all drugs are bad i tell you

i felt i should warn any people considering taking up drugs, dont matter what your friends said... every drug in the world is bad, yes even weed. if drugs were harmless, they would be legal, and used by the masses. but they are illegal, for a reason too...

even caffein should be avoided... if you drink more than 2 cups a day, you increase your risk of osteoporosis by 82 percent. osteoporosis:abnormal loss of bony tissue resulting in fragile porous bones. i think thats reason enough for caffein.

something to think about if your gonna smoke weed:
What are the short-term effects of Marijuana use?
The short-term effects of marijuana use include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch); difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate, anxiety, and panic attacks.

What are the long-term effects of Marijuana use?
People who smoke marijuana often have the same respiratory problems as cigarette smokers. These individuals may have daily cough and phlegm, symptoms of chronic bronchitis, and more frequent chest colds. They are also at greater risk of getting lung infections like pneumonia. Marijuana contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals found in cigarette smoke.

if you need more proof all drugs are bad heres a link
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hopefully this information prevents a few humans from becoming pot heads.
if you think im wrong i challenge you to proove to me that its ok to use drugs... good luck with that. if you already knew they were bad, i salute you!

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
every drug in the world is bad.

So you have never used any kind of medicine? The word drug is a very broad term, and it covers more then the obvious.

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
if drugs were harmless, they would be legal, and used by the masses. but they are illegal, for a reason too...

Well, besides cigarettes and alcohol being legal, there are prescription drugs. The 4th largest killer in the United States is adverse reactions to prescription drugs. Legal drug overdoses kill more then street drugs. All too often drugs get pulled off the market for causing more problems then they solve.

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
hopefully this information prevents a few humans from becoming pot heads.

This is like pretending the surgeon generals warning prevents people from buying cigarettes or that the dont drink and drive commercials stop drinking and driving. In the end people will do what they want to do.

Also, for those of you who think badly of people who smoke pot or drink, there is a difference between users and abusers whether you acknowledge it or not.

No offence but thats REALLY stupid.


Ok lets do open heart surgery with no drugs Sounds very nice and pleasent.

Oh I know! I'll stop taking my thyroxine tablets that I'm prescibed! Then my metabolism goes to ZERO and I get constipated. Sounds like a VERY good thing to do?

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Originally posted by High Ryder

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
every drug in the world is bad.

So you have never used any kind of medicine?

even medicines and antibiotics also have side effects that could be deadly for some people. name me one medicine you think doesnt have a side effect and ill proove to you it does. if a medicine has a host of side effects i wouldnt take it even if i needed it. id bite the bullet.

kk, Oroxine and/or Thyroxine Sodium, prove me that lmao!?






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Originally posted by JimmyCarterIsSmarter

kk, Oroxine and/or Thyroxine Sodium, prove me that lmao!?

thyroxine tablets are given to replace the thyroxine that would normally be produced naturally by the thyroid gland. This returns levels of T3 and T4 to normal.
Once the thyroid gland becomes unable to produce thyroxine, it will generally NOT RETURN TO NORMAL FUNCTION. This means that once thyroxine replacement is started, it usually needs to be taken for the rest of a person’s life.

chances are, your thyroid gland doesnt work anymore and you will have to take those pills every day of your life... sorry friend.


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thyroxine tablets are given to replace the thyroxine that would normally be produced naturally by the thyroid gland. This returns levels of T3 and T4 to normal.
Once the thyroid gland becomes unable to produce thyroxine, it will generally NOT RETURN TO NORMAL FUNCTION. This means that once thyroxine replacement is started, it usually needs to be taken for the rest of a person’s life.

chances are, your thyroid gland doesnt work anymore and you will have to take those pills every day of your life... sorry friend.

Mine was already like that at birth; so its good. And its prescription only, so if you didn't need it in the first place. You shouldn't be taking it.

I do beleive MOST drugs are bad, especially if misused; so please don't beleive I'm trying to discredit you.

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Originally posted by JimmyCarterIsSmarterMine was already like that at birth; so its good. And its prescription only, so if you didn't need it in the first place.

thats a whole different ball game eh

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I think people should have the right to put into their bodies what they please. As long as it isn't causing them to harm others, what is the big deal? People on the other hand who can't act responsibly should be held accountable though!
I once knew a gal who chose to only ingest "Twinkies". I tell you...she was an ADDICT! She would run over old ladies in the grocery aisle to get to the last box on the shelves, throw Twinkie wrappers out of her car window on the way home, and write "hot" checks to go do it again at another store. One day, the cops caught her and she was charged with assault (old lady ran over), littering (wrappers thrown out the window), and check fraud.

Now by all rights, should I conclude that because Twinkies were causing her to get fat and weren't "healthy" for her, they should be outlawed? Or should I conclude that the actions (wrong in themselves) she took because of her addiction should hold HER accountable and be ENOUGH to hold her accountable? Had she JUST chosen to act responsibly and NOT commited "warranted" acts of mis-deeds, nobody would have been harmed by her "addiction". Maybe, just maybe, had the government outlawed Twinkies, or at least made her wait until she was 21, this entire nightmare scenario may never had happened. But who is to say the same could be said for "Cheez-Its"!!!!

Have you, worksoftplayhard, recently experienced some sort of loss due to drugs? I ask as this type of rant is indicative of just that - outburst of angst towards the object directly related to the loss.

Call me George I guess, heh

even medicines and antibiotics also have side effects that could be deadly for some people.

Between having the side effect of the meds one takes, or the illness those meds keep at bay - most will take side effects any day ! That's usually the way it is however, if the side effects were worse than the illness, the med would be irrelevant.

