Seven Fires - William Commanda

Originally posted by samspin
We are all in grave danger, including all animals, and even the land. We may not have much time left.

Well said, samspin and thank you for reading.

Unfortunately, there is much truth in what you say above. We may NOT have much time left if we don't start working together to solve many of the problems we have created for ourselves. Looking up into the sky is one way to see the warning signs, but there are many more as well. A quick peek into the Fragile Earth forum will show many other signs.

GWC, in his speech a week ago, said to the people gathered there:

"When the last tree has been cut down, the last river has been dammed or polluted, the last fish has been caught and the last animal (he stopped there, but I know what he was going to say)-- only then do you realize that money can't be eaten."

It's a variation on a much used quote, but the point comes across very well.

Think about the disappearing birds, fish and animals in the world today and know, that if they fail, we can't be far behind.

I suspect that you know what is going on in the sky above. What the whites are doing is extremely alarming and if we don't take action to defend ourselves from what they are doing, we will end up as expired. The so called "CHEMTRAILS CONSPIRACY" is a fact we have to deal with. Most people don't know whats going on in the sky. Worst yet, they tend to believe we are going through global warming, which is not correct. The only reason the climate has warmed up over the past 25 years, is because of what they are doing in the sky. We are slowly sliding into an ice age. I am extremely bothered by the Seven Fires Prophesy, because it is clearly emanating great deception. Those who are weary of deception will avoid the Seven Fires Prophesy. I don't trust anything that deals with the subject of prophesy. I place my future, and the future of all Native Americans, on Cuba's path. I'm not stupid anymore and know we have a horrible problem occurring now. It is over GREED.

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You are rightfully entitled to your opinion on the Seven Fires Prophecy, samspin.

On the term 'whites', I have a major problem.

In my opinion, there can be no distinction between people based on skin colour. The problems concerning climate Change are the result of many factors, one of them perhaps being the activity of the human race and has nothing to do with the colour of ones skin. The blame, if warranted, is world-wide and not confined to 'whites'.

To make such distinctions is based more on cultural values than on anything else. The cooking fires of India and China bear as much responsibility as the Industrial Revolution and the current global dependency on oil.

your getting hostile bear and thats not good. how dare you adopt the anishinabe word for bear and then defend a race that is in the progress of exterminating native americans. they are up there spraying their cowardly weapons in order to exterminate native americans. screw their cowardly pass over. the poor cowards.

Originally posted by samspin
your getting hostile bear and thats not good.

I believe the opposite is true

how dare you adopt the anishinabe word for bear

Why, exactly, is this unacceptable to you?

and then defend a race that is in the progress of exterminating native americans.

I'm not defending anyone, but I refuse to recognize any group based solely on skin colour. As I stated before, there is only the human race

Please read from William Commanda's own website:

Elder William Commanda believes that it is of crucial importance at this time that all the children of Mother Earth learn to come together with one heart, one mind, one love and one determination, and create the fitting legacy for all our children and our children’s children:

A Circle of All Nations: A Culture of Peace

www.angelfire.com...

THAT is what I believe and will strive towards. To point fingers and assign blame to others is wrong... we must blame ourselves and try to change our ways.

they are up there spraying their cowardly weapons in order to exterminate native americans. screw their cowardly pass over. the poor cowards.

Chemtrails?

bear, your not getting the message. cayce predicted that atlantis would rise again in the 1960s. cuba rose to world power in the 1960s when they invaded africa. cuba is the island mentioned in the story of atlantis. cuba must be controlled by the anishinabek. the anishinabek are the atlanteans. prophesy is real and to learn where prophesy originated, all we need to do is read the old testament chapter of malachi, to learn about elijah and time travel. we can put the so called "passover" event mentioned in exodus, the 40 day and 40 night worldwide rainstorm event mentioned in genesis, and what they are currently doing in the sky now, together and claim that all three events are the same one. we know who those first born people and fist born animals are. if you don't take what they (the whites) are doing in the sky, you going to die. there are no if's and but's about it.

samspin again. read the story of atlantis. research "chem trails conspiracy" at google. i have and i don't take kindly to what some people are claiming. after the long intervals (anywhere from 2 to 8 hours) those streams from heaven (chemical trails) come pouring down like a pestlence (plague), which eventually make humans and animals sick, as well as ruin the land. if you don't take what they (the whites) are doing in the sky seriously, your going to die. i don't care if your native american, asian, black or white, if you don't take what they (the whites) are doing in the sky seriously, your going to die. i am looking out for all races. you can't be so ignorant to what is going on. i didn't find out about those chemtrails until a couple of years ago. it has taken some time but i now realize we are all, except a few who now live underground, are in grave danger.

