Planet X hits earth again 2012

reply to post by ironjello


For one, "Planet x" wouldn't Hit the earth. If the so called planet
was infact real then it's orbit would pass through our solar system,
obviously the magnetic forces would clearly mean that it would effect
Earth's orbit itself, + rotation. Aka resulting in a pole #, climate change
and massive earthquakes. They do, have proof that there is an "extra
planet" or some odd planet beyond our solar system that appears to be
getting closer. But obviously no one knows if all these predictions will
actually happen. No one is telling anyone to believe it, altough i do have to
say that if these predictions are true, 2012 is only 5 years away..and
there sure isn't any signs that the world will be ending any time soon.

I thought Planet X was a doworfed Star?

I'm just wondering, given the speculated mass and orbit of this "planet", would our sun even have enough influence on it, to keep it coming back our way every 3600 years?
Also, most of the diagrams I have seen of it's suspected orbit, shows it orbiting directly through the asteroid belt for most of it's travel when near earth. If this is true, wouldn't we see large gaps about 5-8 times the size of the earth in the belt or possibly see no belt at all since planet x is said to have passed by us several times throughout earths history?
In the same type of diagrams it also shows the planets orbit VERY close to Mars.. wouldn't mars show signs of this almost collision that we can draw from?

So, not sure I'm buying into it yet but it's worth some more investigation I guess..

Originally posted by neformore Quite simply iIf it had happened before, we wouldn't be here to talk about it.

Unless we observed it from Noah's Space Ark

See as a viewer of this site, i find some things on here quite funny or scary. But one thing i realized about Planet X and 2012, well, lets just say if numbers were never found, i think this would never be a problem. Here is a quote i want to express, "With great power comes great responsibility" from Spiderman the movie. Whoever invented numbers was a genius of course. But whoever inverted the numbers into time where individuals' lives are used, is the true evil. If one never looked at time, how would life be? When you were a kid and you had soo much fun to whatever you were doing and you never looked at the time, was it really happiness? And then when you found out that it was time to go home cause it was 7 o'clock, weren't you mad? Now when we grow, the numbers are important, dates on calendars are marked and you had to go to work at a specific time. Why? To be civilized? No, it can't be...

What i mean about numbers is that, it's really hurting us. We need numbers of course to count and to measure things but is time necessarily right to measure? Business is a disease and wanting more money is the outcome. What is it that you are going to do with a lot of money...nothing...save it and pass it on to your kids?? No, like the quote "with great power comes great responsibility" is true and with money, you should make a effort and help out. We all as individuals have a certain power. Whether thats to lie perfectly, or love unconditionally, or to kill professionally or even to teach, we all have a gift. Money was created to be used as credit, not as a weapon or to be ranked to see whose richer. Time is crucial and if anything is to be blamed, blame the numbers. Without it, i bet all this "end of the world" crap would never happen...

AS 2012 rolls and comes 2013, something will happen but nothing bad. It's going to be a "Final of theories" age where whatever we see or hear, cannot be bought 100% true. Laughter, happiness is all the things we will GET after long years of war and etc. Nothing in front of us can be true. Science (alike religion) is now used to create business, to trick people in that they have some kind of disorder/disease and you'll need "this" medication to treat it, maybe cure it. Meanwhile we don't know what it consists or does to us in the future...

No thats all begotten now. In a time where money was the power, and where maybe an another great depression about to unravel soon. We, as the young aged will discover "self-enlightenment". History is written and 10% is true, but what about the other 90% where it should explain the past individual's motive, thoughts, passion, decisions and secrets? Like the bible and our school's textbooks, all alike, what is more understanding, examples like in fiction and nonfiction books or truth based on facts? Our kids want fantasies and stories, not a way to save mankind. That's why we lost in touch with God, the one who does it all..I say lets do nothing and see what power he has, then we'll change heads here whether he exist or not. Man was never suppose to save mankind and science wasn't the way to help him either. Life is suppose to be a mystery and death is the only truth to it!