But then, unless your Oroxine/Thyroxine post was a copy/paste, you already know this true of most patients.

As for illicit drug usage ...... the drug doesn't spur the harm - the abuse of the user does.

NN

How about the side effects of those french fries that taste so good. What about food abuse, people die from obesity related illness every day. NoNik is spot on: it's not the drugs that cause harm, it's the abuse.

To quote Bill Hicks, "You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favour. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years ... rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal f'ing high on drugs. The Beatles were so f'ing high they let Ringo sing a few songs."

I'm not promoting drugs, I'm promoting making up your own mind.

Marijuana isn't all bad as many make it out to be... It is generally smoking that makes it so unhealthy.

It's hard to distinguish which long-term and short-term effects are caused by cannibinoids or by smoke. Most research I've seen for long term effects of cannabis are done with just that, long term users. The quality of weed has changed over the years as well as more efficent methods of extraction.. which brings us to the vaporizer.

THC, the psychoactive ingredient that gets you "high," vaporizes (becomes a gas) at ~360F (200C). When you burn it, you are exceeding 1000F. Studies by NORML have shown that vaporizers drastically reduce toxins in comparison to combusted marijuana (smoked).

Here's a snippet from the article:

The analysis showed that the Volcano® vapor was remarkably clean, consisting 95% of THC with traces of cannabinol (CBN), another cannabinoid. The remaining 5% consisted of small amounts of three other components: one suspected cannabinoid relative, one suspected PAH, and caryophyllene, a fragrant oil in cannabis and other plants. In contrast over 111 different components appeared in the gas of the combusted smoke, including a half dozen known PAHs. Non-cannabinoids accounted for as much as 88% of the total gas content of the smoke.

As for the real negative effects of THC on your system I think the same for any controlled substance applies, if you choose to use it, you should do so in moderation. Daily smokers can become dependant on it, mentally and physically if not given sufficent break time to clean the system.

*snip* , not abuse it!

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Warning: Life is extremely dangerous to your health. If you are considering living, be aware of the dangers. If you walk outside, do not breathe, do not walk. Pollution is extremely hazerdous to your health, as are passing cars.

Warning! By living, you are putting your life at risk!

It's a dangerous world eh

Luckily, as adults, many of us can make decisions and live with the consequences without affecting others. Of course, that often changes with a drink or two inside us....but hey, it's legal, chug away :w:

IMO, drugs like anything else is tolerable when done in moderation. A person can enjoy a night of drinking every once in awhile and not become an alcoholic. Also, a person can enjoy a joint at a party once in awhile and not become a pot head.

In fairness though, I have seen the long term effects of weed abuse. My mom has been a major pot head since she was a pre-teen and now at the age of 45 she definatly has problems with her memory. But again, thats weed abuse, not use in moderation.

FOOD, you know, the stuff we eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks, they are all drugs. At least they are drugs in the sense that they all contain substances that interact with our metabolisms. "Food" can alter our senses and can trigger various reactions as well. Ever get sleepy or sluggish after a big Thanksgiving dinner. Sure, you get sluggish because you probably overate but turkey contains high levels of a substance called tryptophane, a naturally occuring substance that can cause profound sense of relaxation and can even induce sleep.

Everything that we ingest is a drug. Everything we drink is a drug. Everything, except non organic objects will interact with the body when ingested.

To state that all drugs are "bad" is such a simplistic view that all I can say is that, perhaps, reviewing what one regards as a drug needs to take place.
Perhaps a nice cup of tea (caffeine, tannins) might be helpful to sip on while you do your research.

Originally posted by chebob
Warning: Life is extremely dangerous to your health. If you are considering living, be aware of the dangers. If you walk outside, do not breathe, do not walk. Pollution is extremely hazerdous to your health, as are passing cars.

Warning! By living, you are putting your life at risk!

It's a dangerous world eh

Luckily, as adults, many of us can make decisions and live with the consequences without affecting others. Of course, that often changes with a drink or two inside us....but hey, it's legal, chug away :w:

you dont make any sense! im not talking about living life to the fullest by drinking or whatver point your trying to make ima talking about living life with out the use of drugs! so far ive been able to do it anyone else in the crowd as well?

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard


you dont make any sense! im not talking about living life to the fullest by drinking or whatver point your trying to make ima talking about living life with out the use of drugs! so far ive been able to do it anyone else in the crowd as well?

I'm not talking about living life to the fullest either. (?)

I'm talking about your narrow minded view that "Drugs are bad, unless they are "good" drugs, or Drugs that aren't called Drugs". But ignore my post, BH put it much better in the post above yours, so read that instead.

I would say YOU arent making any sense.

Drinking and enjoying life IS bad for your health.

Going out in the sun will give you skin cancer and cause wrinkles, even if you arent suntanning. If you never allow the sun to touch your skin, you will be safe though.

All food as potential bad side effects. Chemicals, fats, ect in food are also bad for you. Even fresh produce is also bad for you. Chemicals, bacteria, ect.

The point is is that EVERYTHING has negative side effects if taken in excess. Drugs are not any worse than any other substance when used in moderation. If you want to live you life without any sort of legal or illegal drug, thats fine. Most people dont, and have no problems with living.

Life without any sort of risk is just pointless.

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
you dont make any sense! im not talking about living life to the fullest by drinking or whatver point your trying to make ima talking about living life with out the use of drugs! so far ive been able to do it anyone else in the crowd as well?

Good for you... I congratulate you. But, you aren't seriously suggesting that everyone should be like you right?

I disagree wholeheartedly with the premise behind this thread.

Drugs are extremely useful, whether they are employed in prolonging, maintaining, improving, or enriching human life.

I would like, in fact, to posit an opposite viewpoint: drugs are good.