What Color is Allah to Muslims?

a reply to: ChesterJohn

To hate lies, false ways (teaching, practices, et al), sin and sinners (i.e. those who hate God or transgress his ways, laws, truths), hatred of false assemblies (like Ramadan, Catholics mass and communion service, the UN) is a Bible truth, so you are not of the truth and there is not truth in you only lies.

No its your interpretation of bible truth,

when I read the religious texts I find the underlying message to be unity and love not hate like you interpret.

Its that hate that has so many suffering and you keep acting on your belief to hate to keep the suffering going.

May god praise you and all the help you do to keep that suffering going.

Look, you may think you know I am not of truth or made of candy and ride unicorns on the weekends,

All that does is reflects who you are, you are projecting and need to constantly post bible passages to find others that confirm to your belief because its so fragile.

The truth doesn't need to be repeated over and over, only lies do so they might stick.

What is most likely the most quoted thing on ATS?

Or

what do you keep repeating over and over?

Are those that label themselves as Christians really that fragile in their beliefs they need to constantly repeat them?

Are so many Christian's that do this really that unable to form their own thoughts they need to use bible quotes as responses?

I would rather be a hater of men and their false religions and ways, than be a hater of God and his ways.

Yes I know you you need to hate.


I would rather people let go of the hate they have, but as seen by the religious that you are great example of, they find words in holy texts that they can interpret to justify their hate.

Just because a person refutes Islam or any other religion does not make him a hater.

Yes this is quite true and false at eh same time, however why even say this?

Religions cannot be refuted as beliefs are only that, beliefs.

Faith cannot be refuted only ones claims of faith can by their actions and depends on the situation at hand.

No one said that refuting Islam or any other religion is hating, maybe its the hate you have inside that is conflicting you.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

The Preserved of God, whole and complete, inerrant word of God as found in the AVKJ Bible is Truth, and in our Bible found the the book of Revelation says, the UN, all religions, the Vatican State and Islamic State will be completely destroyed and replaced with a supernatural government prophesied in the Old Testament.

When that day true peace will be on earth.

a reply to: TerryDon79

so you have been told Christian is a derogatory term and you still use it. Hypocrisy is found in abundance among those who have no argument.

Moslem is still used to day, not as a derogatory but as a term referring to followers of Mohammad.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Oh but you are far more a believer in God and Jesus than you are an Atheist

See what I mean? ANOTHER lie.
It’s like you can’t help yourself and HAVE to lie all the time. You even made a thread that you ADMITTED was a lie.
LOL

So are you saying you don"t say G-d damn it or them, that you don't cry out Jesus Christ when you bang you thumb or stub your toe? if you say no I know you are lying more than you can prove I am lying. Because people like you use it all the time just as much as using the short term for fornication, as we saw in one of your posts that was removed for manners violation.

Again it is the kettle calling the pot black.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

so you have been told Christian is a derogatory term and you still use it. Hypocrisy is found in abundance among those who have no argument.

Christian has never and isn’t a derogatory term. If it is, show me the dictionary devotion, otherwise you’re just lying, again.

Moslem is still used to day, not as a derogatory but as a term referring to followers of Mohammad.

It is a derogatory word. Just like the n word. Your excuses to keep using it just means you’re a hateful person. Typical Christian really.

a reply to: TerryDon79

I study the Book, I read the book, I share the book, and I worship the God of the book and my saviour Jesus Christ.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

So are you saying you don"t say G-d damn it or them, that you don't cry out Jesus Christ when you bang you thumb or stub your toe?

Nope. I don’t say g hyphen d damn. That just sounds stupid. And I don’t say Jesus Christ.

Let me guess. You think when someone tells you to F off you should actually go have sex? Or go screw yourself, you should insert something into your body?

You’re a joke.

if you say no I know you are lying more than you can prove I am lying.

Your own words and threads show you lie. It’s for EVERYONE to see.

Because people like you use it all the time

People like me? You mean white male? British? 30 something? What?

just as much as using the short term for fornication, as we saw in one of your posts that was removed for manners violation

That’s another lie. I have never had a manners violation for swearing. Nice try though.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: TerryDon79

I study the Book, I read the book, I share the book, and I worship the God of the book and my saviour Jesus Christ.

You forgot “worship the book”.

AKA

Idolatry.

a reply to: TerryDon79

I tell you what if I can show you that the term Christian was by many believed to be used as a derogatory term, will you go away?

1) And it is used in derogatory because I have had it used that way while street preaching. This form personal testimony as late as 2012.

2) Kenneth Samuel Wuest holds that all three original New Testament verses' usages reflect a derisive element in the term Christian to refer to followers of Christ who did not acknowledge the emperor of Rome. The city of Antioch, where someone gave them the name Christians, had a reputation for coming up with such nicknames stackexchange

de·ri·sive - dəˈrīsiv/adjective
adjective: derisive

expressing contempt or ridicule. Google dictionary

the law of two witnesses establish a fact.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

I tell you what if I can show you that the term Christian was by many believed to be used as a derogatory term,

Needs to be a reputable source.

will you go away?

Nope. Open forum. That means your bigotry and hate can and will get called out by me and others who see it.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Ok stay, but be forewarned stop attacking the MESSENGER/POSTER.

Do your best to hold back your fulmination and put together a well organized thought instead of you bantering and slandering.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Kenneth Samuel Wuest

You’re quoting a person you don’t even believe his version of the bible, yet he’s somehow correct on your one thing?

Like I said, I need a REPUTABLE source.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: TerryDon79

Ok stay, but be forewarned stop attacking the MESSENGER/POSTER.

