More crap: Arnold wins CA

Standing up fpr white people is one thing, NEO< you cross that line, however......

The fact is, minorities arent out to get white people, and no, they dont want to live off of govornment charity, but many have to because there really isnt much else for them to do. Thus, the major push amongst many minorites, seperate from mainstream politicans, is to work for more self sufficency, more training and regrouping of minority communities to get them self sufficent so they dont have to take handouts from "the man".

Thus, we are not supporting minorities, but certain entites are keeping them enslaved via govornment programs.

However, white people as the majority of the country are #ing themselves over, period.

Dont blame minorites for the problems with white people and the problems they are having, blame other white people who have been doing the same thing to thier own people for thousands of years.

It is not the Mexicans fault when he hops the border illegally to come here and get a plentiful job mowing lawns, its the lazy white mans fault who is too lazy to mow his own lawn, and too cheap to hire legal labor that is at fault.

White people have created thier own problems, and thus, need to focus on the white people who have #ed them over instead of blaming it on the minorities, who have been exploited by the same group of white people who have exploited thier own.

Too far left gets no play. Period.
Everyone is basically conservative, in the pure sense of the word.

The 'left' of the spectrum, Kucinich/Sharpton/Braun, have no possible chance. But all else, come on, don't even attempt to paint these folks as hard left. The talking points you often reference do make the attempt, but it's absent the actual review of their voting record or policy positions. Making allotments for social programs and the environment first/cop.concerns second is not Leftist.
The rage is misguided if it's done indiscrimantely - there are very capable people in the Dem presidential pool to lead the country back to stature.

Does the two party gig suck azz? You're damn skippy.


BUT

When faced with viable alternatives of leadership, and continuous disaster under/by Bush, you have to stop thinking ideology and start thinking tactically.
We'll have a country, in some semblance of US glory under a Dem prez in 2004, one that can be moved toward revamp and third or fourth party choices.
Think that possibility is there in 2008 after another Bush term?

On another topic

As to trying to paint the White Man as overshadowed & under represented in the acknowledgement of the building of American......

You can't be f**king serious?

Originally posted by Colonel
Skadi,

Well, I'm sorry but your State deserves what it gets.

"Arnold Unplugged - It's hasta la vista to $9 billion if the Governator is selected."

www.gregpalast.com...

[Edited on 8-10-2003 by Colonel]

How about the dept Cali had under Davis that was equal to all the other states combined!!!!!!

You know what? You all deserve Arnie.

Enron et al. stole 9 billion dollars from you and then send their front man, Arnie. And you vote for him??? You all deserve this Enron-connected, woman groping, violence propogating, Nazi loving thug.

And now that Arnie mania is waning, does the press focus on what's important? Bush and his criminals? The state of the nation? Iraq? Nooooo.

They focus on Kobe.

Skadi,

the white man needs to wake up and that is part of my job.

I do agree with you about the minorities though, they are not out to kill us all unless they need to,

they just want everything we have.

i was so shocked when i heard that this morning. i was just simply shocked at the fact that he is republican and won, but also because of the fact that he doesnt necessarily have any experience to do that sort of thing. i thought the same thing though, we are screwed.

Originally posted by THENEO
Skadi,

the white man needs to wake up and that is part of my job.

I do agree with you about the minorities though, they are not out to kill us all unless they need to,

they just want everything we have.

So, you grab your hood, white sheet, and confederate flag and go in the street by yourself and tell us all about how the white man needs to wake up.

Furthermore, the only people I know that took everything from others in history and present day are whites.

[Edited on 8-10-2003 by Colonel]

ya at my high school NONE could beleav WHAT had happend..

it seams that the kids are smarter then some of the adults here

my mom fell for his bull #, my dad did not

You're dad is a smart man.

