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What Color is Allah to Muslims?

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posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn
What an odd written style, doesn't seem to be your own. Did YOU actually ask a "Moslem" (did you make sure to specify to them the spelling you were using in your head)? Or is your post quoted from somewhere (the book you keep pushing, perhaps)?

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
I asked a Moslem, what is the name of your god? They answered Allah. Which in Arabic means "the god".

Nope. "the god" in arabic would be al-ilah/al-ilaha". Allah, likely a contraction, represents "The God". The One True God. The same root as Hebrew, Aramaic and other semitic languages.
So the rest of your argument, including putting your own words and conveniently knock-downable arguments followed by a "Surprise! Caught you out" is a red herring.


originally posted by: ChesterJohn
In any language, that is stupidity and ignorance of their own language.

You know what I find to be stupidity and ignorance? The idea that there's a short sequence of phonemes or scratches on a surface can exclusively somehow even begin to encompass the identity of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Creator.

What does the Quran say about God's name?

Translation of Surah Al A'raf, verse 180:
To God belong the most beautiful names: so call on Him by them, and shun those who distort them: they shall be requited for what they did.

There are 99 specific names (or attributes) that God is called by in the Quran, stuff ranging from The Most Merciful (Ar-Rahim), to Al-Haseeb (The Bringer of Judgement), from Al-Wadud (The Loving), to Al-Mumit (The Bringer of Death), and so on.

Why would God have a colour? That would imply that a deity is within the confines and control of its own creation, rather than the other way around.
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posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: GreatTech

We'll never know. To my knowledge, no Muslim has ever returned from Muslim Heaven to tell us what color Allah is.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

No Christian, Pagan, or any other person has been verified to have returned from death either. Unless you count the innumerable people revived after minutes of death



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

So basically you feel like insulting other faiths again. Do you really want to have the nonsense of your own faith laid bare? Its fair game if you want to play that game



posted on May, 31 2018 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

well go to your own thread on neo-pagan druidism.

You say your religion is the best of all and that mine is not. So you make you self god and decide for you and men which religion is best. While claiming not to have a superior god, you have in fact put yourself as the supreme being in your own personal polytheism, where you are the supreme Authority.

I put the Lord God Almighty as the final Authority and His word as the final Authority for life and practice for true Christianity. As far as resurrection just because no one supposedly has not risen from the dead, does not mean Jesus Christ, the fulness of the godhead bodily, has not risen from the dead.

You have been playing the game of bashing my religion from the beginning of all your post replies to my posts, so now you claim it is fair game. There is truly something wrong with your memory. You seem to have forgotten that through the whole course of any of our communications, you have shown yourself to be the real religious bashing bigot, however it is only against Christianity. All the while claiming to be the most open mined person towards all religions, except of course for Christianity or my view of monotheism. You accept Islam and yet they are Monotheist but you never meant them when you wrote this did you.

We believe that monolithic religious organizations and would-be messiahs and supergurus are a hinderance to spiritual growth.
Your own words show your bias and your religious bigotry.

See you make your self god over the rest of us with your bias and religious bigotry, and kettle calls the pot black. . . . ye shall be as god, . . . Gen3:5c



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posted on May, 31 2018 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

LOL It's funny that you're complaining about someone bashing your religion in this thread when you outright admitted that your purpose in this thread is to bash Islam (this post).

The OP of this thread specifically asked Muslims what color we think Allah is and then made a strange Adam/Eve/Original Sin reference. I and others have answered the OP's concerns, yet you took this as yet another opportunity to bash Islam on topics that have nothing to do with the OP.

You hypocrite! You whined about Noinden, saying "Your own words show your bias and your religious bigotry", yet you openly said:


I don't accept Islam and it is my desire that no more people be led astray by the lie of Mohammad, and his followers

and


So no, I do not accept any other Religion or Bible version. My hope is I can help some poor soul from going down the same trail I went down but only end up in Hell for all eternity.
when referring to Islam.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Well why don't you call the other poster out of their comments about my religious beliefs stated just a few posts above in the thread.

I mean at least be fair and balanced the other poster changed the topic and derailed it by making a charge about my religious beliefs in this forum as have others. Yet you have not called any of them out on it.

So you are just as much a hypocrite as the other poster is



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Nah, you directly stated you were here to bash Islam. In fact, your first post in this thread was you trash talking Allah, completely ignoring the OP and its questions to Muslims (HERE). Then you went on to say that you had been instructed to stop derailing the thread (in this post), yet clearly that hasn't stopped you from doing so.

By the way, what color is Allah to Muslims? And will you ever man up and admit that you were wrong when you claimed that Muslims are supposed to put the Prophet Muhammad as Allah's equal?



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

No I did not say I was here to BASH Islam , Go back and read. Are you that defunct in reading plain English.

I said I do not accept Islam. Not accepting them and bashing them are two entirely different things.

Just Like Jehovah is not Allah. I already asked that of many Moslems and they told me directly that Jehovah is not their God their God's name is Allah,

There was mention that Allah was called by many names but a title like "all loving", it is not a Name.

So you can say all you want I only shown the Truth and a Moslem can LIE out right to anyone who is not a Moslem. They can and are supposedly not allowed to lie to each other, and when they do, they claim the other Moslem is not a true Moslem.

In Christianity we don't lie to anyone, believer or not. As much as it lay with us we will live peaceably with all men. But that doesn't mean I wont point out the Hypocrites and lies of ALL false religions and their gods, that is what True Christians do.

Green, that is the Color of Allah. Many white people have Green tint to their skin.

