Amazing UFO footage from Secret KGB UFO Files

Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid

My guess is that it's another F-16, or similar fighter. They were probably there was a group filming something for training of future pilots.

Everyone can see that the craft stays levelled, now lets even consider the possibility of this beiing a jet.Have you ever seen any jet descend that fast while staying levelled?U would at least clearly see the jet pitching its nose a little forward but yet in this vid it stays levelled, i would even say its pitching its front upwards a bit.

To think an f 16 or a fighter from that era could pull that off is a little hard to believe wouldend it?

Perhaps an airforce expert can help out here to shed some light on this subject and prove me wrong about it.For all i know i could be mistaken as i am not really in to aviation.

Originally posted by Blaine91555

I don't know how familiar you are with the state of CG and animation, but wait until you see what coming up in the next 10 years. You will no longer be able to tell if the person you are seeing is real or an animated 3D model.
(...)

...that's what the change over to HighDefinition visuals on TV are for,
to get the masses collective brains used to that visual palate ->>
& all the while inserting convincing CGIs into the mix to produce the
story desired.

imho, the film sequence was a training film maneuvor that was enhanced-or-fabricated upon, by some military specialists within the signal-corps
for both training experience and to test their abilities with the technology then available...

...an experiment by some individuals (either as a whim or a challenge...or 'just following orders') which was gleefully accepted, to gain experience as a future sci-fi film expert...

if one searches deep enough, it might be that this clip might just be in someone's "Portfolio", & the author/technishon can verbally explain the tricks & methods used to create the 'UFO' sequence... will most likely get the job or position & launch their visual-imagry career (maybe at Pix-El no less)

bitte'

Originally posted by Blaine91555
You will no longer be able to tell if the person you are seeing is real or an animated 3D model.

Oh, I know it will get better. And that the average Joe Blow has more computing power in his basement than NASA used to put guys on the Moon. The quality of the image isn't the sticking point, but rather all the corroborating evidence. An image by itself carries a little bit of weight, but not much. A piece of metal from a crashed ship, maybe a little more. Multiple eyewitnesses are a big plus, particularly if they include experts or trained observers. Dead aliens are good, when verified by real scientists. Live aliens, even better.

Now, put them all together and you've got something I can believe in. Like you, I'd like nothing more than for it all to be proven real and true. But I have very high standards of proof, because I'd prefer not to look like a gullible fool.

Some people, you show them a grainy video of a few seagulls and they'll swear it's Reptilians from beyond the Moon. I don't understand that kind of thinking, but churches make a lot of money from that same tendency toward acceptance with little or no proof. So there must be a lot of people out there who do that.

-- "Wow! A blurry photo of a mylar balloon! Conclusive proof of aliens!"

Originally posted by Battlefresh
It does look fake to me also. Here's what seems to be off:

- First thing is the motion at which the object falls. If you were to throw a frisbee it would have the same motion. It would hang for a moment, even climb a bit, then it would start to descent and it's rate of dropping would increase. This looked exactly like a frisbee superimposed.

How can you not understand if this is an actual UFO why would if conform to our laws of physics ?. I could never understand why people continue to draw comparison with a alien science they have no clue on ?. Its like me saying "nah man that video of bigfoot IS SOOO FAKE, he walk more like this..." get my point ?

LOL...

You guys (and girls?) crack me up.

Yes, if a real video/picture was shown on this site then it's impossible to prove its authenticity unless you see it with your own eyes...

...and that's the thing

I've personally seen three "anomolies" that weren't planes, helicopters, swamp gas or whatever so I know these things exist (whether made made or not, I'm not sure).

For those people who haven't witnessed one with their own two eyes and who are somewhat skeptic, the only time they can say "yes, they exist" is when the govt (or whoever) comes out and says "yes, they exist" and "they are human" or "they are alien"...and oh, here is one live on CNN etc

I also too was a skeptic...until I saw what I saw.

Cheers

J

I cant open that movie somebody has an other link or somthing?
I really want to see thatmovie

Peace out ! 1337

I downloaded the file from the original link and then uploaded it to youtube.com

Here is the link to see the vid

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by jumpspace

Yes, if a real video/picture was shown on this site then it's impossible to prove its authenticity unless you see it with your own eyes...
...and that's the thing

[...]
I also too was a skeptic...until I saw what I saw.

Oh, seeing something with my own eyes is no proof of anything. My own perceptions are lousy. I've been to enough magic shows to know that seeing is still a long way from believing.

I envy you if you've seen something extraordinary and obvious and undeniable. I never have.

to the wannabe-experts: please state that your sayings are a opinion and not a fact or shut up at all(would be better than take uneducated guesses).

where is jritzmann if you need him, his opinion i do respect.

and this sure is one of the more interresting vids, fake or not. one to add to my collection and my collection is very small!

Originally posted by hoeon
to the wannabe-experts: please state that your sayings are a opinion and not a fact or shut up at all(would be better than take uneducated guesses).

If we did that, there would only be two or three posts on this entire forum.

Originally posted by onbekend59
To think an f 16 or a fighter from that era could pull that off is a little hard to believe wouldend it?

