My Near Death Experience and Ascent to Heaven

Originally posted by Shoktek
I'm also glad to hear that you are OK after your problems...did they have any idea what would have caused the health issues like that?

Thank you friend. I wouldn’t trade this experience for all the money in the world. I’m so thankful and feel so blessed that this happened to me and that I am able to share it with you.

Well the Valley Fever came first, then the Pneumonia that ultimately caused the third stage Empyema. I’m not sure if it was the Valley Fever that lead to the Pneumonia that lead to Empyema but it wouldn’t be unusual if it happened that way.

Originally posted by Shoktek
I agree with the teachings of Jesus, and hopefully can find Him in my life, if he truly is to be found...

He want’s nothing more than to be part of your life, maybe he already is. I stood in God’s light and you wouldn’t believe how much he loves and accepts his children.

Originally posted by Shoktek
one thing that kind of freaks me out about heaven is the "eternal life". To me, it seems like living for all eternity would be terrible...certainly there has to be an "end" to bring peace.

I don’t know what would have happened to me had I told God that I wanted to stay in heaven. I get the feeling that I didn’t have a body though I felt like myself. Guess we really aren’t our physical bodies and are truly spiritual beings.

When I was looking over the walls of heaven bathed in God’s light I didn’t see anyone, just the pillars. I’m not sure if people would have appeared if I chose to stay or if I would have simply become one with the light.

Originally posted by Shoktek
Did you have any sense of "time" during this experience, and how did you feel about it?

I only thought about time once. When I was repeating “Help me Jesus” and found myself floating upward in total peace, love and warmth I remember thinking how did I get here and how long had I been in this “space”. It was a fleeting moment that dissolved in the light.

I remember realizing that what I was saying (Help me Jesus) was the reason I was floating upward with no pain and in complete peace. I thought to myself “oh my gosh” I’ve got to keep saying “Help me Jesus” because I never want this feeling to go away…then I felt bad for attempting to use God’s love that way. I felt kinda guilty that I would try to use the power of Jesus’ name so that I could feel “good”. Again all these thoughts dissolved in the light being replaced with truth, love, peace and understanding.

Anyway back to your question, I had no concept or feeling of time. As far as I know this entire experience could have happened in the blink of an eye or over 1000 years.

kinglizard, i think you missed my question.

were you pronounced clinically dead? and for how long before you were revived?

Sorry I missed your question friend.

They, to my knowledge, never pronounced me dead.

Before the chest tube procedure, knowing that it was going to be unbearably painful, I was scared to death. I started to repeat “Help me Jesus” over and over. At some point during the procedure my lungs failed and I stopped breathing. This is when I was taken by God and given a choice to stay with him or return. Obviously after I stopped breathing they rushed to get me on a ventilator so it could breathe for me...14 days the machine kept me alive...

I'm not sure you have any idea of the power of the spirit that is testifying of the truth that is spoken in this thread. It is very strong. I have seldom felt it as strong, and never imagined such a thing would happen on an internet site about conspiracies. I truly believe the spirit led me here. I have had a few similar experiences of my own, though the details are far more vague for me, but I'll post them in a new thread.

Originally posted by Isaac Tanner Madsen
I have had a few similar experiences of my own, though the details are far more vague for me, but I'll post them in a new thread.

Why not here? It's on topic and would be easier for us to find than the ole hunt and peck technique of thread searching.

As requested, my first experience (of three that have happened so far):

This is just going to be a summary because I don't want to take over this thread. If you want the whole thing, visit this thread.

When I was about three years old, I was taught of the existence of Jesus and Satan. I learned to talk with Christ. One day, I was praying, and he actually responded. He told me I would be tested by Satan.

Moments later, I found myself in a terrible nonphysical darkness. In this darkness, Satan came to me and asked that I follow him. I told him I would never do so, that I am a follower of Christ. He grew enraged, and tried to overpower me, but I called on the name of Christ.

I soon found myself in Christ's presence again. I told him I didn't want to return, but he convinced me that it would be safe and beneficial for me to return. Obviously, I chose to do so.