Originally posted by samspin
i am looking out for all races.

You're not getting it either, samspin. There is only 1 race. The human race.

I refuse to acknowledge otherwise.

This thread is about bringing together all the people and cultures in the world to work towards global peace. Whatever the challenge, whether it is chemtrails, greed or even natural disasters, we need to co-operate in order to survive.

The world can no longer afford war.

Edgar Cayce has made many prophecies and there are plenty of threads about him here on ATS, but I have never heard anything either from William Commanda nor the people who are part of the Circle of All Nations which comments on the sleeping prophet.

I'm not going to get into Edgar Cayce other that to say his predictions are worth looking into (if you can find them online).

We do agree, though... we are in a dangerous time, faced with a single choice: war and destruction or peace and a bright future.

bear, you are white. leave me alone. i'm tired of dealing with the negativity. screw your thoughts centered on brotherhood. its all a bunch of bull. it is absolutely degrading to have to deal with the whites. it is absolutely degrading. that time machine fell into the wrong hands. non whites are paying for it.

Originally posted by samspin
bear, you are white

No, I'm HUMAN.

leave me alone

I promise I will.

i'm tired of dealing with the negativity

I'm sure everyone is.

screw your thoughts centered on brotherhood. its all a bunch of bull.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you believe that brotherhood is bull, then so be it. I'll no longer debate the notion with you.

Peace.

it is absolutely degrading to have to deal with the whites

I'm sure that is the basis of all racism; feeling degraded dealing with those 'others'.

it is absolutely degrading.

Yes, I heard you the first time.

that time machine fell into the wrong hands. non whites are paying for it.

Not sure what you mean by that, but you are entitled to that opinion.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the topic of the Seven Fires prophecy belt, William Commanda (the current holder of that belt) and the concepts held by the Circle of All Nations.

Race

While the word race is now widely used in everyday language, it is of recent origin. It is not to be confused with the term "racial discrimination," which focuses on behaviour, nor with the concept of ethnocentrism (the belief that ones own ethnic group is superior to others). While racism focuses on the biological differences among humans, prejudice can be linked to social or cultural aspects.

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Racialization

The Idea of Races

"Race" first appeared in the English language around the 17th century. North Americans began to use the term in their scientific writings by the late 18th century. Racism was developed and popularized by scientists in the 19th century, as they were regarded as purveyors of truth. At the time this ideology also explained political and economic conflicts in various parts of the world and legitimized the dominant role of British capitalism in the world economic system. Racism is universal and is evident in many different ethno-racial groups. It is not limited to white groups.
By the mid-19th century, there was general agreement that the worlds population could be divided into a variety of races: groups of people who shared similar phenotypical attributes, eg, skin colour, hair texture. This process of race categorization is referred to as racialization and is necessary for the emergence of racism as an ideology.

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Racism

An ideology based on the idea that humans can be separated into distinct racial groups and that these groups can be ranked on a hierarchy of intelligence, ability, morality etc.

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Racism and racial discrimination

RACISM AND RACIAL DISCRIMINATION are a clear affront to the fundamental truth that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights". Yet, six decades after the adoption of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) and four decades after the entry into force of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (1969), the principles of equality and non-discrimination are still far from a universal reality.

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There you have it.

Racism is just a false ideology and baseless concept born out of ignorance and a determination to dominate and control. Those responsible for putting this idiotic idea to the public mind in the first place are long dead and silent, yet their works live on to poison the lives of people everywhere.

There really are no such things as racial groups to divide the human race.

It's time to put such a backward idea behind us.

I recently received an email from William Commanda's office that he has been hospitalized.

My prayers go out to him.

Updates to follow.

