Many Masons are quite simply in the dark.

a reply to: KawRider9

Qualifications Exams. Although they're small matter.

Pay: The trip to the above.... wherein found is the harem above. Horny.

They're fed distortions, so they end up serving the will of dark stars. And they need to free themselves from their massive body of knowledge and ask questions of their souls, Love and Guidance, within them, in nature. I don't think masons are evil, but some are. Higher Levels are complete tools for predators.

a reply to: Unity_99

In your opinion which degree does a mason have to go through before they are told the truth and name some of these high level evil masons? Do you really think that an organization who lies to their members until they reach a certain degree would be successful?

a reply to: Unity_99
What first hand knowledge do you have of any of this?

Some Masons Are Quite Simply In The Dark... Only Until They Become 33° Masters.
Yay Pinocchio..

a reply to: Pinocchio
What about the York Rite?

I would actually agree to this, most of the Masons ive met are idealists. I hate the part tho when they found out what i am, and try to milk me on ínfo, so it looks good to their fellow brothers. I just recommend a book or two, and they have a tendency to get pissed of when i say, feed the poor, give blood and celebrate the equinoxes. I am not obliged to talk to a mason about their traditions!

a reply to: Edelweiss Pirate

Funny how every Freemason thread you wrote got next to no flags...

a reply to: Temudjin
So you're a Mason?

a reply to: KSigMason

No, that would be like a Jew becoming a nazi

a reply to: Temudjin
So you're not a Mason trying to pretend to be an expert on Freemasonry?

a reply to: KSigMason

Traditions of the old are the same when you understand the meaning, if I'm trying to be an expert of freemasonry not really, You act on old ways, yet forget the meaning. You defend a cause, yet forget what it was for.

Seven hundred years is what you see, technocracy is what we see. I'll introduce myself, you remember us as the guardians of the bloodline.

Or we can modernize it, recessive genetics from the north. Follow a path to the navagahra, purest blood, the rightful cross.

Or we can make it mythical they call us werewolves.

We celebrate the equinox in the north.

Don't fear the second eye, shanti is the truth.

a reply to: KSigMason

Does "K.T.C.H." stand for "Knights Teach Children How!"

Yay Pinocchio...

And NO! Only when you reach 33°!

a reply to: Pinocchio
K.T.C.H. = Knights Templar Cross of Honor

I was just browsing topics. I find this to be one of the strangest from beginning to end. The OP starts an interesting topic. The OP is bashed by Masons. Anyone who has anything resembling interest in the OT is bashed by more Masons. I have never seen more Masons on one website in one forum at one time, at least I don't think so. The Masons demand proof or poo poo any conjecture, yet offer no proof that they really know these things, nor can anyone know that all who say they are Masons actually are.

Perhaps there is no high level cabal of Masons with secrets. But maybe there is. This topic wasn't really allowed to follow the original topic, at all.

a reply to: reldra
EP, the OP, was trying to patronize the Masons. I know him on this and other forums. And not everyone who argued with him was or is a Mason.

Asking for proof is now "bashing"? LOL And last time I checked the burden of proof lies with the one making the accusation...ie the OP. Conjecture is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

Firstly, I don't believe in David Icke's reptilian theory. I also suspect he is spreading misinformation purposely so that anyone discussing the bloodline will be branded as crazy.

What people don't understand about the royal bloodline is that it encompasses ancient and inactive monarchies going all the way back to Solomon and the Mesopotamian Monarchies. It isn't just the ancestors of the European royal families.

Many people are in these bloodlines without realizing it. There is an effort to target those that are unaware to assess them for their potential metaphysical abilities. They will try to break the subject down through harassment if necessary, using the principles of the ancient alchemical process of destruction and rebirth to see if they possess the proverbial Philosophers Stone. It sounded as though the OP was describing such an experience but couldn't quite understand what had happened to him or why, and was explaining the circumstances as best he could.

The real secret isn't that the bloodlines exist. The real secret rather is who is in the bloodline. The ruling elites know their own position from birth. Those in the bloodline who are on the outside - the descendants of illegitimate children, undesirable parents, disgraced families - they are disconnected and unaware, yet they are still monitored and in some circumstances treated as guinea pigs. If they are found to be suitable and have desired attributes they can be brought into the network and enjoy the privileges and connections the rest of the bloodline elites rely on. But it is not an open door.

Additionally, there are branches of the bloodline that are considered prophetic, which is another key point in explaining the secrecy.

Illuminati is just a catch-all word for those elites bonded by the shared ancient bloodlines, and the practice of Illuminism. The real Bavarian Illuminati died a long time ago.

