2 weeks to war with Iran

Originally posted by Mehran
digitalassasin, i dont answer to people who like to believe in everything from iranfocus. all runned by propoganda and runned by the MKO but you seem to like those things i guess so it doesnt run by surprise.

Are you doubting Iran stones women to death.

Take a look at this:

www.apostatesofislam.com...

www.iran-press-service.com...

Greetings Fellow Believers,

I do no favor a war in Iran. However, it seems that my country has invested into the rebuilding or destruction of the Islamic World.

Perhaps many of the things that occur in the Islamic world I do not support. However, I am an outside observer looking in.

What do the people of these countries being invaded and restructured by my country want? They want to be at peace and left alone.

How is this different than what I want?

to the people that keep on pointing to the stoning of women. come on lets be fair in iran adultry is illegle so if you commit adultry you get executed its no secret everybody knows about it even before they get married. as far as im concerned if you break the law in that country then be prepared to face the punishment. in my country england smoking weed is not something that could get you thrown in jail but in america it can but i dont insult america for throwing people i jail becuase its the law in america. i persoanlly wouldnt go to america and smoke weed becuase it could get me thrown in jail and if i do smoke it and get caught then its "tough #" for me becuase i knew exactly what i was doing. please dont act as if iran is a bad country for killing someone that broke the law that women didnt have to commit adultry yet she did by her own choice and now she faces the punishment. thats "tough #" for her.

lets stay off the stoning women crap..yea yea yea and the Americans treat their blacks like dirt..whatever

I don't think the US is going to attack Iran because their forces in Iraq and their shipping are too vulnerable to Iranian mssiles..war of attrition with Iran, Iran is in a position to win it..

Wait a minute... why are people bringing up legal issues of Iran.

It is there country, so it is there laws. Because I can point out legal issues on America from a Iran point of view. Basically, Iran's laws are on the Islam Shari'ah because it is a Islam Republic, and believe or not but in many other religons it is illegal for pre marriage sex, the differnece is in Iran they enforce it.

Originally posted by iqonx
to the people that keep on pointing to the stoning of women. come on lets be fair in iran adultry is illegle so if you commit adultry you get executed its no secret everybody knows about it even before they get married.

Check your facts, they don't stone women just for commiting adultry. They also stone women for being raped. How Is that right? Also I don't see how you tie weed in to this, I think stoning a woman who has been raped is just alittle different.

Originally posted by leejones
Iran is only months from bomb technology, says Britain

Iran has already admitted to receiving technical documents on nuclear weapon design.

Have no idea how they came up with months, someone fell asleep at the office::
Iran is only months from bomb technology, says Britain -Guardian






Some have concluded that Iran already has nuclear weapons too:
CIA Director Porter Goss: Iran Has Nukes -ATS



Question could be what happens when you pre-emptively strike a nuclear armed nation?

[edit on 12-3-2006 by Regenmacher]

The world wants to move on and evolve. The developed countrys of the west and the emerging superpowers of asia will not have a country such as Iran sitting on 10% of there oil and the bomb at the same time. Combine the oil, nukes, and the leaders being driven by religion that is loosly based on story telling handed down generation to generation...well you get the idea

Originally posted by digitalassassin

Originally posted by iqonx
to the people that keep on pointing to the stoning of women. come on lets be fair in iran adultry is illegle so if you commit adultry you get executed its no secret everybody knows about it even before they get married.

Check your facts, they don't stone women just for commiting adultry. They also stone women for being raped. How Is that right? Also I don't see how you tie weed in to this, I think stoning a woman who has been raped is just alittle different.

well thats what the women say that they where raped ofcourse there going to say it to try and save there asses from getting killed. its just like in america or england or elsewhere where people are caught with drugs in there car and they say they are borrowing the car or its sombody elses drugs to take the blame of themselves. this is upto the courts to decide if a person if guilty or not.

under iranian law a women who is raped is not guilty of illegle sex but is considered and innocent victim of crime. thats the offical policy of the iranian islamic republic. unless you have concrete evidence to prove otherwise your opinion does not match offical irainian law. under there law a women who is raped cannot be punished for it.

I think there is a bit of "missing the point" going on here

This is niether a race or religion row, so wind your necks in from the hands on, and get a grip on the facts.

I am in Britain and I asure you that Blair has made no direct threats of war on Iran (for whatever reasons that you can construct). I am constantly tuned in to the British politics channel and the sky news channels and there hasnt been a hint of the the UK (cant speak for the USA) bringing about any forcefull measures in the East in the next two weeks. (UNLESS SOMEONE CAN PRODUCE A LINK THAT I HAVE MISSED). This seems to me, to be a mindless point to stress over.

I have noted clearly the disagrements in US UK Iran etc. plans, and all here at ATS seem to be jumping the gun a little.

There IS friction, and there WILL be points to be forced but as of yet there is no war, and no war winners.

We should all be hoping for peace and unity at this stage instead of picking apart each others beliefs and cultures.............

When the war starts at least we will have something to watch on TV again, I was getting so bored with TV lately.

I think they will have to use a lot of airports in the middle east in order to strike Iran, anybody have any ideas of likey places to launch an attack? Is there much of an airstrip in Afghanistan now?

Originally posted by denythestatusquo
When the war starts at least we will have something to watch on TV again, I was getting so bored with TV lately.

I think they will have to use a lot of airports in the middle east in order to strike Iran, anybody have any ideas of likey places to launch an attack? Is there much of an airstrip in Afghanistan now?