I died recently.
I dont have the words to describe everything, but I will do my best. I feel so amazing today. Totally invigorated.
I realise a lot of people, might question my sanity as I do, or have done since this happened. Some people say I 'manifested it' . This is something that you cant manifest.
The Holy Spirit told me I was going to die. The HS told me how and why.
Since, I the HS told me I was going to die in my sleep, I have been having a hard time getting to sleep. I felt very weary. I was lying in my bed and looked at my alarm clock, it was 1.00 am and I was thinking, will I ever fall asleep? So I prayed and asked GOD to help me sleep. I am lying there when my entire body started to shake, almost convulse, the shaking was very strong. My my teeth were chattering. I was shaking internally, every part of me was shaking. I started to panic, fear started to kick in and I asked HS, hey, what was happening... the HS said, I had to experience this and my body was going into shock. I thought, &^%$ I am going now? But, I am awake! The HS spirit said listen to the voice and go to the light. The moment I focused on the light, the shaking stopped. As I was lying there in the light, I could see step by step my body shutting down.

My heart actually stopped but I wasnt in my body, I was in this space above me in the light. My heart was thump, thump, THUMP and then nothing. I was looking over my body and my head felt like it was burning, and when I looked at my head, it was open and my soul, bright white was going up this light tube. Obviously now, I know my crown chakra was completely opened and I was out of my body. I saw a door with streams of white light, it was ajar, I saw an Angel, huge wings with something in its hand, like a big book. I saw a huge tree with someone standing underneath it waiting to walk towards me. The tree was magnificent, HUGE. I asked what was it? HS said it was the tree of life. The whole time this was happening, HS said Son of GOD was holding me. At times I felt scared cos I thought I might get lost? The HS's voice was so loud now, because I now realised my spirit was with GOD. I said, quite pissed off, 'I cant see you, where are you, why cant I see you? Then HS laughed and said, look above your head. I did and I saw me sitting with the Son of GOD. He was stroking my face, reassuring me and just smiling. I felt this incredible love, serenity.

I then realised, how important this experience was. I was completely consciously experiencing death. I faced it, overcome my fears and went to the light. I felt very peaceful, as I said, I dont have the words to describe this and I probably am not doing it justice. The HS said, it wasnt time to go and I went back to my body. I opened my eyes and was totally 'high'. I became conscious of my body and started to move. I got up and made a cup of tea. I sat down and looked at the clock, it was 3.30am. I was there for a long time and yet it felt like 5 minutes. I am sitting here today, feeling in awe of what I experienced. How fortunate. When I asked the HS why? The HS said it was preparation. I had consciously experienced and overcame death.

I now know what to look forward to. The irony is that I dont have any problems sleeping now... I went straight to sleep after...

I just wonder, Kinglizard, you were given the choice to stay or go and yet I didnt get that. How do you cope 'here' now? Being here... I probably sound rather pathetic, but I am truly gutted that I am back. Why would I experience that to have to leave it? I know its there for me oneday but I feel such a loss.\

Oh my god, i been going through a hard time believing its been ruff my head has been full with nonsense of me going to hell and burning and my soul being took away from me.i ask god yesterday to show me the light and help me regain my faith and ease of mind. so i had enough of my head bothering me with the whole soul thing, so i googled why believe in god? after going to vairus links i came upon this after i read your story it clicked to me God answered. i now have more faith then ever its like your story was amazing thank you for that story!

Originally posted by NarutoChristmas
Oh my god, i been going through a hard time believing its been ruff my head has been full with nonsense of me going to hell and burning and my soul being took away from me.i ask god yesterday to show me the light and help me regain my faith and ease of mind. so i had enough of my head bothering me with the whole soul thing, so i googled why believe in god? after going to vairus links i came upon this after i read your story it clicked to me God answered. i now have more faith then ever its like your story was amazing thank you for that story!

Thank you so much for creating a membership here and telling me how this touched your life. I feel truly blessed by hearing your story. I have no doubt that part of the reason I was allowed to return was to share my NDE as accurately as possible with everyone that will listen....so you are part of the reason I returned and I am so pleased to meet you my friend and brother in Christ.

Please have no doubts in God...he lives...he is with you, and he is waiting for your return.

You can't imagine the love he has for you.

Blessings...and thank you so very much.

i wont to give you allot of thanks for sharing your story its touched my life so much.

