Atlantis and its inhabitants the original White Race?

Originally posted by NeoQuest
This assumes that there was an aryan 'race' to begin with, I've heard that there have been indian scholars who have spoken against such a concept. Plus as Seekerof states I've heard that the atlanteans were todays Native Americans.

Not that long aggo, there was expeditions in the northwest were they dug up a skull that was quite large with bright deep red hair. And the american indians (one of them) do have stories of these people. I think it was hopi, or cherokee?

You might be thinking of kennewick man, but that was a skull, no hair. Its said to have features that more closely resemble europeans than asians or native americans.

In asia, I don't recall if it was in china or thereabouts, they find mummified corpses (not like egyptian mummies though) that have red hair. And this is said to hint at a different population having been in the region before 'orientals'.

You might be mixing these two ideas together.

Unless there was a different discovery that I am unaware of in the US.

Originally posted by Nygdan
The problem is that the north indians are genetically related to other central asians, not europeans.

Are you sure? I was pretty sure that the Aryans migrated from the region of the Caucasus Mountains throughout Asia, Europe, and the Middle East. Thereby leaveing their genes all over the place.

You might be juxtaposing Atlantis (as a super advanced civilization) and the Ram Empire (a super advance civilization in india who's final war is recorded in the vedas and ramayana, where the gods are men with super weapons).

Actually, I was taking about the Asvans. Again, I'm not sure bout this. From what I've found asvan is Sanskrit for horse.

Originally posted by Nygdan
The problem is that the north indians are genetically related to other central asians, not europeans.

Actually thats incorrect, europeans are descended from a group called proto-indo-europeans(PIE) and this can be traced linguistically. They discovered this because of similiarities in european languages and ancient sanskrit so in a very weird way we are related to those from the indus valley. The term "Aryan" was a term that was supposed to describe the Indo-european, which can be interpretted as those living in persia(yeah, I never would of guessed we were related) and the ones that moved north of persia into europe.

There are a couple theories about this, 1. they came to persia as an occuping force, from what we can tell that wasnt the case.


However, Hitler used these old theories and put forth that europeans were the purest indo-european or aryan.

Originally posted by XphilesPhan
europeans are descended from a group called proto-indo-europeans(PIE) and this can be traced linguistically

Correct, in so far as the spread of the languages. However, the spread of the populations and the relatedness of the peoples, discovered through genetics, was a different path. Europeans speak an indo-european language, but aren't, necessarily, descended from the group of people that initially spoke proto-indo-european.
Consider england. Everyone speaks english. Including black immigrants from west africa. Same language, different genetics. ALso consider that english spread into africa, or that spanish iand portugeuse are spoken amoung non iberian populations throughout all of south america

I was pretty sure that the Aryans migrated from the region of the Caucasus Mountains throughout Asia, Europe, and the Middle East. Thereby leaveing their genes all over the place.

The original homeland of hte tribe that spoke proto-indo-european isn't known, some specualte that it was the caucus, others that it was a bit north of that, others that it was in central asia, etc. Their language spread, certainly, how much their persons spread is another question.

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Actually in reviewing some information, it looks like there is some research that supports a closer relationship with europeans, implying the spread of a population from the center to both regions. BUT, there are still other studies that contradict this strongly.

This wiki entry is actually a really good summation of the different papers that have been published.
en.wikipedia.org...

But also note that it is basing some of its infomration on their having been a "Kurgan Culture" in central asia, kurgans being burial mounds. This kurgan hypothesis is also on somewhat shaky grounds.

Also notice:

South Asia is logically the ultimate origin of M17 and his ancestors; and sure enough we find highest rates and greatest diversity of the M17 line in Pakistan, India, and eastern Iran, and low rates in the Caucasus. M17 is not only more diverse in South Asia than in Central Asia but diversity characterizes its presence in isolated tribal groups in the south, thus undermining any theory of M17 as a marker of a 'male Aryan Invasion of India'"

very cool....so there are higher concentrations of caucasian genetic material among cetain groups of asians.

I knew for instance of the Tocharians in china and the aino I think they are called from japan that had caucasian features. Also a trait common to mongolians and caucasians are green eyes.