Originally posted by mirrorsparadise
i was so shocked when i heard that this morning. i was just simply shocked at the fact that he is republican and won, but also because of the fact that he doesnt necessarily have any experience to do that sort of thing. i thought the same thing though, we are screwed.

what's wrong with republicans? and, to me, when a 'politician' wins everyone jeers because he's part of the problem - when a noobie wins 'they don't have experience�. I guess anytime you run for office you�re damned either way. I think Arnold won in Cali because he�s not a politician, that is my hope anyway, and I hope that�s message is understood by the actual politicians.

An interesting quote from Demolition Man (1993)...

Stallone: "Hold it! The Schwarzenegger Library?"
Bullock: "Yes, the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library. Wasn't he an actor?"
Stallone: "Stop! He was President?"
Bullock: "Yes. Even though he was not born in this country, his popularity at the time caused the 61st Amendment�"

Dum Da Dum Dum DUM!!!

Just thought I'd get that out there...

Gala

No, NEO, they dont want to take everything YOU have. They simply want the chance to be able to have things that you have, they dont want your crap, they want to be afforded the same opportunity to have them. And if they work the same, why the hell not?

White people need to wake the # up are realize its not the minorities #ing them over, its thier own elites that have been #ing them over. Blaming minorities for your problems lifts the blame from where it belongs, which is the rich whites, as well as the overeducated self rightous super libby whites. White people are causing problems for white people, not minorities causing our problems.

And interesting your reference to "the white man". Hm.......so white women dont count, I take it?

Bout Time, Im not saying whites are underepresented as a whole in politics, but on the left, most dems dont really go up to bat for them, for the average white person. The republicans are for rich whites, or super conservative whites, ultra christian whites, ect. The democrats cater to the upper liberal whites, the college brain zombies, ect. But for the lower working class whites, there really sint much out there, the demopcrats pretty much alientate them, with a few examples of some pretty good dems who were very pro everyone working class, most of the dems I have seen tax the # out of working class and middle class people mto pay for poor drug addicts and riff raff programs.

Its just the problem is that good democrats arent getting thrown up there in the forefront to tack on the republiklansmen like they should. Most of the democrats they got out there are New Englanders, which pretty much kills thier sellability to the rest of the country. A good democrat is one who doesnt come from snooty elite families, that was part of Clintons charm, is that he came from relatively humble origins, and was a southerner.

The reason I state this, is we have people like Freemason/Neo here who believe minorites are otu to get them and take everything they have. This mentality is fostered because there reallya rent too many guys out there with voting records who show a strong defense of the working/lower/middle class people. Those people, they think, hm.democrats only care about minorities, cuz thats all we see them lobbying for...hmmmm...whose gonna represent us? Hmmm...maybe I should become a reubliklansmen instead, cuz they seem to care(even tho they dont).

Hence the problems. NEO is an example of what I am observing as a growing number of white people who are getting disillusioned with getting taxed to fund dubious social programs and such. I am hering it more and more from people, a trend I am finding...disturbing.

And lets look at California. The fact that they elected.....the Terminator as govornor....what do you think that tells you? Californians aint stupid. They may be wierdos anf freaks of nature, but stupid they are not. But they are getting mighty tired of alot of overblown liberal oppresive policies that have put them in the poorhouse.

Do we want a country with a growing number of....NEOs? I perish the thought, but thats whats happening.

If the democrats would learn from the Claifornia elections and learn period what they need to do to get back in power, and get back in favor, they have a shot, otherwise, more and more people are gonna run to the conservative fold. Thats NOT what we want.

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

i agree

most if not all the major people in power are rich crackers that dont know what work is...