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My thoughts and prayers goes out to him too. He is a fascinating man with a message that rings true on certain chords. May he go at his prescribed time and not before.

Update (from a personal email received this morning):

We are sorry to have to tell you that GWC is still not feeling very well and, further to consultation with his doctor, we have decided not to tax his strength further at this time, but rather to let him put his energies into his recovery.

My prayers are with him daily.

William Commanda is still recovering from his illness and, unfortunately, had to miss the ceremony for the Order of Canada. However, he did write a prayer which I received from his office in Kanata.

Here is the text:

Kwey Kwey:


My greetings to Your Excellencies, and Honoured Guests:


I send my deep regrets that I am not able to be with you all on this special occasion. At ninety five, your body does not always allow you do all the things you might wish.


When I look back at history over the years, I continue to be inspired by those who have contributed to strengthening respect for Mother Earth, promoting harmony amongst peoples and nations, and building a strong social safety net for all. These were the fundamental values of my ancestors, and I bring their dreams for a better world for all to this prayer at the May 2009 Order of Canada Investiture Ceremony. I am glad to be the face of the First Peoples amongst so many who serve society with passion and commitment. I offer my congratulations to them and wish them well in the effort to secure a better future for all. Our ancestral prophecies foretold the day when the all the peoples of the world would unite in Turtle Island to create such a world, and on a day like today, despite the darkness that surrounds us, I feel the strength of their conviction that a better world will emerge with the efforts of individuals.


Megwetch to you all for this hope. Merci. Ginawaydaganuc- We Are All Connected.


William Commanda

Thank you for sharing that masqua. And please send our good wishes to William.

...Just a note - I attended a Pandemic Planning meeting in January. The Northern Chief's Association sent a message from their Elders that the pandemic would start this spring - maybe May or June. Looks like they were right. Some people might wonder how they knew...

Megwetch,
sofi

From the OP (note bolded part):

Originally posted by masquaThe Seventh Prophet was younger than the others who had come and there was a glowing light from his eyes. He said that there would come a time when the waters had been so poisoned that the animals and plants that lived there would fall sick and begin to die. Much of the forests and prairies would be gone so the air would begin to lose the power of life. The way of the mind brought to the red, black, and yellow nation by the white nation would bring danger to the whole eart. In this time there will be a new people who will emerge from the clouds of illusion. They will retrace their steps to find the treasures that had been left by the trail. The stories that had been lost will be returned to them. They will remember the Original Instructions and find strength in the way of the circle. Their search will take them to the elders and the new people will ask for guidance. But many of the elders will have walked the Path of the Souls to the Star Web. Many elders will have forgotten their wisdom and they will not be able to help. Some of the elders will be silent because no one has asked them for their wisdom.

In the news today:

For generations, Blackfoot peoples would use sacred bundles in elaborate and secret ceremonies that tied the northern plains Indians to the land and instilled a sense of history and social order in the community.

But over the years, the sacred bundles made their way into the hands of museum curators and private collectors around the world, as native bands wrestled with the loss of the bison, modernization and dwindling homegrown interest in cultural traditions.

“Normally, those items are very precious, but with the economic times they were facing, there was starvation, and now it's a different generation that's embracing our culture and trying to make sure it doesn't happen again,” Rick Tailfeathers, a spokesman for the Blood Tribe in Southern Alberta, said.

Thursday night, aboriginal leaders will be joined by Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach, former premier and honorary chief Ralph Klein and others, in Lethbridge, to celebrate a unique legislative effort that has helped return more than 100 scared bundles containing 200 ceremonial objects to bands in the Blackfoot Confederacy.

www.theglobeandmail.com...

I accept that the above is only a beginning and not an ending. There is still a great deal of information to restore, both material and spiritual, but the tide seems to be turning. This weekend is the gathering at Maniwaki and I wish I could be there to discuss this positive development.

Thank you for posting this Masqua. Elder Williams' prediction was right and we have indeed taken the wrong road.

God has always blessed me with dreams to warn me of what was to come. On sept.10, 2001 I laid down and took a nap which I rarely did back then. I dreamed of men in blue hazmat suits who were holding my loved ones hostage. I regretted very much the killing of these men but there was no other way to rescue my family. You can imagine my shock when I saw pictures of Blue-suited FEMA workers in NYC soon after.

