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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Well, no. But it seems to be the same police car that drove across the camera at the beginning. Watch it. Watch the car appear on the left, after the explosion (at 2:29 on this video) and drive along in front of the pentagon, then out into the lawn. I'm 90% sure it's a car or a van... And it's between us and the crash site (judging by the shadow of the smoke). So that means it would be closer than the 'plane'.
But no, we can't tell exactly how big it is.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Well Benevolent, if the car is "closer than the plane" to the camera do you think you can surmise the size of the aircraft or the vehicle that is seen there by trying to compare each other?
BTW, the cameras take pictures every half second, or every second, did the car suddenly appear there from where it was first seen?
There ware plenty of people who claim it was a small plane, eye witness are totally unreliable. The government has the only evidnece yet they refuse to release it and prove their case.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Ah...I see, so i guess the people who saw the airplane flying directly to the Pentagon were all working for the government...
The only BS that can be seen in this thread is that those people who like yourself don't want to believe the evidence which has been shown time and again are in denial and you will only accept a lie that the government was behind it and it was not a passenger craft....
Originally posted by Flyer
There ware plenty of people who claim it was a small plane, eye witness are totally unreliable. The government has the only evidnece yet they refuse to release it and prove their case.
hmmmmm, I wonder why.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
It was a plane and they had no reason to tell me otherwise.
For me, the more important question is who was controlling the flight.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Riiight... WEll perhaps the request by people like yourself for the government to release all videos from all cameras that point to the Pentagon could be the reason why they are not releasing those videos...
I mean, is not like the Pentagon is not that important right?....
It is not like such videos could be used to plan another attack on the Pentagon...
I wonder why the people who believe all the nonsense that it was not a plane cannot think nor comprehend why "all the videos from cameras at the Pentagon" can't be given to the public because then the information is out for anyone including those that would use that information to make other attacks...
Humm.... you people claim yourselves to be pretty smart....then use your brains and think...
Originally posted by Muaddib
Just to make it simpler to those people who don't seem to understand why the govenrment won't release all or most of the videos of those cameras which "are still videotaping the Pentagon".... Go to your nearest Walmart, ask to speak with the store Manager and go ahead and ask him to give you all, or any, of the videotapes they use for security, and don't forget to mention to him that "you are going to post all those videos for all the world to see".... Then after doing that come back here and tell us his response...then go ahead and proclaim "there must be a conspiracy because the Manager didn't want to release the videos from a simple Walmart store"..... And you are claiming that because all the videos from the PENTAGON are not made public, it must be a conspiracy.....
Thats my theory too, this is a smokescreen and they will bring out the proper footage later and say, look, we were right and all the conspiracy idiots are wrong.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
I can only speculate that flight 77 was under remote control and that this was accomplished
using flight simulation techniques from a remote location.
I doubt we will ever know what happened to the control mechanisms at the crash site.
I do still strongly believe that 911 was a "created event" used to justify military industrial funding.
Originally posted by Flyer
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how about the ones at the petrol station or the one at the hotel, its a public space and explain to me how those videos will help future attacks?.
Originally posted by Flyer
How about the camera pointing directly at the plane from the roof of the pentagon, it would show the whole thing, explain to me how that would help more attacks when it shows the same area as the released videos, except for the fact that it would show what hit.
The national security card is pure bollocks only used when government apologists have nothing more to go on.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
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I can only speculate that flight 77 was under remote control and that this was accomplished
using flight simulation techniques from a remote location.
I doubt we will ever know what happened to the control mechanisms at the crash site.
I do still strongly believe that 911 was a "created event" used to justify military industrial funding.
What a shame. Maybe one day you'll start denying ignorance. I can understand what it's like though. There was a time in my life when I believed everything I read on the internet, and believed things for the sole reason that they were anti-establishment. Of course, then I encountered the real world and grew up.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
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I can only speculate that flight 77 was under remote control and that this was accomplished
using flight simulation techniques from a remote location.
I doubt we will ever know what happened to the control mechanisms at the crash site.
I do still strongly believe that 911 was a "created event" used to justify military industrial funding.
Yeah...ok, and the proof for all your claims is?..... a hunch?.... because there are other people who will rather believe the fantasies and lies which those who want to claim, "there was no plane and the government was behind it", say so too?...