That's why i look forward, to the near of 2012, where panic may occur and governments are gonna try to send every soldier and themselves to space or w/e expecting this to happen...then it will be just us, the people who make this world the better place and laugh through all the things said in the past....or maybe its "IT" where this planet will come here and do w/e it's suppose to do and end it all. If thats true...wow how beautiful it must be, something MORE majestic than anything else!

It's a win-win situation...

I am very paraniod because of this maybe someone shoulde curse this planet x or something

[edit on 6-1-2008 by goodboy447]

Is this thing gonna hit us?

I am withTefstar-x. I have no doubt that there is a planet out there but am yet to be convinced that it is enroute to our part of the solar system. Would love to see it happen though.
Also, based to the subject of the thread "Planet x to HIT earth AGAIN" suggests that there has been a collision in the past. If that were the case we would simply not be here according to the supposed size of the planet.

Originally posted by tefstar-x
reply to post by ironjelloThey do, have proof that there is an "extra
planet" or some odd planet beyond our solar system that appears to be
getting closer.

A whole bunch really... Need to update the text books But these are not beyond our system they are in it...

But obviously no one knows if all these predictions will
actually happen. No one is telling anyone to believe it, altough i do have to
say that if these predictions are true, 2012 is only 5 years away..and
there sure isn't any signs that the world will be ending any time soon.

Sitchin is telling but he has changed the date t0 2084 (or something like that)

If there was going to be such an event in 5 years we would see it already...
HOWEVER... Rumor has it that NASA is scrambling to get a scope up to look from the South Pole... as that is the direction the 'Dark Sun' is supposed to come at us from





[edit on 10-1-2008 by zorgon]

we only have 4 years to live? seroiusly this thing is going to hit us?

From all I've read on the subject, which isn't much, Planet X is a theory that has never been proven to exist. Well, except that it was supposed to blast us 5 years ago, but I guess it didn't. To the questions of where it is, I remember the common answer being that it's "hiding behind the sun" so we can't detect it. Is that still the one-size-fits-all answer going around?

If it really is beyond Pluto, but close enough to screw with it, gravitationally, and it's supposed to blast us again (like it did in 2003) in 5 years, I would think that it would be well closer to us than Pluto is right now. It's a slow-moving planet it would seem.

Let me do some math here, which I'm also no expert in. Let's assume that it's a few AU's past Pluto right now, and it will hit us in 5 years. Doesn't that mean that we would get buzzed by this thing every 10 years?

Fine, maybe "just beyond Pluto" is not the back 9 turn for this planet. I've also read that it takes 3,600 years to complete an orbit. Ok, then same thing, if it takes 5 years to get here from Pluto, that would mean that at it's furthest point from us, roughly 1,800 years ago, it would have been somewhere in the neighborhood of 14,400 AU's away. Or, 1.3 trillion miles away. Or, 360 times further from us than Pluto is. I'm no orbital mechanics wizard, but can the Sun's gravity really hang onto an object that far away?

All in all, I can't say that it's not out there somewhere. There's billions of Planet X's out there. I just don't see anything that tells me we're doomed yet.

first off, i can't believe this thread has survived this many years. quite impressive.

hoffman, i am so happy someone else remembers that this mysterious planet x/nibiru was supposed to have wiped us all out in 2003. i remember that clearly as i even did an oral report on it way back in high school (i graduated in 2002) - hey i had to choose something and it was quite entertaining. and that's all this planet x garbage is - entertaining. there's no real substance behind any of it. nothing legitimate anyway.

btw hoffman, i actually do have a B.S. in physics - i know you said you weren't a math/astrophysics pro but your point was clear.

you are correct when you said the sun couldn't really exert a gravitational pull on an object that far away - not a sizable one anyway, all objects technically exert a force on all others in the universe at all times. so technically, hoffman, i am exerting a a force on you right now and vice versa. that's right, come to poppa baby. hahah j/k.

there is one thing you either aren't aware of or forgot regarding the planet x hypothesis. the "theory" (i use the term loosely here) is that the sun actually has a sister planet of roughly equal mass which also happens to be undetectable according to the claims. this sister planet is what slingshots planet x back toward us every 3600 years. it swings around the sister planet back to us and when it gets here our sun slings it back, like an eternal game of Pong. believers claim that the Earth happens to be in the path of planet x during this particular orbit and would thus wipe out both bodies and hence, all life on Earth.

