Why homosexuality is not genetic

Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by Jay-morris

 

I do not understand what you are trying to say using the word spelled CLEAVER.

Why are you talking about a hatchet that butchers use?


cleav·er (klvr)
n.
1. A heavy, broad-bladed knife or hatchet used especially by butchers.
2. Archaeology A bifacial core tool flaked to produce a straight sharp edge at one end.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Are you trying to be clever?

LOL my God! you are one of these insecure people who makes themselves feel better by trying to be clever. The internet, and the world is full of them

Do you feel better now. Do you feel more superier now.

Complete joke!

Do I feel superior.

No Jay I just LOVE the fact that I learned how to spell.
LOVE the fact that I know what a dictionary is all about.
LOVE the reality that I put myself through college.
LOVE the fact that I feel sad that you either cannot or will not spell words.

Of course we could always say that poor spelling is caused by genes or heredity, or even caused by pencils.

It it caused by laziness and lack of effort to communicate.

Originally posted by slugger9787
Do I feel superior.

No Jay I just LOVE the fact that I learned how to spell.
LOVE the fact that I know what a dictionary is all about.
LOVE the reality that I put myself through college.
LOVE the fact that I feel sad that you either cannot or will not spell words.

Of course we could always say that poor spelling is caused by genes or heredity, or even caused by pencils.

It it caused by laziness and lack of effort to communicate.

No, its called trying to write on your iphone while working. You do have an arragonce about you. I have a good job, as a web designer, i am also an artist, i have also travelled asia and lived in China. Does that make me a better person than you? No, it does not.

You start slagging me off, just because of a spelling mistake! how sad is that!

I see people making spelling mistakes on here all the time, but i don't feel the need to use that as an excuse to show my ego, and how intelligent i am. In my opinion, people who do this are very insecure within themselves. They want people to think they are intelligent, but sorry, i don't buy it.

reply to post by slugger9787

Ohh...athat explains why you are wrong. It seems you have a very low understanding of what kind of emotions actually exist.

Here is a list of all human emotions.

Affection
Anger
Annoyance
Angst
Apathy
Anxiety
Contempt
Curiosity
Depression
Desire
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Jealousy
Loathing
Love
Lust
Misery
Pity
Pride
Rage
Regret
Remorse
Sadness
Shame
Suffering
Surprise
Wonder
Worry

I'm was not talking of an urge.

reply to post by Sinter Klaas


There is really know point because what we have here is a person trying to feed his ego. I know the type of person he is now, and you can't argue with people like this. They think they are always right. He does not have a clue about human emotions. Maybe he is a robot!

Anyone watched a gay man's mannerisms? I'm not talking about the uber camp brigade - but there is something, just something about them and you know. So I tend the think gayness in men is not a 'choice'. And there are many many gay men who have suppressed that part of themselves to live straight lives.
But I believe that in women it's different. Because all the gay women I know turned against men after sexual abuse from men. But again, hardly a proper survey!
That said, honestly who cares?
But people WILL go on muddling two things. Not liking the idea of homosexuality, not being comfortable with it, is not being 'homophobic' in the sense that word is usually used. And it is certainly not the same as 'discriminating against'.

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[edit on 31-8-2010 by slugger9787]

Originally posted by starchild10
Anyone watched a gay man's mannerisms? I'm not talking about the uber camp brigade - but there is something, just something about them and you know. So I tend the think gayness in men is not a 'choice'.

Stereotyping is not good.

Yes there are some gays that are obvious. However - - the gays I worked with stated - - there is no such thing as "gaydar" - - just like straight people its a 50/50 guess with non-obvious gays. Unless the person in question makes or gives some kind of signal.

reply to post by slugger9787


I actually feel sorry for you. I think you have never even experienced true love. You said you are a homosexual male, but you choose to be with women.

It make sense that it is a choice for you. Have you ever had a homosexual relationship ?

reply to post by slugger9787


Slugger, are you like this because of your religious beliefs?

reply to post by Jay-morris


I am this way due to the choices I made/make in my life.
I use my freedom of choice and free will, my volutional power
To think, emote and act..
I use them in concert and integrity.

I am created of the following aspects or components. They are illustrated in the model of concentric circles, with the center being my essence, the core, the primary animation of my being and the remainder of me and my components.

While the center is energy is in its purest most pristine form, as it ripples out from the center through me it initiates activities. It becomes more and more "contaminated" as it tends toget preoccupied with satisfying my physical being and not my spiritual being.

Center is
Spiritual
Volutional
Emotional
Intellectual
Actual
Physical

Answers your inquiry!

[edit on 31-8-2010 by slugger9787]

reply to post by slugger9787


So you choose to deny yourself physical and spiritual pleasure because of your inner spirit or something ?

I don't quite follow you, but this last answer from you tells me that I could be wrong about you.

Not giving in on the little emotions issue yet tho.

reply to post by Sinter Klaas


What toughts and actions that I employ that result in pysical pleasure sometimes also produce spiritual pain.

What thoughts and actions that I employ that result in spiritual pleasure sometimes also produce physical pain.

