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Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
Frangible ammunition is not recommended for rifles is it not?
I was wondering, if I loaded a AK with Frangible ammunition, will it be a viable option for home defense or is the risk of over-penetration still to high?
I am also quite concerned with over penetration, ricochets and collateral damage.
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
I found some Frangible ammunition online for the AK.
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
I have an AK knockoff, and the thing is accurate as all get out. I've downed antelope at 300 yd. with the thing. You could drive nails with it under 100.
Originally posted by PaddyInf
Sorry about the slow reply.
Winchester, re. the P5C, yes I do mean the L102A1, and no, it's not an SAS weapon. It has been on issue as a PPW to members of the R.Irish Reg. for many years now. R.Irish are the only unit in the british army to use the P5C.
People seem to believe that it is SF because of the low numbers that were procured, and the fact that people selling them try to make them out as such to increase theie value.
Sorry to burst any bubbles.
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
www.reedsammo.com should have it, I found it on Gunbroker, I wont give the Auction's adress since I am not sure if that would violate the ToS...
The Frangible rounds are available Here:
[edit on 24/10/2005 by GrOuNd_ZeRo]
Originally posted by kozmo
You did say HOME DEFENSE right??? What is it with all of these people advocating the likes of an AK or some other obscene assault rifle? I would love to see someone effectively maneuver a clunky AK around the house when an intruder breaks in! It ain't gonna happen.
[edit on 25-10-2005 by kozmo]
Originally posted by kozmo
Hand guns??? Maybe. Most are impracticle for anything other than police use or concealed carry. They are inaccurate and in most cases unreliable. You also have the issue of over-penetration - yes it does exist and could end up killing a family member or a neighbor instead of an intruder or assailant. In most cases a 9mm will pass straight through someone without them even realizing that they had been hit. Other similar calibers simply lack any stopping power. Oh, so let's go to the hand-held artillery, like the 44 or the 45 or the .357... WHY??? You still have issues of inaccuracy and now you are going to add over-penetration and lack of recoverability to the issue.
Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness.
It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. The larger permanent cavity may lead
to faster blood loss. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified.
An issue that must be addressed is the fear of over penetration widely expressed on the part of law
enforcement. The concern that a bullet would pass through the body of a subject and injure an innocent
bystander is clearly exaggerated. Any review of law enforcement shootings will reveal that the great
majority of shots fired by officers do not hit any subjects at all. It should be obvious that the relatively
few shots that do hit a subject are not somehow more dangerous to bystanders than the shots that miss the
subject entirely.
Originally posted by Captain_Sensible
Please for the love of mint choc chip ice cream tell me you aren't serious about that redmage?