I don't have all the details of how Freemasonry ties into to this system, but I find it odd that the symbol of the Scottish rite is the imperial double eagle which only origins come from European monarchy. Seems antithetical to the Manson credo of equality among brothers, unless of course there is a higher structure that they serve. There are a few other allusions to bloodlines and royalty within Freemasonry as well.



My hunch is that the connection isn't at the blue lodge level but that the interface with the elite power structure occurs in the invitation only groups affiliated with the York and Scottish rites.

The theory being that the whole masonic system acts as a filter where those masons who prove that they are trustworthy, and prove that they can wield influence over others rise to the top where the secrets lie.

To quote Manly P. Hall

Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity -- an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect ... it is necessary to establish the existence of these two separate and yet interdependent orders, the one visible and the other invisible. The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of 'free and accepted' men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most August [defined as 'of majestic dignity, grandeur'] fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcannum arcandrum [defined as 'a secret, a mystery']." [Hall, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, p.

Please note that I am not accusing anyone of anything. There are good and bad people at all levels of society and in all organizations.

originally posted by: DannyTorrance
I find it odd that the symbol of the Scottish rite is the imperial double eagle which only origins come from European monarchy.

The bicephalous eagle goes back to Byzantium which used that to signify the Eastern and Western halves of the Roman Empire which used eagles as a symbols.

My hunch is that the connection isn't at the blue lodge level but that the interface occurs in the invitation only groups affiliated with the York and Scottish rites.

York and Scottish Rite are not invite only.

To quote Manly P. Hall...

Hall wrote that 30 years before he became a Mason.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
The bicephalous eagle goes back to Byzantium which used that to signify the Eastern and Western halves of the Roman Empire which used eagles as a symbols.

Rome is in Europe and the Emperor is a monarch.

York and Scottish Rite are not invite only.

Some groups affiliated with the York and Scottish Rite that are invitation only -

The York Rite Sovereign College of North America
An invitational body dedicated to the assistance and promotion of York Rite Bodies and degree work. The presiding body is a College, and the presiding officer is a Governor (titled Preeminent). The body works one main degree, that of Order of Knight of York, and one honorary degree, that of Order of the Purple Cross of York.


The Order of Knight Masons of the U.S.A.
An invitational body originally sponsored by the Knight Masons of Ireland. It is also known as the "Green Degrees." In England, the parts of the degrees are worked as part of the Order of Allied Masonic Degrees under the title of the Red Cross of Babylon. Membership once required affiliation with the Knights Templar in Ireland, but only with the Royal Arch in the U.S.A. The presiding body is a Council, and the presiding officer is a Chief (titled Excellent).


Knights of the York Cross of Honour (KYCH)
An invitational body composed entirely of York Rite Masonic leaders. Members must be a Past Master of a Symbolic Lodge, a Past High Priest of a Royal Arch Chapter, a Past Master of a Royal and Select Masters Council, and a Past Commander of a Knight Templar Commandery; and nominated by a KYCH. A past Grand presiding officer receives the title of Knight of the York Grand Cross of Honour (KYGCH) if he serves in such a capacity after becoming a KYCH. Membership is unlimited in the presiding body. The presiding body is a Priory, and the presiding officer is a Prior (titled Eminent).

The Commemorative Order of St. Thomas of Acon
An invitational body composed of York Rite Masons selected for their contributions and dedication to the Masonic bodies and orders. Membership requires affiliation with the Knights Templar. The modern Order commemoratives an early body of English Knights Templar founded during the 3rd Crusade. Membership is unlimited in the presiding body. The presiding body is a Chapel, and the presiding officer is a Master (titled Worthy).

The Allied Masonic Degrees (AMD)
An invitational body dedicated to the preservation and exemplification of Masonic side degrees of antiquity. EDITOR's NOTE: In some jurisdictions the AMD Councils are limited to presenting research papers. Membership requires affiliation with the Royal Arch and is limited to 27 members per presiding body. The presiding body is a Council, and the presiding officer is a Sovereign Master (titled Venerable). European AMD Councils open and transact business on the Order of St. Lawrence the Martyr. In addition to the AMD Council, there are two subordinate bodies attached to the Council, which operate as separate bodies outside the United States.

The Order of Holy Royal Arch Knight Templar Priest (HRAKTP)
An invitational body composed of highly dedicated and long serving York Rite Masons. Membership requires affiliation with the Knights Templar, and members must be Past Eminent Commanders of a Knight Templar Commandery. Originally, this body conferred 33 degrees, but now only one is conferred. Membership is limited to 27 members per presiding body. The presiding body is a Tabernacle, and the presiding officer is a Preceptor (titled Eminent).

originally posted by: DannyTorrance

Rome is in Europe and the Emperor is a monarch.

Rome was a Republic prior to the Principate and they used eagles than as well.

Some groups affiliated with the York and Scottish Rite that are invitation only...

And what is transpiring there that is of concern?