For example, I was in college many years ago and was a 4.0 student in the math, science, chemictry departments. I, during the middle of my college years went to a treatment center and was treated for addiction disease. I got out of treatment and due to the spiritual sxperiences I began having, changed my major from the hard sciences to sociology, psychology and counseling.

Now had I remained a hard science student I would be very well off, and comfortable, and my physical pleasure would be sated, at the exxpense of my spiritual growth and development.

Instead, I got degreed in soft sciences, and barely make enough to afford car, house, food for me and kids, used clothing, used bikes for kids.

I have been counseling people with the disease of addiction for thirty five years, and have seen thousands of miracles, on first of all the spiritual realm of peoples lives, and then that miracle ripples out from their spirit, to their emotions, to their thoughts, then actions, and even their physical health improves.

Is me helping people have that spiritual experince worth the difference that I chose thirty five yers ago between the hard sciences and the soft sciences?

That is something I will not ever know here, and I will know it in the hereafter.

reply to post by American Mad Man


Identical twins are not in fact 100% identical. There are often very slight variations in their genetic makeup.

So the possibility does still exist, but does it really matter anyway? People are who they are. I wish people would worry more about their own lives than what everyone else is doing.

[edit on 31-8-2010 by DantesPeak]

Originally posted by DantesPeak
reply to post by American Mad Man

 

Identical twins are not in fact 100% identical. There are often very slight variations in their genetic makeup.

True.

I think they have different fingerprints & show up different in face scans.

reply to post by slugger9787


You are spiritual?

This is the sad thing about the human race. No matter how spiritual you say you are, or how religious you are, there always seems to be enough room for a bit of hate!

You throw out lines from the bible, as if its real or something, and not a fairytale! You talk like every gay person has anal sex, which is BS.

Thank God, or the devil! that i don't live my life like you do. What a wasted life.

You want to know how i go through life? The best way i can. My wife is Chinese, and i am English (white) and we both have had a bit of hate. Some people saying its wrong. They are just like you, just a different thing to hate about.

You will never admit this, and chances are you most prob don't see the problem you have.

From your posts, you come across as very arragont,ignorant, and a bit of a lost soul.

reply to post by Jay-morris


Your opinion of me is none of my business.
So arrogant, ignorant and a bit of a lost soul!

Without a doubt I have never heard that before.

So you got hate from family members who were against mixed marriage.

Your feelings and emotions were hurt, injured, and what do you have now? Buried emotions from the past.

What a waste of spiritual energy to be tied up in past emotions.

Resentments are the root of all spiritual maladies.

Whether that is unexpressed fear and afraid from some altered state of consciousness that happened in the veil between wakefulness and sleep when you were four years old, or emotions generated by insensitive comments of friends and family about marriage partner.





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LOL yes I have.

[edit on 31-8-2010 by slugger9787]

reply to post by slugger9787


My family and friends are fine with me and my wife. I have had it from random people, and a few people on this site, and other forums.

I don't let it get to me, and i never have. Why should i waste my time and emotions on these people?

There is too much hate in the world. People hating this and that. Colour,sexuality,sex etc this world is full of hate. Maybe thats just the way we are. So many people trying to be intelligent, but, at the end of the day, they are not.

I don't think we will be intelligent, or able to live in peace, as a race, for a very long time.

You see, if there was more people like me, then this world would be a much better place. But the world is filled with people like you, hating this and that, while hiding behind your religon, or your spiritual path



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reply to post by slugger9787


I think I understand you better now.

As another poster said, you come a cross as an arrogant, negative person.
Maybe that is just a facade. I don't know you so...

I also think you are lost with a big part of your history telling you to do one thing, while you feel different, you choose not to act. ( Please remember that I don't know you and I could be completely wrong )
I think you live by a set of morals from a different time, from people that had and have different feelings about how things are supposed to be...Morals are set by society and are not a given fact. They change.

I do think it's great you have been helping people for the last 35 years.
IMO that is not a waste of time.
Will you regret your choice ? Yes probably, but what if isn't any good. You live in the present. Now is the time to make an effort and enjoy it.

I know for sure that after your death in some sort of afterlife, where they tell you 'Fool, this was your only shot to experience life.' Then you
will regret you hold back. You say a result can be spiritual pain ? Why ? How ? Everything you are and what you think and even feel has been a result of your past. There is absolutely no way to know the best way to live. What I do know is that love is something good, therefore I think it is wrong to deny people love, only because the find it somewhere else.

Please forgive me for any false assumption. I intend well and I'm on a role.

I still do not agree with you on the choice and emotion issue. I think you can understand that I feel different. My experience tells me that any emotion is a result and I know for sure,the result is not always because of personal thinking, it does get influenced by your past. You simply act as you have learned from the people around you and your experience.

I also know that when you deny yourself to deny your feelings that it will become stressful.

Reply to Post by Jay-Morris

This is the sad thing about the human race. No matter how spiritual you say you are, or how religious you are, there always seems to be enough room for a bit of hate!

IMO this is because hate is part of being human.