No I have and copied the verse here again why do you keep denying the truth, Mohammad claimed to be Allah's messenger. Moslem's claim that Mohammad is Allah's messenger so when he says that to obey the messenger is to obey Allah, as recorded in Sura4:80, he makes himself equal to Allah in the Moslem's obedience

Sura 4:80 Whosoever obeys the Messenger (Mohammad), he indeed obeys Allah. And whoever turns away, we have not sent thee as a keeper over them.
That is the plain and simple English Translation of the Arabic Koran, side by side and do you know what the last part of the Koranic verse means. It means whoever does not obey the messenger and turns away from obeying him, in taking the Moslem faith, that person who told them about Allah is not his keeper. In short if you bring me the words of the Koran, and I reject it and its messenger, that person is not there to protect me but to kill me and no other Moslem is to stop him from doing such.

Sure doesn't sound like the Jehovah in the Bible. You see the Old Testament Bible doesn't teach Jews to convert people to their religion. Not one place did Jehovah tell Israel to convert the surrounding nations or kill them. But then he changes when old epileptic, pedophile Mohammad came around. I thro not. Allah is not Jehovah, nor did he have any son, he had three daughters.

Jehovah said he is no respecter of men, he will have mercy on whom he will have mercy and wrath on who he will have wrath.

My wrath was bore on the person of Jesus Christ, the fulness of the godhead bodily, he bore the wrath, the penalty of my sin unto death upon the cross and die as a ransom for me. Rose again for death could not hold him on the third day. Whosoever believe on him hath eternal life whosoever does not is condemned already because they do not believe on him. No threat of death if I don't convert but the penalty of my sin, the wrath of God at the Judgement will be on me. But Jesus came to save us from the wrath to come. I have no reason to fear death because to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.


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posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 02:30 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Blah blah blah. People have already explained this to you over and over, yet you made your intentions quite clear days ago. You've proven to be wrong so many times that your words regarding Islam have no credibility whatsoever. Yet you then turn around and have the audacity to whine when people give you a dose of your own medicine.

ETA: And it's odd that you, a person who claims to have read the Qur'an 3 times, keeps quoting the 80th Ayat from the 4th Surah. Yet you apparently overlooked Ayat 48 of the same Surah, which says the following:

48. Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin.

Picthall translation
Like I said before, you have no credibility when it comes to your long, inaccurate rants against Islam. You don't even know the basics yet continue to lie about them.

And for anyone else reading this, here's a good link with the 99 names of Allah (HERE) with context and a note for where each name is found. I'm done wasting my time with the other dude, so at least putting this here will inject something good into this conversation. And as you'll see with #20 on the list, the name "Al-'Alim" translates into "The All-Knowing One", "The Knowledgeable", "The One nothing is absent from His knowledge", etc. It basically just means "The One with all Knowledge", which makes sense for an omniscient deity.
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posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 05:04 AM
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Allah is white.




posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 05:20 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn


In Christianity we don't lie to anyone, believer or not


You remember your thread about a firearm bill soon to be passed, where you lied AND admitted it when you got called out?

Or what about those times you said I was an xtian?



posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 05:27 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

He's lied throughout this very thread, too. He acts like people can't just read the thread, post by post, and see how often he's been called out for his misinformation, disinformation, and flat out BS. And when he's called out on something, he just doubles down on it instead of manning up and admitting that he was wrong. He doesn't even get the basics right yet complains when people call him out on it and/or give him a taste of his own medicine.



posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 05:40 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Naaaaaah.

He must know what he’s talking about. He’s read the Quran 3 whole times.




posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Your game of so call modern rendition of Islam and its Koran is nothing but a shell game, to make Islam look so Nobel and peaceful. mix and match and confuse. Confusion is of the devil, Go find an ISIS stronghold and try and pitch that Islam to them and see how long it takes to lop off your head.



posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

What about the lovely Christian group the KKK?

Or pogroms.

Or the Orange Volunteers.

Or gods army.

Or the Russian Orthodox Army.

Or the Lords Resistance Army.

Or the anti-abortion terrorism by christians in America.

Christianity. The religion of and for hypocrites.
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posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

hypocrites! Look who is talking the kettle calling the pot black again.

You have the wrong facts attributed to the wrong people. All those groups are Catholics in any country they were and are, and they are not True Christianity. Church history makes them Christian because they are in bed with the Vatican State over the issue of their being no preserved word of God today. Thereby leaving it in the hands of men to interpret for them.

All of the Moslem faith is just like that, it is Islamic State. They say no one can learn from the Koran unless a man teaches them the original language and those interpretations vary from one group to the other. They read it but the teachers have the final authority over what it says.

The different Koran meanings is just as confused as the plethora of modern Bible versions are confusing.

You would do well to re-read the AKJV Bible and not some Catholic version at least 7 times through and study true church history, I linked to it above I think.


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posted on Jun, 2 2018 @ 12:47 PM
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I’m not reading your fairy tale of a hating, vengeful, jealous god. It’s a book to make people scared of your gods wrath.

So, these Christians I’ve listed, aren’t real Christians? You mean like the Muslims you’ve cherry picked?

But please continue to say Christians don’t lie. Please! It just shows more people you’re not really a Christian.



posted on Jun, 3 2018 @ 12:33 AM
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Islam and Christianity are as equally opposed to one another as Yahweh and Allah are...
For the mental midgets who are atheists believers in fairy sprites norse gods or muslims....
Christian's do not worship the same God as muslims...
The opposition is rather clear Christians believe Yeshua is God...
For Muslims to worship the same God as Christians they would have to believe Yeshua is God...



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posted on Jun, 3 2018 @ 01:10 AM
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The Man who was before the beginning of any other thing who was and is God he who spoke all things into existence is Yeshua the Christian God...
Do Muslims believe Yeshua is Allah?



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