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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm sorry, but I don't trust that Agent Smith's opinion of the perspective is correct.
The 'plane' in the actual incident came in from a much different angle than this picture protrays so it's hard for me to buy that theory.
As it approached the Pentagon, the plane would have appeared to 'grow' in size if we could see the real thing, so I believe that picture is just very misleading.
In fact, I'm leaning toward the Global Hawk-painted-with-the-right-colors theory...
Originally posted by AgentSmith
Looks a little big for a Global Hawk,
...as well as the damage to the Pentagon being more consistant with a substatially larger object.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
What? How can you tell how big it is? Don't take the time to answer that. I don't believe you can tell how big it is without precise mathmatical calculations.
In my world, this is clear evidence of explosives planted to enhance the damage. The entire roofline (5 stories tall and through all 5 rings, when the 'plane' only went through 3) shows black 'burnt-looking' damage.
STUBBORN ROOF FIRES
Back at the Pentagon on September 12, Captain Defina worked with airport firefighters on extinguishing the stubborn roof fires.
"It was very labor intensive," he said. "The work really beat on you. The roof is layers of slate shingles, sheet metal, wood, wood supports and concrete. You can only imagine what it took to get into that."
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
The majority of damage [burnt areas] that is seen on the roofs occured after the initial impact.
Originally posted by AgentSmith
Better than that you can get the dimensions from Boeing website here:
www.boeing.com...
It's wingspan is 124' 10".
So the wingspan will be about 0.625 x the length of one of the 200' divisions.
Originally posted by shots
Sure takes all the guess work out of what it would look like in real life. While those drawings of the 757s were OK none of the pictures ever took into the account of scaling the pentagon.
Originally posted by AgentSmith
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm sorry, but I don't trust that Agent Smith's opinion of the perspective is correct.
That's because it isn't my opinion of the perspective, see my post above.
The 'plane' in the actual incident came in from a much different angle than this picture protrays so it's hard for me to buy that theory.
As it approached the Pentagon, the plane would have appeared to 'grow' in size if we could see the real thing, so I believe that picture is just very misleading.
It's not misleading in pointing out the gross exaggeration of the @truthseeker' GIF, see my post above. I completely agree with you on the perspective, hence this other image I put together in another thread, once again (and I'll try and make it clear so there is no misunderstanding).
This is not meant to be completely accurate, it is not the Gospel according to AgentSmith and it is an estimation of the coverage by the camera and the distance covered by the aircraft.
In fact, I'm leaning toward the Global Hawk-painted-with-the-right-colors theory...
Looks a little big for a Global Hawk, as well as the damage to the Pentagon being more consistant with a substatially larger object.
Originally posted by Valhall
Originally posted by shots
Sure takes all the guess work out of what it would look like in real life. While those drawings of the 757s were OK none of the pictures ever took into the account of scaling the pentagon.
Wait a minute...did you take into account the bulge of our oblate spheroid?
hmmm...I didn't think so!
Originally posted by Valhall
No...it would be that of a joke.
But the earth has a bulge at the equator also...that was the bulge I was referring to. I think a plane slammed into the Pentagon. I think it was Flight 77. And I think your overlay is very helpful.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Some of these are from other ATS threads and one I found and 'blurred' for effect.
A 'blurred' version of a Global Hawk in flight (The angle is away from us instead of toward us, but use your imagination):
Unblurred original:
What do people make of this?