Do your best to hold back your fulmination and put together a well organized thought instead of you bantering and slandering.

Says the guy who openly hates and lies about a religion, made violent threats towards members of this board and pretends to be a Christian.

You moan and moan about poor you, but there is no poor you. You’re just a hateful person and your posts on this thread (and others) prove it.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Wait wait wait... Did he really say that Ramadan is a false assembly?! LOL Sorry, I've been ignoring his posts but I just saw it quoted in your post.

For anyone who wants to know the truth, Ramadan isn't an "assembly" at all. It's a month. Ramadan is literally the 9th month of the Islamic calendar. We fast from dawn to dusk during the month of Ramadan as a religious tenet. And ironically, today is the 20th day of the month of Ramadan, which means that it's the 20th day of our fasting period.

Dude claims he's read the Qur'an 3 times, yet I'm about to post something that's found in the 2nd Surah/Surat of the Qur'an. Not the 50th or 70th one, but the 2nd one lol. From 2:183-185 (Pickthall translation):

183. O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed for you, even as it was prescribed for those before you, that ye may ward off (evil);

184. (Fast) a certain number of days; and (for) him who is sick among you, or on a journey, (the same) number of other days; and for those who can afford it there is a ransom: the feeding of a man in need - but whoso doeth good of his own accord, it is better for him: and that ye fast is better for you if ye did but know -

185. The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Qur'an, a guidance for mankind, and clear proofs of the guidance, and the Criterion (of right and wrong). And whosoever of you is present, let him fast the month, and whosoever of you is sick or on a journey, (let him fast the same) number of other days. Allah desireth for you ease; He desireth not hardship for you; and (He desireth) that ye should complete the period, and that ye should magnify Allah for having guided you, and that peradventure ye may be thankful.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: InhaleExhale

The Preserved of God, whole and complete, inerrant word of God as found in the AVKJ Bible is Truth, and in our Bible found the the book of Revelation says, the UN, all religions, the Vatican State and Islamic State will be completely destroyed and replaced with a supernatural government prophesied in the Old Testament.

When that day true peace will be on earth.

well then its clear you haven't read that bible you keep quoting and that you my point about your faith are spot on.

or are you interpreting whats said in Revelations?

I thought there were no interpretations needed?

I am actually going to ask for quotes and maybe links to these passages mentioning, well actually predicting these organizations and groups will exist 1000s of years after it is written.

if you say no I know you are lying more than you can prove I am lying.

You want proof of your lies,

so you have been told Christian is a derogatory term and you still use it.

Is this a lie?

or just a your opinion that Christian is a derogatory term?

I thought it was name for a male, then the name of followers of Christianity.

So the term "true Christian" that you use more so than I can count on my hands is even more derogatory or is that a complement?

I study the Book, I read the book, I share the book, and I worship the God of the book and my saviour Jesus Christ.

So it should be easy to show where in Revelations the United Nations organization and all the other things you listed are mentioned.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Wait wait wait... Did he really say that Ramadan is a false assembly?!

Look I really don't know, Its like the twilight zone when I read some posts, Christian is a derogatory term?

a reply to: enlightenedservant

I don’t think I could do the Ramadan thing. One reason. Coffee.

A friend of mine said you’re allowed to drink it, but only if it’s black, no sugar? I can drink white coffee with no sugar or black coffee with with sugar, but not just plain black coffee.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

I have read this Bible and study it for over 15 years, and read number of other versions for over the last 25 years.

No I am not interpretation, the AVKJ Bible is already interpreted, I am presenting it Literally, and if it can't be taken as a literal prophecy it is meaningless, because it has no other meaning and left to be spiritualized it can have a differnt views from as many different groups that USE a Bible to manipulate others (nicolaitan doctrine), or by the Catholics to claim they are the Kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven already, as they have for the last 1700 years.

Just read and believe (I will bolden the text, the great Whore is the Catholic church ran by the Pope it is today represented in their ecumenical movement to bring all religions together. and the throne is the throne found throughout the Bible this is a literal view of this.)

Rev 19:1 ¶ And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
5 ¶ And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. (the same throne as in the first Chapter of the book of Revelation, and found in Ezk chapter One and Ten)
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. ("her" are the martyred Children of Israel, standing clean intheir good works i.e. self righteousness).
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 ¶ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. (John literally see this and it is of the last days at the end of the Great Tribulation, when Christ returns, a literal view of the word of God as found in these verses)
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. ( oh look there is it Jesus Christ as seen in John 1-2, 14; i John 5:7, literal comparing scripture with scripture reveals the truth LITERALLY) .
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; ( this is the godhead, which consist of the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost)
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. (the kings of the earth, are the UN and Presidents as well as the kings of Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, and in other parts of the word where Islam claims as part of their Religious State known as the Islamic State over many nations. Just like the Catholics claim as part of their Religious State known as the Vatican State, Nations they claim are part of their State.)
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. (the Beast is the AI tech Idol the world worshiped and made them take the mark of the Beast)
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

You see I didn't interpret anything, I just know my Bible so well that I can see this truth. Those like me hold to Jesus Christ divinity and his second coming (which this is it in Revelation 19), Which is a pre-millennialist reign of Christ after his return (read the next Chapter, and Zech 14). The sword is the word as found in Ephesian 6:17, so no need to reinterpret anything in this whole chapter when it can be taken literally.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

This bit....

the great Whore is the Catholic church ran by the Pope it is today represented in their ecumenical movement to bring all religions together

...would be an INTERPRETATION of what your book says.

How about just stopping with the blatant lies?

a reply to: ChesterJohn

BTW

What colour do you think Allah is?