Interesting event similar to many I have read in my researches. Have you integrated in changes in your personality or mental abilities in your life yet?
Talking about it helps but fully accepting it is the key to a more stable life. How is you interest in learning Many NDE really want to start learning a lot. May you be blessed with Christ love and spirit with you in all you do.
Jubal 55 and Anam Cara ministries.

interesting read, thanks for sharing.

may i ask 3 questions kinglizard?

i don't want to know your life story, but what kind of person are you? i'm sure your a great person, but:-

1) but have you done some bad things in your life?, even law breaking?

2) were you a religious person before this incident?

3) could you (even the slighest possiblity) imagened this?, when people are due to passing out pain goes and illunations can start (definatly with morphine), but sometimes even without...so i'm just wondering.

anyway sorry about the 3rd sceptical question, thanks for the posting your experience and merry christmas.

[edit on 18-12-2006 by st3ve_o]

why is this thread sticky-d?

does the interpretation of an event that happened to a certain individual by said individual actually help us understand the general discussion of faith, spirituality, and theology?

does the interpretation

This isn't an interpretation, it is a witnessing. A testimony is an account of events, not discussion about meaning. Interpretation would be what you or I would do if we tried to discern what Kinglizard's testimony means on a larger scale, or if anything seen was symbolic what those symbols mean. Your use of "interpretation" here is a linguistic device used to imply that Kinglizard's witnessing was subjective and metaphoric, which is contradictory to both the definition of testimony and his account.

of an event that happened to a certain individual by said individual actually help us understand the general discussion of faith, spirituality, and theology?

Yes. Even if you or I were to interpret Kinglizard's witnessing account, that too would help us understand the general discussion of faith, spirituality, and theology.

[edit on 17-1-2007 by saint4God]

kinglizard,

Have you ever considered the possibility that your experience was induced by your subconscious and has no true divine origin? That in fact your mind produced this hallucination based on your own subconscious desires in order to relieve your body of stress so that it would increase your chances of survival?

This experience sounds very “picture perfect” and entirely based on human perception. Why would there be Gold in heaven, or walls for that matter?

Best wishes,
VladTheImpaler

Here's a near-death-experience a person had on '___':

Then I saw a light and everything stopped. It was as if the light communicated to me everything I had done wrong and it showed me what love is. It showed me that God is love. By spreading love, you make God stronger. By making God stronger, he can, in return, help you. He told me your love has to be unconditional. That is the only rule he really has. And it is one thing all religions have in common. He also told me that the drugs I was doing was like a false love. I was doing it so I wouldn't have to interact with people. I could inject my own love into my veins and be happy. But that is not good enough. I don't know. It was an odd experience.
www.near-death.com...

Science explains that your near death experience wasn't spiritual at all. Instead, it was just a hallucination.

Read through the user-submitted trip stories on www.erowid.org... and you'll find that these hallucinations are a dime-a-dozen.


In fact, we can chemically recreate near-death-experiences and other so-called "spiritual" experiences. In this case, you'd just need to take '___' and you might experience the same hallucination all over again.

There were no souls or anything supernatural or spiritual involved; it was all chemicals reacting in your brain that changed your perception of reality.

I don't mean for this post to insult you in any way, but I really am interested in reading your response.

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[edit on 2/16/07 by RedDragon]

I have no doubt '___' can produce all sorts of hallucinations.

Originally posted by kinglizard
I have no doubt '___' can produce all sorts of hallucinations.

Would you agree then that when you had what I call a hallucination and what you call a spiritual experience that you were heavily drugged on pain killers, muscle relaxers, and natural chemicals that your brain was creating in response to the trauma?

[edit on 2/16/07 by RedDragon]

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I wasn't on drugs....only a bit of numbing around the spot in my side where they were going to shove the tube into my lungs.

Originally posted by kinglizard
I wasn't on drugs....only a bit of numbing around the spot in my side where they were going to shove the tube into my lungs.

I'm going to quote from your original post.

They can only numb you so far as they can’t numb your entire chest so the first few inches would be ok but the rest of the way to my lung would be unbelievably painful.

Your body also creates natural pain killers in response to intense pain like you were experiencing.

So, you were under the influence of prescription (whatever they used to numb you) and natural pain killers, and whatever other flurry of chemicals your body naturally creates when it's in such an extreme situation.

It's no wonder that with how naturally and unnaturally drugged up you were that you were experiencing drug-like hallucinations.