there is however, no scientific evidence to prove the existence of either planet x or the sun's mysterious and undetectable sister planet. o wait, i forgot - it's undetectable so of course we haven't found it. duh, what WAS i thinking. with all the technological advances that have occurred in astrophysics as well as the upcoming enhancements due to be made to the Hubble this year, we would have definitely have been able to locate a planet/body sizable enough to wipe out all life on Earth. the fact that there is "prophecy" associated with planet x makes it even more laughable. previous posts on this thread point out the disinformation regarding the sumerians and the myan calendar.

here is a harvard article on the subject:
adsbit.harvard.edu...

Is this thing gonna hit us?

This "thing" doesn't exist, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. If a large planet had a 3600 year orbit that took it through the asteroid belt, it would cause absolute havoc. There would be ample evidence of its last passage through the inner Solar System, due to gravitational perturbations. The fact that no such evidence exists basically lays this ridiculous myth to rest.

Originally posted by Mogget

Is this thing gonna hit us?

This "thing" doesn't exist, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. If a large planet had a 3600 year orbit that took it through the asteroid belt, it would cause absolute havoc. There would be ample evidence of its last passage through the inner Solar System, due to gravitational perturbations. The fact that no such evidence exists basically lays this ridiculous myth to rest.

NASA said it was a hoax on the internet.

Originally posted by goodboy447
NASA said it was a hoax on the internet.

Now there is a good reliable source for you...



But my NASA source says this....

"An estimated $300-million mission, the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer, or "Wise," has been in the planning stages for the past eight years. It is scheduled to launch into an Earth orbit in late 2009. It will spend seven months collecting data.

Such extensive sky coverage means the mission will find and catalogue all sorts of celestial eccentrics. These may include brown dwarfs, or failed stars, that are closer to Earth than Proxima Centauri, the nearest star other than our sun. Brown dwarfs are balls of gas that begin life like stars but lack the mass to ignite their internal fires and light up like normal stars. They do, however, produce warm infrared glows that Wise will be able to see.

"Brown dwarfs are lurking all around us," said Dr. Peter Eisenhardt, project scientist for the mission at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "We believe there are more brown dwarfs than stars in the nearby universe, but we haven't found many of them because they are too faint in visible light."

Wright, Eisenhardt and other scientists recently identified brown dwarfs using NASA's infrared Spitzer Space Telescope. Wise will vastly expand the search, uncovering those brown dwarfs closest to Earth that might make ideal targets for future planet-hunting missions. Recent Spitzer findings support the notion that planets might orbit brown dwarfs."

Reference: JPL Press Release "NASA SAYS: 'BUILD IT AND INFRARED SURPRISES WILL COME'"

wise.ssl.berkeley.edu...

So since Nibiru has been said to be the "Dark Star" namely a brown Dwarf....

Seems they are planning a lot of tax dollars to hunt this 'hoax'





[edit on 15-1-2008 by zorgon]

That's because they aren't going to be hunting for a specific object. They want to be able to detect low mass objects that radiate far more in the infrared than the visible light part of the spectrum. If they discover a brown dwarf (or large planet) orbiting the Sun at a considerable distance, then that would be exciting news. Nevertheless, they aren't going to find a large object on a 3600 year orbit that passes through the asteroid belt, for the reasons that I have already provided.

Please stop associating NASA with ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Originally posted by Mogget
Please stop associating NASA with ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Your kidding right? If we did that we would have to close half the topics on ATS

reply to post by Murcielago


You took the words right outta my head.

reply to post by Zaphod58


"Would you rather be an ignorant happy pig, or Socrates ?"

(thats in no way ment to affend, just a great qoute that i think is nessacery, i aint calling Zaphod or any one else a pig )

Fox

[edit on 22-1-2008 by ProTo Fire Fox]

Originally posted by Lambo Rider
I thought Planet X was a doworfed Star?

I too have heard that its a dwarf star hence NASA looking for Brown Dwarfs in our vicinity.... and Nibiru has been called the "Dark Star"