All things must have their season and the decisions have been made. The world of man may fall into ruin and chaos but nature will always be here to draw strength and sustenance from. Tell others do not live in fear, walk with peace in your heart and be glad for every sunrise. Do not look for beautiful places on earth, find the beauty wherever you are - it is there. It is in you. It is in us all. May we all find the good red road.

In relation to this post, it is a substantial step forward to read the thread Racism is for Ignorant Fools.

Knowing that almost 6 months ago I spoke on the topic of racialization in the presence of government officials, the media, a large assortment of writers, artists and most important of all, William Commanda, it is gratifying to know that this website truly denies the ignorance which racism fosters.

The thousands of people who visit here daily will have had the opportunity to reflect on the issue of racialization, what it forces upon people and what its fundamental purpose is.

There will always be those among us who believe that race is a scientific term and belief, once taken to heart, is difficult to change. I read today that someone was proud of their race. They could just as easily have stated that they were proud of their ethnic roots and I honestly would agree that it is right to feel that way.

My own roots are so tangled in different ethnic groups that it might be called a Gorgon Knot of genetics. To find a dominant gene, I would say it would be related to my Dutch heritage, but there is another variable obvious in my darker complexion and that can be traced back to the Canadian prairies and the Cree Nation.

Which am I proudest of? Between my gray/blue eyes sits a hawkish nose. Behind that set of features sits a brain who sees and appreciates the values of both cultures represented in those genetic traits. So, yes, I'm proud of my roots, no matter what their history in the past. Mistakes were made by both, wrongs never fully compensated for by either one. It doesn't pay to tarry too long on the past, though, because walking backwards into the future only causes us to stumble. We need to look to the future and the future of our children and on to their children as well.

We need to put such things as the Caste, Race and Class systems in the dumpster of history and move on. Divisions only divide. There is only right and wrong when it comes to a human being and nothing else really matters. Decide for yourselves which is is which and what needs to change in your own hearts for the betterment of future generations.

The prophecy of the Rainbow Warrior says it best:

There would come a time when the "keepers of the legend, stories, culture rituals, and myths, and all the Ancient Tribal Customs" would be needed to restore us to health. They would be mankinds’ key to survival, they were the "Warriors of the Rainbow". There would come a day of awakening when all the peoples of all the tribes would form a New World of Justice, Peace, Freedom and recognition of the Great Spirit.

The "Warriors of the Rainbow" would spread these messages and teach all peoples of the Earth or "Elohi". They would teach them how to live the "Way of the Great Spirit". They would tell them of how the world today has turned away from the Great Spirit and that is why our Earth is "Sick".

The "Warriors of the Rainbow" would show the peoples that this "Ancient Being" (the Great Spirit), is full of love and understanding, and teach them how to make the "Earth or Elohi" beautiful again. These Warriors would give the people principles or rules to follow to make their path right with the world. These principles would be those of the Ancient Tribes. The Warriors of the Rainbow would teach the people of the ancient practices of Unity, Love and Understanding. They would teach of Harmony among people in all four comers of the Earth.

Like the Ancient Tribes, they would teach the peoples how to pray to the Great Spirit with love that flows like the beautiful mountain stream, and flows along the path to the ocean of life. Once again, they would be able to feel joy in solitude and in councils. They would be free of petty jealousies and love all mankind as their brothers, regardless of color, race or religion. They would feel happiness enter their hearts, and become as one with the entire human race. Their hearts would be pure and radiate warmth, understanding and respect for all mankind, Nature, and the Great Spirit. They would once again fill their minds, hearts, souls, and deeds with the purest of thoughts. They would seek the beauty of the Master of Life - the Great Spirit! They would find strength and beauty in prayer and the solitudes of life.

home.earthlink.net...

sp

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Note:

The above post was sent to William Commanda so that he will know his teachings have made their impact on this member.

If people must call white, red, black and white yellow people four races, so be it.

I will never subscribe to the idea of races and will do everything I can, through research of its beginning in the minds of men and in the fallacy it has proven to be by the findings of the scientific community, to help finally put the false, divisive ideology into the dustbin where it belongs.

edit because I missed one of the four main groups identified by their skin colour



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