I was unaware of a "kurgan theory" that name sounds fmiliar, I think it was from highlander. not sure.

I have heard that cuacasian originated in the steppes of russia. or somewhere in that general area.
kinda cool.

Also, I have tried to research atlantis and I have had very little luck since there are only two references adn both by the same author(plato). I have been unable to find a single reference or even anything similiar other than the aztec homeland of aztlan, which the word kinda resembled atlantis.

In all the caveman movies, blonds are naturally regarded as the smarter, and the blond cave women are always hotter, as in this photographic evidence from the documentary, "One Million, B.C.":



I think that proves beyond any doubt the obvious mental and physical superiority of the White Race. But for any other doubters and skeptics, please refer to the documentary "Village of the Damned," in which white children have continued to evolve - possibly with the help of alien intervention - to super intellectual superiority:



These are just a couple of examples where people with whiter skin, blonder hair, and lighter (glowing) eyes are proven to be several steps higher on the evolutionary scale than any other kind of people.

Lets not forget the extremely advanced intellect of the following white heroes:



and,




Clearly advanced beyond our comprehension.

Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Also, I have tried to research atlantis and I have had very little luck since there are only two references adn both by the same author(plato).

THere is actually a pre-plato reference to atlantis, but it is very sketchy. Hellanicus wrote a work called "Atlantis", of which only a scrap survives. Supposedly the scrap is uniformative, and its the title alone that is provacative. I have not been able to find a representation of the text though.

The highly-advanced white Aryan race with its superior intelligence will rule the world.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Thankyou for ignoring all the points I brought up and not bothering to explain some of your odd statements.

Your welcome.

Originally posted by riley

Originally posted by pRoPhEcY
There are human beings and those human beings are Black and there are no other human beings.

So now whites are not even human beings? :shk:
It's hard to consider you as being 'super-sensitive' when you are incapable of even realising skin colour is literally only skin deep.

Reeeaaach riley reeeeaaach.

The first people are Black People.

No other types.

The reason it is impotant to stress this, is because of the "wild,noxious, murderous raping Black Beast" theory, which is still quite prevalent.

Now do me a Great Big Favor and tell me how I'm wrong.

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Lets not forget the extremely advanced intellect of the following white heroes:

Clearly advanced beyond our comprehension.

fictional characters but here are some real ones

and this surely denotes intelligence:



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Not too mention ethiopians wash in urine.....



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pRoPhEcY,
You still failed to explain your statements about whites not being human. Put your complex into the context of reailty. You are superior to no-one.. claiming you are based on something as irrelevent and trivial as skin colour just makes you sound like a hick racist.


We cannot establish what race the atlantians were.. yet somehow this thread has denograted to poking fun at caucasions, tribal customs and the handicapped? So much for denying ignorance and becoming more enlightened.

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If you read the sanskrit writings of atalntis, called atala or "white island" it gives an estimate of the latitude and longitude which corresponds near the canary islands. which ruins on the ocean floor with strange symbols have been found nearby. This seems to correspond where I believe at least a part of atlantis remains.

would be nice if more was known of the ancient inhabitants, the guanchas I believe were remains of atlantis.

I cant believe such an important civilization just disappeared.


I believe it was the atlanteans who were the pyramid building civilization that influences egyptian and south america. possibly outposts?

Originally posted by XphilesPhan

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Lets not forget the extremely advanced intellect of the following white heroes:

Clearly advanced beyond our comprehension.

fictional characters but here are some real ones

and this surely denotes intelligence:

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Not too mention ethiopians wash in urine.....

Xphiles, was this meant in jest as my pictures of Forest Gump and Slingblade were? I may have missed the sarcasm.

Originally posted by riley
pRoPhEcY,
You still failed to explain your statements about whites not being human.

Yes, because I never said any such thing.

Yer weerd riley.

Here is a purdy pikcher;




Can any of the white people top this photograph, in terms of depravity?

Come see the dead negro!!!!!

Bring the kkkids! Fun for the whole family!

rasobasi420

Ha haaaaa!!

Is that you, in your avatar??

That is soooooo tickling!!

Go raso! go raso! Go go, go raso!

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