I think everybody should have the same chanses in this country, after all isnt that what we *stand* for?

i also think they should stop asking for your skin cololor/sex.... realy???? whats the point??!!

the hard working laboreres should get a HUG payrase AFTER ALL there the ones doing the WORK with out them we would all have NOTHING AT ALL


PS:TheNeo, i have noticed alot of people attacking you laty! hang in there boddy!

everyone has a right to there opionen and for stating the reasons they do,

but noone has the right to ATTACK another person, but contruted critisizem should be allowed but only to a point

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf


Bout Time, Im not saying whites are underepresented as a whole in politics, but on the left, most dems dont really go up to bat for them, for the average white person. The republicans are for rich whites, or super conservative whites, ultra christian whites, ect. The democrats cater to the upper liberal whites, the college brain zombies, ect. But for the lower working class whites, there really sint much out there, the demopcrats pretty much alientate them, with a few examples of some pretty good dems who were very pro everyone working class, most of the dems I have seen tax the # out of working class and middle class people mto pay for poor drug addicts and riff raff programs.

What about the Unions. Dems represent them, which includes the white lower-middle class worker which the repugnants set out to destroy daily. What about them?

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
The fact is, minorities arent out to get white people, and no, they dont want to live off of govornment charity, but many have to because there really isnt much else for them to do.

"no they don't want to live off of government charity

That is sooo funnny! Of course they do. At least where I live. If you are white you get NOTHING unless of course you lie and say your man left you and you can't find a job and nobody else can help you and blah blah blah. And still the government won't help. There was a time when our ends weren't meeting and I reached out for help and that is the reaction I got. I was the ONLY white person in that line. Everyone else walked away from the nice hispanic lady at the counter with a smile on their face and I was DENIED. They come to California with their hands out.

"no they don't want to live off of government charity
That is sooo funnny! Of course they do. At least where I live. If you are white you get NOTHING unless of course you lie and say your man left you and you can't find a job and nobody else can help you and blah blah blah. And still the government won't help. There was a time when our ends weren't meeting and I reached out for help and that is the reaction I got. I was the ONLY white person in that line. Everyone else walked away from the nice hispanic lady at the counter with a smile on their face and I was DENIED. They come to California with their hands out.

That is why CA is known as the "freeloading state" .
Give us your lazy or illegal and we will take care of them at your expense.

As usual, nothing but garbage being strewn all over the lawn, Colonel.

As usual, you name-call, make allegations, such as saying Arnold is unfit, claim that both he and the Republican party are Nazis; you are a real work of art.

What you don't even bother to mention is that Gray Davis proved himself to be unfit by single-handedly destroying the 8th largest economy to which you referred.

It is clear and evident that the people of California are sick and tired of being the Democratic party's social petrey dish.
Think about it, Gray was not the only Democrat involved in this, yet the people made it abundantly clear that they would rather have a former body building, pseudo actor who uses Englishes as a second language, yet is a fiscal Republican, than to continue down your Democratic road to economic ruination.

Typical, though. They do not agree with your socialistic view of economics, so they are the rubes and the country is doomed. That is such the typical liberal elitist tone of arrogance, I'm not surprised you'd use it.

Originally posted by Colonel
You're dad is a smart man.

Why, because he agrees with you? That measuring device needs calibration!

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

What you don't even bother to mention is that Gray Davis proved himself to be unfit by single-handedly destroying the 8th largest economy to which you referred.

As usual, the repugnats just can't STOP LYING. Davis had to suffer under the ineptitude of the former republican administration of Pete Wilson when he signed electricity deregualtion into law which brought on the resulting chaos in California....which of course, the repugnants blame Davis for.

When will you all stop lying?????????

Originally posted by nyeff

"no they don't want to live off of government charity

That is sooo funnny! Of course they do. At least where I live. If you are white you get NOTHING unless of course you lie and say your man left you and you can't find a job and nobody else can help you and blah blah blah. And still the government won't help. There was a time when our ends weren't meeting and I reached out for help and that is the reaction I got. I was the ONLY white person in that line. Everyone else walked away from the nice hispanic lady at the counter with a smile on their face and I was DENIED. They come to California with their hands out.

That is why CA is known as the "freeloading state" .
Give us your lazy or illegal and we will take care of them at your expense.

And people have the nerve to call me a racist??????