Perhaps an airforce expert can help out here to shed some light on this subject and prove me wrong about it.For all i know i could be mistaken as i am not really in to aviation.

Well I've been a pilot for a few years now, and have had several family members and close family friends involved with the aviation parts of all the Armed Forces branches. So, does that count for experience at all?

Anyway... Yes, I do think that it could do that. It's well in the distance, though when watching the video at 2X size in Windows Media Player, if you look closely you can see the pitch of the craft changes slightly. Not much, but then again, it wouldn't take much to cause a dive like that.

Men the video looks dawm real to me !

Or is it already being proofed that its fake?

It maybe that the TV in the corner of your room is for
entertainment value only. News is rarely current, I work
in the media and I can tell you it's all about filling in time,
filling in boxes in newspapers and leaving the reader/viewer
with a hook to read or watch further.

I love the idea that Roger Moore, wrapped against the
supposedly Russian weather, wraps his plum-rounded
tones around the words of wonder.

Strange banged-up craft, Egyptian tombs with dry icy,
T.V is a great toy, but don't believe any of it.

well leet it does look like the majority of the people on this thread seem to think this is a fake. My first impression was that it was a plane, perhaps another F-16. According to some members the object dissapears to early as it enters the clounds which suggests its been added to the footage. so yeh its been pretty much agreed its a fake

Enkidu:

Yes, some say I'm lucky seeing these "things", however it's just more frustrating!

If you haven't seen anything, it can be easy to say "I don't believe", however when you've seen something it's frustrating that:

a) You can never convince anyone who dis-believes
b) You know these craft exist and wonder who the feck are using them

The first "group" of objects (about three or four, can't remember) I saw where very high up in the sky when I was looking at the stars laying on my back - they came from all directions and joined as one and then prob. a few seconds later all went off in random directions from the join point. The size of them was equivalent to a satellite when you see one.

The second one was a very fast object travelling from east to west very high up in the sky. It went from one side of the hirizon to the other size in about 20 seconds off...all I remember is that it was FAST.

The thirs one was when I was with a mate and we were talking about stars and looking at them. Out of nowhere, an orange "orb" appeared, moved from left to right and visa-versa a few times then pi$$ed off very fast.

...and you know what? If I had a video camera and caught these things and published the video here, I'm sure people would also say "fake".

Regarding this video, I believe it's real - however I only think that because I know they exist

Cheers

J

Originally posted by jumpspace
If you haven't seen anything, it can be easy to say "I don't believe", however when you've seen something it's frustrating that:
a) You can never convince anyone who dis-believes
b) You know these craft exist and wonder who the feck are using them

I can imagine that would be difficult. Like in that Jodie Foster movie "Contact," where she experienced something but couldn't prove any of it.

Regarding this video, I believe it's real - however I only think that because I know they exist

Yeah, I can see where you might tend to be more accepting of this thing if you've had an experience of your own. But you do know there are hoaxers out there, playing around with video editing equipment. Not every little clip is real, regardless how real your experiences were. That's the important thing I guess, just to keep you from going off the deep end.

Well, maybe the most important thing is not to give all your money away or drink any Kool-Aid mixed up by some cult leader who promises to fly you up to a UFO.

Oke TheBman im not really good in looking its fake or not..

I'll go washthe dishes .. Peace guys !

the footage in question aired on the channel ten TV station in austalia NSW last tuesday, it was part of a documentry that was dealing with the interactions with UFO in the world arena to an extent, i believe that on that same 2 hr long show there was more evidence that was irrefutable than that which you just became subject to, it could be part of the Project Public Disclosure program or it could just be a 'coming to of the senses" a ' testing the waters scenario' either way the the tungunsta forest footage and klov.... something footage of a down and recovered disk would proove to be more conclusive
I wonder how robert moore is around now. lol

Originally posted by Jeddyhi

Lets say for the sake of argument that the video in this thread is indeed authentic. Beyond a shadow of a doubt it is a flying disk that drops into the clouds. With that said, look how many people in this thread refuse to believe it.

I don't follow your logic.. It seems you're proposing a hypothetical situation in which the video is authentic, then you say that some UFO researchers still wouldn't believe in the video judging, by the negative reaction of posters in the thread?

If you could somehow prove the video is authentic... ACTUALLY PROVE IT...then we would have to agree, right? At least most of us.

How are the reactions of posters in this thread, in which the video is not proven to be real or fake, telling you anything about the reactions if the video were somehow proven to be real "beyond a shadow of a doubt"?

There are many videos and photographs out there in the real
world that purport to show flying craft that could be from other
planets, other dimensions, other times or manufactured right
here on Earth, but because no hard evidence has ever sufaced,
the majority of folk have reservations.

The world has always had con-artists, people who fabricate images
to create false hope for people who yearn for a better lway of life
and I can only guess this will continue.
The only suggestion I can come up with is... doubt, doubt and doubt
again, if there are such things as aliens, demons and New World
Order types bent on changing the natural existence of man, then
we'll see it along with all the rest of the people.