You need tivo or a dvr from your cable company. By the weekend you will have tons of shows recorded

Originally posted by Regenmacher


Iran has already admitted to receiving technical documents on nuclear weapon design.

Have no idea how they came up with months, someone fell asleep at the office::
Iran is only months from bomb technology, says Britain -Guardian

I agree thats pretty funny " months away" . More like have had it for years. Pakistan's 'father of the bomb' Abdul Qadeer Khan confessesed to selling Libya, Iran and North Korea nuclear technology and plans for many years.

This guys was like a nuclear Walmart anything you want he could get you. Complete nuclear centrifuge No problem. Plans for a reliable missile nuclear warhead not a problem either.

We know this because we also intercepted some of these shipments on the ship the "BBC China" for example which had complete centrifuge and nuclear plans hidden in it .

They guy was arrested in Pakistan confessed to doing this apologized and was pardoned. Hes still a National hero in Pakistan

the pipeline has to go through iran , the contractors need that property available to do so. its just a big game on a grand scale.

I haven't heard of any war plans against Iran and I live in the US. However if Iran wants to end it all and start a nuclear war at some point in the future, it wouldn't take long IMO. I'll just wait quietly and after I hear that Iran has nuked someone, I'll know that the price of oil will skyrocket if the US economy is still using oil based products to drive our vehicles around.

On the other hand, the US doesn't appear to always be driven by logic and reason so anything is possible.

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey

Originally posted by leejones
Iran is only months from bomb technology, says Britain

- This is a really weird one.

It is not that they are saying Iran has the bomb or is about to get a bomb, it is that they might "get the technology needed to make a bomb"; in other words they might find out the 'how to'.

A senior Foreign Office official said that while it could take Iran several years to build a serviceable nuclear weapon, it might gain the technical know how within months.
"By the end of the year is a ... realistic period," said the official. "It would be really damaging to regional security if Iran even acquired the technology to enable it to develop a nuclear weapon."

Until now, European diplomats have referred to a period of five to 10 years during which Iran might potentially build a bomb, while conceding that hard evidence is lacking.
By publicly focusing on the level of Iran's technical capabilities, Britain may have shortened the timeframe for a peaceful resolution of the crisis.

www.guardian.co.uk...

- One might have thought that that is a very broad concept, afterall a decent trawl through the internet would give anyone a good idea of what is needed......

.......and as for what Iranian physics phd's would know about it?

This particular idea seems very very weak and lame to me, one might be forgiven for thinking it's all about deliberately trying to confuse the matter of nuclear technology and actual nuclear bombs, hmmmmm?

Is how to do all that worries you??
Omg what is happening to this world?
May God [Allah swt] bless those who are being held the victims.

denythestatusque asked

I think they will have to use a lot of airports in the middle east in order to strike Iran, anybody have any ideas of likey places to launch an attack? Is there much of an airstrip in Afghanistan now?

Targets have been picked and marked. It will be all by air. Flying out of Diego Garcia island, Iraq and afghanistan. B2 bombers playing a role and also some really good bunker busters that have been modified. It will take no more than two days. Will stand off our Navy to avoid hostile attacks.

Originally posted by bretmania
the pipeline has to go through iran , the contractors need that property available to do so. its just a big game on a grand scale.

I'm glad somebody around here is awake...

Yeah make the international bankers in London richer man, what have I been saying??

The way I see it is this, If Iran had a bomb, they would buy it first, why make your own? Right?

Second if they had a bomb, they would tell nobody until it landed and blew up Isreal. Done deal.

Why would anybody do it any differently?

Besides you and me the poor ignorant slobs of the world got to ask: who makes the money from this? Follow the money you dummy! (not you guy but I like that saying, should make it my siggy..).

Originally posted by Mehran

Originally posted by ShadowXIX

Originally posted by Mehran

during the war even Iranians that were11- 13 years old were still giving iraqs republic guards a hard time.

Ah the infamous "Basiji" sending thousands of unarmed 11-13 years olds in human wave attacks to get mowed down by Iraqi machine guns with not much more then a little plastic key around their necks they are told is the key to paradise.

They were cannon fodder

These are the tactics of the desperate

well it still did work didn't it?. you will never have the guts of what those people did and it makes me angry you disrespecting the fallen soldiers of war. that was 30 years ago and lets talk about now. thousands of basij decades ago and millions of them are in service now, 7 million to be exact. Some of those kids or teenagers even volunteered for the army so how would you know it was all just basij?.

It worked? You call a bunch of kids getting mowed down "it working"?

That's sad, and so is your jingoism.

Sadly it did "work" in away. It freaked the Iraqis out alot some even abandoned their machine gun nest after mowing down hundreds to just see hundreds more ready to come.

I still think its a despicable tactic. Kids should never be used in that way. They are too young to make such choices and don't fully understand the consequences IMO.

For awhile it looked like Saddam was going to lose he even offered to make peace. The Ayatollah Khamenei wanted no part of the because he was on the verge of "exporting the revolution" like he publicly stated before the war. BTW that was seen as a threat by Saddam and alot of Iraqis even before the Iran-Iraq war.

Thats when the US stepped in to help Saddam out. The US was not going to allow Iran to "exporting revolution" into Iraq and then been in striking distance of Kuwait, Saudi arabia. Iran would then have been in control of mosy of the worlds oil.

With US help the tide turned against Iran and then Ayatollah Khamenei was ready for peace.

Could have something to do with why after Friday prayers in Terhan thousands chant "Death to America" for that last couple of decades