreement, yes. But then if we all agreed, there's be a bunch of megadittohead comments and that would be the end of discussion. I don't see any danger of that anytime soon. :smile:
Originally posted by saint4God
Originally posted by queenannie38
Well, then, good...keeps me from having to sharpen my sword so often.
Originally posted by yeahright
But she included the little smile icon, which you left out. That represents a "tongue in cheek" response, to me anyway.
Originally posted by saint4God
I do have a right to feel and express the basis for those feelings.
Originally posted by queenannie38
You talk about it. It's not an issue with me...
Already have.
Not judging, questioning your rationale. That is, your thinking. Or, your feeling.
Why don't I have the right to question?
Which talks about unity in God, not a marriage of Taoism and Christianity, for example
Originally posted by queenannie38
Unity. Peace. Freedom of religion, even!
Under God, not unity for unity's sake, peace for peace's sake.
Revelation talks not about all the world's religions uniting according their own beliefs.
It takes two to tango and I didn't write a nasty e-mail calling people a bunch of names. I want to find out where you're getting this "separation from believers" but "unity for everone else" frame of thinking.
I'll take that as a "no answer" then. Though, as I said, it would answer a lot.
*salute*
Glad I don't have to suffer literal persecution under your "rule".
So much for "co-exist", peace, unity and those other things coming out of the other side of your mouth.
You can't, nor they.
Originally posted by Saint4GodNot while you insist on tearing down believers by thinking you have a superior understanding of the Word of God.
Originally posted by queenannie38
I never said I had a 'superior' anything.
I'll let the posts stand on their own.
Glad we could agree here. I didn't say you had emotion behind them, just that they were prejudice whether you think it has "reasonable" backing or not.
UNITY. I'm not 'advertising' it. It's not for sale.
Side-step.
Oh yes queen, it is about you. Look at the focal point of conversation. Read through the responses people have for you.
It is entirely relevant (especially here). You're promoting a belief system and I'm curious to find out what it is.
Isaiah 45:1-25
~1 Thus saith the LORD to His anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him, and to loose the loins of kings; to open the doors before him, and that the gates may not be shut:
~2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight; I will break in pieces the doors of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron;
~3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I am the LORD, who call thee by thy name, even the God of Israel.
~4 For the sake of Jacob My servant, and Israel Mine elect, I have called thee by thy name, I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known Me.
~5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, beside Me there is no God; I have girded thee, though thou hast not known Me;
~6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside Me; I am the LORD; and there is none else;
~7 I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.
~8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness; let the earth open, that they may bring forth salvation, and let her cause righteousness to spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
~9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker, as a potsherd with the potsherds of the earth! Shall the clay say to him that fashioned it: 'What makest thou?' Or: 'Thy work, it hath no hands'?
~10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father: 'Wherefore begettest thou?' Or to a woman: 'Wherefore travailest thou?'
~11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker: Ask Me of the things that are to come; concerning My sons, and concerning the work of My hands, command ye Me.
~12 I, even I, have made the earth, and created man upon it; I, even My hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
~13 I have roused him up in victory, and I make level all his ways; he shall build My city, and he shall let Mine exiles go free, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.
~14 Thus saith the LORD: The labour of Egypt, and the merchandise of Ethiopia, and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine; they shall go after thee, in chains they shall come over; and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee: Surely God is in thee, and there is none else, there is no other God.
~15 Verily Thou art a God that hidest Thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.
~16 They shall be ashamed, yea, confounded, all of them; they shall go in confusion together that are makers of idols.
~17 O Israel, that art saved by the LORD with an everlasting salvation; ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
~18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens, He is God; that formed the earth and made it, He established it, He created it not a waste, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD, and there is none else.
~19 I have not spoken in secret, in a place of the land of darkness; I said not unto the seed of Jacob: 'Seek ye Me in vain'; I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
~20 Assemble yourselves and come, draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations; they have no knowledge that carry the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.
~21 Declare ye, and bring them near, yea, let them take counsel together: Who hath announced this from ancient time, and declared it of old? Have not I the LORD? And there is no God else beside Me, a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside Me.
~22 Look unto Me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else.
~23 By Myself have I sworn, the word is gone forth from My mouth in righteousness, and shall not come back, that unto Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
~24 Only in the LORD, shall one say of Me, is victory and strength; even to Him shall men come in confusion, all they that were incensed against Him.
~25 In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.